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Elections were held in Italy and Sweden the past week

Started by clevermike25 REPLIES657 VIEWS· 26 Sept 2022, 19:37
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Sept 2022, 19:37
#1
26 Sept 2022, 19:37#1

The results did not help the leftists and their allies and now suddenly = although a coalition Government in Italy will basically follow a centrist route - the leftists are doing their normal with screams about far-rights taking over Government,  

In a way the Italian one was a very bad result for the EU and also for NATO.   They are not going to get Italian Government support for intervention in Ukraine.         

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
26 Sept 2022, 20:22
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26 Sept 2022, 20:22#2
You are clearly delighted that this will make supporting Ukraine harder. Your hero Putin must also be happy. 

Anyone that supports Putin is twisted and backward
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AJHPro3,183 posts
26 Sept 2022, 21:27
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26 Sept 2022, 21:27#3

So then what is your excuse sharktwat.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
26 Sept 2022, 23:26
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26 Sept 2022, 23:26#4
The results did not help the leftists and their allies and now suddenly = although a coalition Government in Italy will basically follow a centrist route - the leftists are doing their normal with screams about far-rights taking over Government, 

Mike how are you so good at being wrong about every single topic you talk about. Surely going by the laws of average you have got to get something right some day!

They are not going to get Italian Government support for intervention in Ukraine.        

Who was talking about intervention in Ukraine?
Meloni is no fan of the EU, but she's expressed strong support to Ukraine several times as well as support of NATO.
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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
26 Sept 2022, 23:57
#5
26 Sept 2022, 23:57#5

Even a broken clock is right twice per day, but not DumbMike.

I am surprised that Farter is not supporting Putin like the other religious/Islamic nut jobs Beeno, DumbMike and the Russian Male Bot. The anti-Western, anti-Democratic brigade.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
27 Sept 2022, 03:29
#6
27 Sept 2022, 03:29#6

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/sep/26/john-oliver-jair-bolsonaro-january-6-brazil

yet another right-wing piece of shite.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Sept 2022, 06:19
#7
27 Sept 2022, 06:19#7

Well despitre the strong support the new Prime Minsister in italy expressed - the media is calling her an utra-rightist and all kinds of things as am ultra-rightist.    The fact is that the issue of Russian sanctions have caused havoc in inflation in Italy and she is not going to be able to suppport that in future.   

Stav

I may in your book be 100% wrong because in your book everything opposed to your own viewpoint is 100% wrong - but the biggest party in her coalition Government will be more interested in protection of their voters than in the international agenda of the extreme leftists and socialists.

Why did both Governments in Sweden and Italy lost the elections?    You say my interpretation is wrong - but you offer zero as a reason for the losses.    So come up and explain why it happened.            

It is a bad thing for the present regimes and a good thing for demcoracy when the people vote they did in both Swede and Italy for protection of human rights for all - not only for criminals like the case was especially in Sweden.    If the new Prime Minster in Italy supports the EU - why is it that the media damned her the way they did.   Why call her the most extremist rightist since WW 2 if your interpretation is true.    

Anybody opposing your statements are always wrong and in a recent case you had the funny one quoting a Guardian article to support your own interpretation.   It nearly got freaked out when seeing and reading it.   It ended  with me  LMAO.t.   The Guardian spreads  propaganda instead of real news and believing it is totally brainwashed. -  LMAO.       

The US midterm election is today six weeks away and what happened in these two elections is a bad thing for the Democrats with their open border and criminal supporting policies.    The latest scandal that erupted is that the Green Policies of the Biden Regime is actually formulated by a organization controlled by the Chinese Government.    Protection of criminals in the USA are done by District Attorneys whose elections has been funded by Soros.    

So crime is out of control and according to the Democrats setting free of criminals - even those accused of murder - on the same day after arrest with no bail requirements are rife.    The Police may as well not arrest criminals because they would be set free to continue their criminality not later than the next day.    Crime is totally out of control in the USA as a result and the media is totally silent about it and when political murder of opponents to the regime is committed the  murders and attempted murders criminals walk free,

The Biden Administrations spending spree that in 18 months sent the national debt soring from $23,5 trillion to S29,5 trillion in 18 months is causing inflation - but the Democrats call inflation being the  result of  Russia.

