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02 Oct 2018, 09:45#2
Why are you Trumpanzees focussing on Julie Swetnick who is just a hanger-on and not really relevant? I think most people know her case is pretty flimsy, the real case Kavanaugh has to answer is Dr Ford's claim.
More importantly, why are Kavanaugh and all the Republican senators so opposed to an FBI investigation into Ford's claims?
Hmmm?
02 Oct 2018, 10:28#3
“I think most people know her case is pretty flimsy, the real case Kavanaugh has to answer is Dr Ford's claim.”
And Fords’ is rock solid? Read the report by the prosecutor who questioned her on behalf of the Senate Committee.
Just to make sure that I do not offend you by quoting Fox or Breitbart, I’ll use the CNN article.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/30/politics/rachel-mitchell-kavanaugh-ford/index.html
Outside counsel tells Republican senators 'reasonable prosecutor' would not bring Ford case against Kavanaugh
Washington (CNN) — In a memorandum to Republican senators, Rachel Mitchell says a "reasonable prosecutor" would not bring a case against Brett Kavanaugh based on Christine Blasey Ford's sexual assault allegation given the evidence presented to the Judiciary Committee.
But Mitchell, the sex crimes prosecutor hired by Senate Judiciary Committee Republicans who questioned Ford last Thursday, also notes, "A Senate confirmation hearing is not a trial, especially not a prosecution."
Mitchell cites inconsistencies in Ford's statements to the committee, The Washington Post, and her therapist about the alleged assault, which Ford alleges took place when she and Kavanaugh were in high school.
Mitchell also notes the lack of corroboration of Ford's account, including recalling details that could back her story.
Mitchell says Ford's account of her age at the time has varied, and raises questions about her recollection of some events, but noted her inability to remember details such as how she got to and from the party where the alleged assault occurred.
Mitchell, in the five-page memorandum, also raises concerns about what she calls inconsistencies in Ford's description of events. Those include how many people were at the party and whether she could hear a conversation between Kavanaugh, Mark Judge and other partygoers following the alleged assault, which both Kavanaugh and Judge -- whom Ford alleges was in the room during the incident -- deny ever took place.
Mitchell also says in the report, "the activities of congressional Democrats and Dr. Ford's attorneys likely affected Dr. Ford's account."[Pay attention to this part. It’s important. ]
Mitchell summarized her report for the committee.
"In the legal context, here is my bottom line: A 'he said, she said' case is incredibly difficult to prove. But this case is even weaker than that," she wrote. "Dr. Ford identified other witnesses to the event, and those witnesses either refuted her allegations or failed to corroborate them. For the reasons discussed below, I do not think that a reasonable prosecutor would bring this case based on the evidence before the Committee. Nor do I believe that this evidence is sufficient to satisfy the preponderance-of-the-evidence standard."
The last part is actually a nice way of saying that this was a load of crap from the word go.
02 Oct 2018, 11:47#5
Dershowitz is correct but what he has said is irrelevant. He is riding the perception wave and is talking about how everything is perceived.
If you want to take the perception route, you should realise that there will be no progress. You are effectively creating exactly the same scenario as the Russian Collusion BS. The Dems says that Trump has collided with the Russians and nothing will stop them from doing so. Not even the fact that there is no evidence. In the same way they will say that Kavanaugh is a mad drunk rapist, irrespective of what the evidence proves.
Everybody is doing the “decent” by being sorry for Ford about the hurt that all of this has caused. Me? I don’t give a shit about her show that she put up. And that was exactly what it was... a show. There is no need to feel sorry for her. She was and is complicit in this whole charade. That is also why the BS of this other woman, that Avanatti dragged in, is not irrelevant. It is all part of the bigger plot by the Dems. To stop the confirmation of Kavanaugh in order to get to Trump.
I’m no fan of Lindsey Graham. Not by any margin, but he was one hundred percent spot on when he attacked them.
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02 Oct 2018, 12:15#6
If it's all a load of crap then why are the Republicans so opposed to an FBI investigation?
Also, please note that Mitchell - the so-called "expert" that the Republicans called in - asked all the questions on behalf of the Republicans in the morning session of the Senate Judiciary Committee right up until Kavanaugh froze and couldn't answer the question about why the FBI couldn't investigate this matter.
The Republican senators had all yielded their time to Mitchell but after Kavanaugh froze like a deer in the headlights Senator Graham (Beeno's new hero) and several other Republican senators started shouting and screaming about what a disgrace and embarrassment it all was while Mitchell - their nominated speaker and representative - did not say another word during the entire session. Go look yourself and tell me if she utters another word.
That's because the Republicans knew they were beaten and tried to turn it into a pissing-for-distance contest as they loudly and aggressively demanded their right to sweep this entire matter of sexual misconduct under the floor without a proper investigation being conducted.
