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Democracy under attack.

Started by clevermike6 REPLIES501 VIEWS· 30 Aug 2019, 06:17
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Aug 2019, 06:17
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30 Aug 2019, 06:17#1

The ancient Greeks - realizing that the system can be abused by scoundrels - in fact said democracy is a poor form of Government and in their case the Government was in fact controlled by the educated.   In our time the situation was summarized by Stalin  when he said -  "Elections are important - but what is even more important is the people who count the votes".

The Obama Administration did believe in the same - even though they have defined it further,   Insofar as voting is concerned there has been court cases where decisions were handed down that states must clear up their roles.  In California there are about 5 million such cases that built up over the years and those are used to the full.   The facts is the guiding court case was from California - that is why I refer to that State.  The DP State Government used the system to its utmost,  Illegal drivers licenses are issued in the name of dead and missing voters - mostly to non-citizens and they then are allowed to vote.    There are at least 10 million  such cases nationwide and that is used to help the Democrats in elections.

However, what is more bothersome is the Obama Crowd's conduct in the 2016 election.   The Administration used  senior officials to try and swing the election by totally illegal means.   They  have had their handpicked assistants in the FBI, the CIA, the Justice Department, the State Department and the Secret Service and use them to produce reports that they would somehow pass on to the media to use in the anti-Trump attacks.   Ultimately it led to the appointment of Mueller as Special Council and the end result is that  -

*   there is a number of institutions now investigating what really happened and how the so-called Russian Hoax was  organized; and

*   the first report dealt with the actions of the erstwhile Head of the FBI - Comey - and even though I have not read the full report yet there are serious allegations proven in the report.

Comey did something terrible.   He had private discussions  with Trump after the election and made notes of what was discussed.   Whether these notes were a true reflection of what was discussed is another question.  He did not file his notes as official FBI documents and kept them at his home.   He afterwards gave the notes to his personal legal counsel who passed it on to the New York Times - apparently also instructed by Coney to do so,

Discussions with the President will always be SECRET and the fact that Trump never saw the notes and his discussions are routinely taped - could be a major problem for the future for Comey,   The question remains is Comey guilty of a criminal offence?   The way the notes on his discussions with the President ended up in the New York Times can be regarded as a beach of a number of laws and since the other investigations are in full swing still - it is likely that he may end up with a number of extremely serious charges.  So charging him would be delayed till further reports will be forthcoming.  

The question remains - how can the scheme to try and sabotage the election in 2016 be undertaken without the involvement of Obama, Kerry, Biden and the Clintons?                         

               

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
30 Aug 2019, 13:08
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30 Aug 2019, 13:08#2

Mike take a look at Lou Dobbs and Sean Hannity on You Tube - date will be 29 th August.

Ths whole demonrat/Deep State coup i s going to be blown wide open over the next months beginning September mid October.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Aug 2019, 06:56
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31 Aug 2019, 06:56#3

Beeno

I see CNN and MSNBC is trying to whitewash Coney's actions despite the report of the Inspector General.   Their comments are so vastly different from the findings of the IG that it seems as if they have the right to lie continuously and  that is what can be expected from them,  Instead of condemning transgressions, they claimed that Com ey is a patriot who tried to protect the country from that menace Trump.   Nothing new on that score.      

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
31 Aug 2019, 09:20
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31 Aug 2019, 09:20#4

Plain and simple. They have actively worked against a duly ellected president of the USA, because they did not like him, thought he was infit, whatever. They ignored the vote and actively worked to have him removed in an unlawful way...sedition...and they are still doing it.

And then there are still sheeple ignoring the obvious because they don't like Trump. 

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
31 Aug 2019, 09:49
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31 Aug 2019, 09:49#5
CNN and MSNBC are as thick as Comey anybody who backs him. The strange analogy is this. The Meuller report came out and explicitly said that neither Trump nor anybody on his campaigned ( or, in fact, any American citizen) colluded with the Russians. What does everybody on the left and their Ouma do? The all cry BS and Nadler and co ploughs on regardless and the lefties do the Hippy Hippy Shake. Now the one IG report comes out and says explicitly and exactly what Comey did do and he and all the lefties are convinced that he has been exonerated because the IG did not charge him. How many farking times do they have to be told that the IG does not have the power to charge anybody? They only investigate what has happened and reflect their findings in a report. That’s it. The Meuller report found that Trump DID NOT collude/conspire. The IG report found that Comey did lie and leak official information and he did it deliberately and meticulously.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
31 Aug 2019, 10:37
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31 Aug 2019, 10:37#6

This kinda BS that red pilled me years ago. Couldn't believe my eyes when I saw how some things were being reported, twisted beyond recognition. And when you start digging, you see it's been going on for a very long time.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Sept 2019, 10:21
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01 Sept 2019, 10:21#7

The fact is that Obama did take lessons from our ex-unlamented President Zuma.   Easy - put .agents in charge of major judicial institutions - as well as the Treasury and use them against his opponents and cover up dirt of opposing people.    I would call that crooked as hell.

The Clinton family is regarded by many Americans as a crime syndicate and a substantial number of their associates/business partners were murdered or committed suicide (?) over the years.   The murderers were never found.  A recent suicide (?) case was Jeffrey Epstein - dear Bill loved them young - after all he is married to the Witch of Washington - as a TV commentator called Hilary Clinton once.

Obama said before the election in 2016 that there is no chance of a Trump victory and he must have been vastly disappointed - the dirt his "assistants" spread did not stick and could have very nasty consequences in future,    

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