A day after the Biden idiot throw a Party celebrating the so-called Inflation Reduction Act - the inflation rose further since the Act will result in sending in Green energy in accrance with the advice from their Chinese-controlled advisors.    The country is in a recession and the stck market is collapsing - yet the Democrats one-party agenda using the FBI, the CIA and the media is in full swing,    

I think the Democrats are in serious trouble and now some Democrat candidates are saying  they do not support the extremist Biden policies and trying to distance themselves from it - it that is unlikely to work in their favor since they cannot be trusted and if elected and they will do what they did all-out in the past and support the leftist agenda like they did in the past.    

Like in 2020 the final act will be to sent the BLM and Antifa terrorists to riot again like they dd in  a desperate effort to frighten people to vote for their candidates.     Political murders and attempted murders of Republican Party supporters have already started and  is bound to get worse over the next six weeks.  

 Happy Idiots Day to all brainwashed Idiots on site.     LMAO  

                                 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Sept 2022, 07:26
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27 Sept 2022, 07:26#8

The problem is that anybody against the present leftwing and socialist governments is made out to be extreme Rightwing by the media - while the boot is actually on the other foot.    Anybody against the leftist agenda is not acceptable when they put their own countries and their voters  interests before the agendas  before the interests advocated by the globalists.

In Italy the situation was particularly poor as to inflation caused by sanctions against Russia and prices were skyrocketing.    The previous Italian Government did nothing about it and as is normal in the USA everything is blamed on Putin and nothing on their own misgovernance.    

In Sweden they had a similar problem as in the USA.    The Socialist Swedish Government had an Open Border Policy and was protecting criminality and acting against ordinary Swedes who insist on action against criminals.   Crime in Sweden was skyroceting and the previous Government was against the populace and for the criminals.   

Fact is in both cases it really had fuck-all to do with Putin and everything to do with policies that were extreme and against the interests of the voters and the people of the Countries concerned.

Most people in the world - bar some idiots on this site - are centrists wanting good governance -  not the BS the extreme liberals and socialists route io promote their own self-interests and not those of the people they were elected by.

The two election outcomes is not a good sign for the Biden Regime with its Chinese controlled agenda.    The FBI is trying to act like the Chinese Communist Regime rushing around to arrest people who oppose the present regime for so-called crimes - a recent case where an incident happen more than a year ago.    They turn up at homes in groups of 25 or more to arrest Government opponents - yet they do not act against Democrats who attack and destroy anti-Democratic Party Government centers and use destruction of equipment and attempted arson in such cases.    

One could expect such conduct now from a Government fearing for their own future as a result of their own reckless policies and now turn to Fascist and Communist methods to try and retain control in a police state environment.     The whole program of the Democrats is self-destructing that Party and extreme leftist policies are not acceptable to normal people in the USA.    

A loss of control by the Democrats of the Senate and the House in the election today 6 weeks away - will expose many scandals of the present Regime and they fear nothing more than that - while the US capitalist controlled media  is  going bananas about everything trying to scare votes to believe their jargon.

The Democrats used lies and deception concocted by themselves to undermine the Trump Presidency so you can accept that it will inevitably backfire on them when the truth is  used against them sending hundreds of crooks to jail and more getting fired because of criminal activities.  The FBI and Justice Department are going to suffer the most and after that the IRS private Democratic Party 87 000 army attached to the IRS will be dead and buried quickly.and action will follow against Democratic Party adherents undermining actions against criminals and criminal protection will be the next to go.    All Slainist style indioctrination in schools will be banned as well.   

I expect that like happened in 2020 riots by the BLM and Antifa terrorist subsidiaries will start soon in an effort to intimidate voters into believing that the Republcians cannot control the riots and murders and destruction of property committed during the riots and consequently not capable of Governing the USA.     The Democrats are bound to start riots again in the next few weeks.

                                                                            

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
27 Sept 2022, 07:37
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27 Sept 2022, 07:37#9

Well if the right is starting to gain ground again, the left have only themselves to blame with all this woke shit that only the elites and the millenials and gen-z that populate cities buy into.