Again, if it's all the big load of crap you claim it is, why are the Republicans so vehemently opposed to a proper FBI investigation? It's the standard procedure in cases like this and there are precedents. Why is this different?
02 Oct 2018, 13:32#9
The Republicans opposed to the FBI investigations? What, where, when?
The Republicans are against the way in which they got to an FBI investigation at this point in time. They are opposed to the way the Democrats has gone about this.
I have looked at numerous pieces of footage and all of the interviewers keep on asking the Republicans about what if Kavanaugh has said something that was not 100% truthful during the hearings? Not a single one of them has said or asked anything about the substance of Ford’s claims. Not one.
One of them has even said/asked something to the order of: “We call for women to come forward. A woman came forward and we say she’s not credible. How can women come forward when they are told they are not credible?” Wellllll, yeah because the accuser needs to substantiate her/his claims. If they then prove not to be credible then HTF do you declare them credible and accept their allegations as fact?
It would be fun to be around if any of these clowns are ever falsely accused of something as serious as sexual assault.
https://youtu.be/fWYrxT_hw_g
02 Oct 2018, 14:36#12
@Eenoorkoos. Hahaha. That must have been the lamest comeback I have seen in a long time. Context Ou Beesblaas, context. Grassley was responding to Dick(head) Durbin’s effort of throwing his weight around.
He, Durbin, was as ridiculous as the rest of the clowns who has thrown all logic out the window. A accused B of a crime. It is therefore up to A to provide evidence of the alledged crime. The burden is not on the accused to go to the authorities and order them to hold and investigation to charge him. WTF? What planet are you from?
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02 Oct 2018, 14:41#13
Prepare for the new normal...guilty until proven innocent.
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02 Oct 2018, 14:54#14
So Ceradyne asks "what, where, when?" and I point him to a clip that shows EXACTLY what, where and when and now the poor dear is reduced to throwing insults and claiming that my comeback is lame!
Ceradyne, I can actually picture your very red face when you realised your argument had been torn to shreds . . . it must have looked exactly like Kavanaugh's face when he realised he didn't have the answers or any more room to wriggle and start sputtering and whimpering instead (see minute 5:20 on that clip).
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
What planet am I from? I'm from the real world, planet Earth is where I'm from. Thankfully I'm not from the bigoted, redneck, narrow-minded and entitled fairytale world that you, Beeno and your fellow Trumpanzees live in. Perhaps we should think of a name for your little Trumpanzee world . . . how about planet Milaki?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
02 Oct 2018, 15:37#15
Here is a clue for you. I watched that hearing so I knew what you were referring to and I also knew the context. I did not even need to watch the clip that you quoted to know that.
I say again. You are ignoring the entire context. The Republicans had no obligation to ask for further investigations and Trump was under no obligation to do that either. Despite Sen Grassley’s remarks, the Republicans have also not objected to tye FBI investigation.
They are pissed off at how it was arrived at as well as the timing of the entire circus. My guess, though, is that the Dems, and Feinstein in particular, have a lot of reasons to be pretty damn nervous at the moment. They do not have a James Comey, McCabe, Strzock, etc around any longer, to suppress the forthcoming investigations into the Dems’ (mis)handling of this saga. That is why I quoted the footage above. Nobody, like Loretta Lynch, to declare an investigation a matter.
Remember that there are now a few more questions to be answered, thanks to the shyte way in which the Dems handled this.
There is the question of the GoFundm accounts that have been set up. There is one fund in excess of $200k for Ford’s “protection”. In addition there is also an account closing in on $600k to cover her legal costs. Buuuuut, wait a minute. During her testimony her lawyers said that they were doing this pro bono.
Then there is also the little matter of her not wanting to be exposed in the public eye because of this. Buuuuuut, wait a minute, she arranged for a polygraph test in August before the story broke.
Then there was the fact that she suddenly decided that she needed lawyers, something that she has never done before. She has after all testified how she had to be on the phone and how she was confused with all the arrangements to get lawyers. Buuuuut, wait a minute. The Dems did that on her behalf. They got her the same lawyers who Michael Cohen has been using. Yes, the same ones who set up his GoFundme accounts with hundreds of $ in it. That one.
Should I carry on or are you starting to smell that rat yet?
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02 Oct 2018, 15:55#16
Can anyone else hear that static? Sounds like more unintelligible garbage from Planet Milaki!
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02 Oct 2018, 19:46#19
Hahahaha!
That was actually pretty funny!
For the record, I don't like Kavanaugh's self-righteousness or his extremely aggressive attitude but I don't think he's a rapist or anything like that and this business of bringing up things he did when he was a teenager is disgraceful.
My problem with Kavanaugh is the FACT that he is the man Donald Trump nominated for the sole reason of protecting him and ending the perfectly legitimate investigation into Russian collusion in the 2016 election.
