Democratic Party in real trouble

Things are not looking good for them in the latest Ukraine saga and it is getting wrote by the day.   So lets look at what they came up with in the case:-*    First of all the CIA recently changed the requirement from whistleblowers from having first hand information so as to allow for hearsay evidence being provided as legitimate - sometime after May 2019.  This was probably done for use in a new controversial move against Trump after the collapse of the Russian Hoax.

*    Then the story broke about the Trump telephone conversation with the President of Ukraine and the manufacture of a whistleblower report started,   The report was made by a lawyer used by Senator Schumer based on a "report" he received  from a whistleblower - who to this day nobody knows the identity of.  It is apparent that the so-called whistleblower report was drawn up in collaboration with the DP leadership cadres - wjo knows exactly what was in the report.

*    The problem with that was that when the DP insisted on a report from the whistleblower be heard by the House the report should not have been with them already - but Schiff made remarks that indicated he did know what was in the whistleblower report,

*    When the Whitehouse made the transcript of the telephone call available a new story had to be concocted to the effect that the recording of the telephonic discussion was "caged" and the whistleblower than added a paragraph dealing with the "caging" to his report.  The change was made after the release of the transcript.  However, what then came out that all telephonic discussions are "caged" because of leaking of the telephonic discussions between Trump and the Australian Prime Minister and the President of Mexico in 2017.  It had zero to do with the Whistleblower report at all..

*     What really happened was that Trump never threatened the President of Ukraine about defense aid at all.   The President of Ukraine himself stated that there were no threats made by Trump.   That was invented by the whistleblower as an allegation so as to represent a case of criminal misdemeanor,

*     The Ukrainian President brought up a problem Ukraine have with bribery and corruption involving US citizens and Trump responded by saying he is aware of the involvement of the Biden's in Ukraine and it sounded like very bad to him.  He then promised to work together with the Ukrainian Government to deal with the issue.   Th criminality not also deal with bribery and corruption - but also written threats to the Ukrainian Government as to financial assistance by the Biden and more recently by three Democratic Senators saying that if the Ukrainian Government does not co-operate with the Mueller investigation the financial assistance to Ukraine will cease.

*     As to money voted for assistance of the military equipment Trump held it up for two reasons namely, the use of money illegally through bribery and corruption and Trump's insistence that the EU also roved such assistance.   However, Senator Portman went to see President Trump before the telephone discussion took place about the issue and it was then decided to release the money.

*    The whole issue exposed the role of the Biden's in Ukraine.   It is only right that the President asked that a matter involving the previous Vice-President in potential bribery and corruption be fully investigated,  He would really neglect his duties not to do so,   Trump did not interfere in any elections process involving Biden - the DP is campaigning at present before their nomination process starting in  January 2020,

*    The problem  also that when Schiff chaired House Committee meeting - he totally misrepresented a series of things that was proven to be untrue and when confronted he said that what he did was a parody.  This is bound to land him in trouble legally.

The problem is that it is crunch-time for the DP.  There are a number of reports coming out that will expose real criminality on their part and that would really represent a major scandal.  So they had to do something to use as a lightning conductor,

Maaik, it looks like this backfired so badly, it might just have been a well worked out setup? Can that be? Surely n ot Stupid Bozo and his crowd?

Yep, the BS some people keep on swallowing for years without the penny ever dropping.  Amazing...never thought politics could be this entertaining, but it's getting better every day!

Rooinek 

Believe me this episode has all the makings of backfiring on the DP especially when the Barr Report and that of the crooking of the Clinton and Obama clique gets exposed and Biden is already on the slide.  The DP will find it very hard to survive after the 2020 election.  Socialism is a bad idea and will not work politically in the USA.

You are obviously free to what you think - but the fact is it spells disaster for the DP,    

DpDraad......spot on, could not have said it better myself.

 Is is possible to embellish a document when all of the members of congress have a copy of the original transcript and claim to be a honorable representative of the people.

Blatant lies......

That slim ball "Pencil Neck" should be held to account for his actions, taken behind the house of Congress and shot with a ball of Rooineks s..t.

Rooinek

It is 13 months before the 2020 election.   If the DP was so sure their candidate can beat Trump why would they not wait the 13 months and use the whistleblower story in their election campaign against him?  

The fact is that a lot of DP leadership structure members know -

*    they cannot beat Trump and like the Russian Hoax story, they are now trying to find another way of getting rid of Trump - which is bound to flop again;

*    Biden is dead wood already - if he was indeed innocent in this case why not sue Giulani for libel - he would not do so because he knows he cannot prove anything; and

*    they must try and pre-empt upcoming reports that would land some of the leaders in jail.

I am afraid that the whole scenario is going nowhere and the fact is the DP is in a panic,   if anybody is to be impeached they need to have a vote in the House to start proceedings and that vote was not held because they do not even trust their own members to support their impeachment drive.

Oaks the truth is all coming gushing out. 

Tucker Carlson showed a picture of Joe and Hunter golfing with a director of the corrupt Ukraine oil company. 

This lying rat quid pro quo Joe's said he never discussed Hunters business! Hunter said he did once and now we see the photo!

Hunter travels on Airforce 2 to China with dad and gets 1.5 billion dollars to invest. He has no investment (or oil and gas) experience. In fact he was a crack head kicked out of the Military!

You go to China and get 1.5 billion dollars from the Chinese government! As Giuliani said Joe sold the VP office to China. He looked the other way as China built those islands. We also saw the reports where Joe Biden was saying China is no threat.

Joe is toast and his going down will smack the demonrats hard. Of course Joe and Hunter had to be investigated. Trump was legally obligated to bring these crooks to justice. 

Listen Rooinek 

I like your rugby posts in the main - but any leader in the world will  have assistants with him  if he makes a call to any other leader.  Besides that the present people with Trump will negate all the BS the DP dreamed up about the call.  and what was said. 

Only a complete idiot will come up with the story above.   There is no way that any call can be switched off while talking.  The other leader will put the phone down when there is a break.

What is also applicable is that if the foreign leader asked for some info an assistant will check up on it and the talk will return to the subject when the info has been obtained and the issue wil l be returned to.  

I was at one stage attached to the Parliament office and set in on one such call   The DP is idiotic if they think they can get away with their allegations - the hearing will turn into a farce.  .