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
27 Sept 2022, 08:39
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27 Sept 2022, 08:39#10

Actually, the Left is losing over immigration, especially Islamic immigration. These far-right people would never get in if it was not for the left being far to lax on allowing incompatible ideologies into the EU

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
27 Sept 2022, 09:10
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27 Sept 2022, 09:10#11

Unchecked immigration is part of the woke shit. The whole "diversity" ideal is a disaster. The more different standards, religions, ideologies, cultures you have to accommodate, the more conflict you'll get, the more you dilute the standards of your own nation to accommodate those who have no respect for it. South Africa prime example - check out SA towns before 1990, and check those same towns now in the diverse rainbow nation. Dumpsters, trash piles, third world rubbish almost without exception.

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
27 Sept 2022, 09:30
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27 Sept 2022, 09:30#12
True in Europe it is. In Africa it is more corruption selling visas or what ever is used
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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
27 Sept 2022, 10:40
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27 Sept 2022, 10:40#13

"Unchecked immigration is part of the woke shit. The whole "diversity" ideal is a disaster. The more different standards, religions, ideologies, cultures you have to accommodate, the more conflict you'll get, the more you dilute the standards of your own nation to accommodate those who have no respect for it. South Africa prime example - check out SA towns before 1990, and check those same towns now in the diverse rainbow nation. Dumpsters, trash piles, third world rubbish almost without exception"

Brilliant post Pakie... all 100% true

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Sept 2022, 11:06
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27 Sept 2022, 11:06#14

I think there are other issues in play as well.   Fact is that the Open Border issue is just one of many.   There are crime problems peaking as well - Sweden for instance has the highest crime rate in Europe and criminality in the USA is a massive problem.  Criminals should be  punished and not rewarded like the case in is in SWEDEN and the USA at present.

Another problem in the USA is that there is a leftist idea prevailing that family life be eliminated and parents should be excluded from any roles in families and in the raising of their children - it should eb the responsibility of bureaucrats to replace family life.

Then there is inflation and the reckless money-spending by Government - mostly on non-productive issues  causing inflation and the idea of some Democrat advisors that infl ation is what keep the US economy alive.      The more money is around the easier it is to settle past debts.   It is a crazy idea that is against any financial management concepts.

Lastly there are destruction of cultural value, destruction of the middle class and persistent attacks on freedom of speech and democratic principles that is a threat to Democracy and the USA Constitution with no real policies favoring the ordinary people.

            

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
27 Sept 2022, 11:14
#15
27 Sept 2022, 11:14#15

"Another problem in the USA is that there is a leftist idea prevailing that family life be eliminated and parents should be excluded from any roles in families and in the raising of their children - it should eb the responsibility of bureaucrats to replace family life."

Oh please Mike, what utter bollocks....... 


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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
27 Sept 2022, 12:19
#16
27 Sept 2022, 12:19#16
What is wrong with DumbMike? 

Anytime he expresses an opinion he says the fact is.... xyz.
He is a Nazi that is constantly running the EU down calling them socialist and communist...
Much like the Russian Male Bot. 
Bizarre given he was a government lackey from Apartheid, and then the ANC. 

The EU is one of the best places in the world. I am sure they could not care less to hear this former public official of Apartheid calling them socialist. 

The NP was pretty much a Communist regime. They have to take some of the blame for South Africa's current predicament. 
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
27 Sept 2022, 12:29
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27 Sept 2022, 12:29#17

Well said Pakie

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
27 Sept 2022, 12:46
#18
27 Sept 2022, 12:46#18

What is wrong with DumbMike? 

Nothing really if you think of him as a full-on Bore.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 Sept 2022, 13:35
#19
27 Sept 2022, 13:35#19

Great posts Mike. Yes Meloni has been a supporter of ukraine but doubtless her other two coalition partners will try and talk her around. she is a woman of good common sense so I am hopeful particularly as energy problems start to really bite in Italy.

Of course so predictably the far left Globalist Marxist press has tried to label her a fascist and worse. Meloni believes in God, family and country.  She believes in national sovereignty which to a Globalist is anathema. She is against the invasion of Italy by migrants. She is against the islamification of Italy. Now if that makes one a fascist in he eyes of these corrupt, lying treasonous leftist crazies then cunt me in!

The Populists/Nationalists are rising up very quickly as the Brothers of Italy party have shown. We have Sweden and Italy kicking out the Globalists. I feel confident Spain and the Netherlands ill follow as will France. macron has of course lost his parliamentary majority as has Trudeau's party and he to will get he boot next time around. In wee nz Jacinda Ardern has experienced a dramatic fall in popularity and this former Young Globalist leader will also soon be gone.