Not sure how many people know this but Kavanaugh did not appear on the first list of nominees for Supreme Court Justice or the second. Kavanaugh only emerged as a candidate AFTER the Mueller investigation was confirmed.
Bozo obviously sees Kavanaugh as a weak and easily-manipulated patsy who will buckle to his demands and exert influence on the Mueller findings if it ever becomes necessary. I don't think he'll make a particularly good Supreme Court judge as his dodgy temperament and obvious hostility towards women would normally disqualify him but hey, Bozo himself has an erratic and explosive temper and even the Trumpanzees have to concede that he has no respect for women . . . so hey, if a boorish and misogynistic liar like Bozo can become president, why not have a hard-drinking, flaky and very angry little man like Kavanaugh as a Supreme Court judge?
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02 Oct 2018, 21:43#23
"One thing is for sure, from the moment BK has been nominated, the Dems have been shitting their pants...I wonder why?"
Ummmmmm . . . because unlike you, they understand why Bozo wants to have a weak patsy as a SCOTUS?
03 Oct 2018, 10:18#27
Ooops.
Christine Blasey Ford ex-boyfriend says she helped friend prep for potential polygraph; Grassley sounds alarm
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/christine-blasey-ford-ex-boyfriend-says-she-helped-friend-prep-for-potential-polygraph-grassley-sounds-alarm
In a sworn declaration to the Senate Judiciary Committee released Tuesday, the ex-boyfriend of Christine Blasey Ford, the California professor accusing Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault, contradicts her testimony under oath last week that she had never helped anyone prepare for a polygraph examination.
The former boyfriend, whose name is redacted, also claims that Ford never voiced any fear of flying during their six-year relationship, and seemingly had no problem living in a small apartment with one door -- apparently contradicting her claims that she could not testify promptly in D.C. due to a fear of flying, as well as her suggestion that her memories of Kavanuagh's alleged assault prompted her to feel unsafe without a second door.
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03 Oct 2018, 10:29#28
As I said before, I don't agree with bringing up all this stuff from so long ago so no need to lecture me on whether Ford has a case or not or whether what she's doing is ethical . . . but I do hope her case sticks because Kavanaugh looks like a nasty piece of work and I think he was only nominated because Bozo sees him as a weak puppet who he can manipulate in the future.
03 Oct 2018, 11:15#29
“... Kavanaugh looks like a nasty piece of work....”
Because......?
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03 Oct 2018, 11:26#30
Ummmm . . . did you see the video footage?
I saw a whiny, defensive and very angry little man unravelling and evading questions. What did you see?
03 Oct 2018, 11:50#33
“.....I saw a whiny, defensive and very angry little man unravelling and evading questions. What did you see?”
I saw someone who has been through hell and back because of a few politicians who do not have the guts to understand when they have been beaten and who are not prepared to accept defeat. Idiots who would stop at nothing and who would throw whoever they want under the bus to reach their objective.
Tell me. Do you agree with what the Dems have done to Ford in order to get to Trump through Kavanaugh? They cannot beat Trump on policy and delivery, so they play dirty and destroy whoever they need to destroy to get through.
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03 Oct 2018, 11:57#35
"Tell me. Do you agree with what the Dems have done to Ford in order to get to Trump through Kavanaugh?"
It's hard to answer that question because it makes an assumption that I don't necessarily agree with . . . that the Democrats "did something" to Ford in order to get to Trump.
Try rephrasing your question without loading it or making highly subjective assumptions and I'll try my best to answer honestly.
03 Oct 2018, 14:56#36
Geez. You are the last one to start preaching about assumptions.
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03 Oct 2018, 15:06#37
I might have added . . . or else just do the cyber equivalent of putting your thumbs in your ears, waggling your fingers and sticking your tongue out . . .
Noted.
03 Oct 2018, 15:30#38
Or I can tell you why I think that it is more than just assumptions Then again, I think you know pretty darn well what I will be saying and you know that you won’t have much, if anything, to counter that.
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03 Oct 2018, 15:41#39
Look Ceradyne, if you want to debate like an adult then by all means go ahead.
If you're just going to ask obviously loaded questions and sulk when you don't get answers or say things like "you know what I'm going to say and you know I'm right therefore I win", then rather don't waste my time.
It's up to you.
03 Oct 2018, 15:58#40
I do. That’s why I do not resort to immature memes to try and make a point. Now do tell me that you are not seriously thinking that the whole fiasco with Kavanaugh has nothing to do with the Dems trying to get to Trump.
Think about this. There is a point where Diane Feinstein tells Kavanaugh that “this is a job interview and not a trial”.
Yeah right. A job interview where almost half of the interviewers have said, long before the interview even started, that they are going to vote against him, irrespective of what happens in the interview. Really?