The November elections in the USA will see the GOP take back the House and senate despite large scale demonrat cheating. 

It is looking for now that the Globalist unipolar world is done.

Benedict Biden has shown the world what the Globalist are about. His attempts to destroy America and bring about the controlled economic collapse are there fr all to see.

But its also the disgusting filth they are pushing that is turning  people away. Our resident pervs must be so upset. Wokenism has done the patriotic right  great favour in the long run.

A huge blunder is these freaks coming after the children. With their porn in schools. trans mutilizations, sterilization of children via puberty blockers and drag queens they have awakened mama bear like nothing else could.

But it goes further. AG Merrick Garland called the parents going to school board meetings to object to the sexualization of children , teaching the hate filled doctrine of CRT, trans ideology etc DOMESTIC TERRORISTS. Consequently GOP's Youngkin won the Governorship of Virginia.

While nasty little marxist perverts like sharktwit hate the world and and its peoples sane people don't. Half bakes like blob brain and the extremely dense denise just about never get it right these days.

Did you see that house prices are 40% down in the Uk as Interest rates climb. These two factors will lead to millions losing their homes. So I must remind all the dumb dopes here that the WEF ( somebody tell that mampara sharktwit what these letters stand for and no sharktwit its not a conspiracy theory etc) Klaus schwanb and the boys stared = " by 2030 you will own nothing and be happy"

The Great Reset is what has caused the Ukraine war as one can see economic collpase coming to the EU along with banking failure and food crises.

Is there any hope? Well Sweden and Italy showed there was. A great uprising against tyrannical murderous Globalism is happening. The Great Awakening is accelerating like never before.

Can the Great Awakening trump the Great Reset is the question. It appears possible but not certain. Gullible fools like sharktwit, dense denise and blob brains will be marching off the cliff singing the praises of the Globalist. They are very far gone. Gullible souls incapable of thinking for themselves. Natural slaves of the Globalist elites.

Lastly oaks I can confirm the Russians have on the war. The 4 provinces will vote overwhelmingly to join Russia and in a about a months time the Russian parliament will incorporate them into Russia. Then if Ukraine tries to attack these 4 provinces Ukraine will be destroyed. Neither the EU or USA will send any significant number of troops to help.

As it further helps destroy America Biden will not defend Taiwan either. Joe is ow ned by China as the Hunter Biden laptop proved. 

Nobody knows the future but God but those are my assessments 




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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
27 Sept 2022, 13:45
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27 Sept 2022, 13:45#20
Islamic Beeno. Surprising that he does not want more fanatical Muslims as they share his religious far right (backward) ideology. 
The Bible and Koran were clearly once the same text. (Moses, Abraham etc are Westernised Muslim names). Allah is Arabic for God. So this is taking moral guidance from Jihad. 

Still, cheering on Putin? The mass murdering psychopath, but he is ok with you because he says he believes in God...Just like his corrupt Church Leader who says that all Russians who die in Ukraine will go to heaven... Grow up.... This Church leader looks like one of those evil despots from hundreds of years ago, when the clergy ran society. 

Russians are now saying Russia is a police Nazi state. Show me one liberal place in the world that is anything like that. Religious nutjobs like yourself may think a liberal place is oppresive, but that is just you. 

Countries that get far right governments will live to regret it. These are not people who are capable of uniting a country, only dividing it.
Look at the mess in America left by Trump. Someone who was never mentally fit enough to be president. 


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Sept 2022, 14:42
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27 Sept 2022, 14:42#21

SB

Not being a strong supporter of Trump I must ask nevertheless what mess Trump left in the USA,  Please be more explicit and explain in some detail if you do not mind - as well as providing sources to support your allegation. On receipt of that I will comment on your above posting.

               

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
27 Sept 2022, 15:35
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27 Sept 2022, 15:35#22
You and Beeno are backward people, so it is pointless explaining anything to you. 

For one, Trump claimed that he never lost the election which could end up causing a civil war in America. He is a real estate con man, and his behaviour is consistent with a sleazy salesperson with no morals. 

Anyone with any sense knows Trump lost the Democratic election.
He lost the white middle class. It is only the white religious working class that worships him. Basically below average IQ people that are just too stupid to understand what a useless bag of shit he is, or they are so lacking themselves in morals. 

A far-right or far-left president will lead to that conclusion where society gets divided.
Neither are presidential people or Democratic for that matter. 

When Al Gore lost he was man enough to accept defeat, albeit under very suspicious circumstances. He put the interests of America ahead of his own, unlike your master Trump.

A far left or far right person is more like a Hitler or a Putin, and that is what you America got in Trump.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
27 Sept 2022, 15:58
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27 Sept 2022, 15:58#23

Beenshit and his ilk are trying to return the world to the dark ages, where the church rules (as long as it his church) morons like him will not be happy unless anyone with a different belief is on the church's torture rack. Well pricks fuck off your religions days are done and good riddance to to it. The w orld is better off with such ignorance buried in the past

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 Sept 2022, 16:20
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27 Sept 2022, 16:20#24

BYE THE WAY PAKTER I TRUST YOU DO KNOW THAT MULTICULTURALISM, DIVERSITY IS OUR STRENGTH AND ALL THAT HOGWASH IS A DELIBERATE PLOY TO BRING CHOAS TO THE WEST. TO BREAK DOWN SOCIETY AND ALTER THEIR VALUES AND TRAMPLE THEIR TRADITIONS. 

Anyone refusing to abide by the take over of their country is labelled a nativist or a racist. wear these slurs as badges of honour and tell these underminers to go to hell.

But even far left Sweden has woken up to this Globalist plan to destroy their country. The new Swedish government like the New Italian government ill put a stop to this madness.

Every day I see the video clips of thousands of migrant coming into Britain. Those poor down trodden brain washed Brits are losing their country. They are being replaced.

The Globalist want a one world government were all the racist are mixed up and all the incomes are the same for the slave class. They actually want more Asians of the Chinese type as they say these people are more docile and easy to keep subdued. Of course these would be the fortunate ones left alive after the world's population has been reduced to 1 billion the figure touted by WEF head Klaus Schwab as being ideal. Uncle Bill Gates is more extreme ants only 500 million.

"Useless eaters" like sharktwit, blob brains and poor dense denise  are cannon fodder for the Globalists, turkeys singing for Christmas.

Its strange really the Davos elites have spelt out their plans but some dumbasses think it wise not to take them seriously.

Hopefully the Globalist tyrants will back off as they see the Populist/ Nationalist rising up to come after them. But I can assure you on biblical authority they will keep coming for us. Rev 13.



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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
27 Sept 2022, 16:32
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27 Sept 2022, 16:32#25

The only globalists are religious groups. They all want their religion to be the only religion allowed. (e.g. the Crusades). 
Somehow their religion is the right one, and everyone else is wrong. (Despite their being dozens of sects within one religion). 

Billionaire monopolies are mostly just about money, not some grand scheme to take over the world and replace white people. 

 Your Church minister is filling your brain with nonsense.
It is a technique called cognitive dissonance, a strategy of persuasion - like brainwashing. 

You need to "try" to be smarter. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 Sept 2022, 16:45
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27 Sept 2022, 16:45#26

Crusader halfwit. How is the world going today with the Globalist hard at work trying to cause an economic collapse. I would ask you how your pension funds are doing but I cant help thinking you are some down and out meths guzzling bozo live under a hedge and bathing once a decade! 

I guess you love all the tranny bit and are a little cross dresser come nightfall. Maybe you are trying tom persuade you niece to have surgery to remove her breast etc. Probably got mighty angry hen she wasn't aborted before birth. But of course you do do your bit by being a drag queen teaching children.

All the filth you so love old frot crust is not loved by the majority people and that includes people who are not Christian. Your views are a fringe minority a lunatic fringe.

Indeed from polls I have seen your own country are done with the Globalist Jacinda Adern. You only have to be half awake and slightly moral to know she has to go.

Now best just creep back under that unfortunate hedge and do try to increase the frequency of your bath you rotten old stinker!

Hahahahahhahahahahaha old frot crust punted 70 meters! 

Bye the way raging against God will no tend well for you. Satan clearly has a firm grip on you. The thing about this sort of thing is people deceived by Satan never know it.  These most unfortunate people become more and more confused and deluded and come to believe the Universe created itself out of nothing and such like nonsense. "Professing themselves to be wise they became fools" - Romans. OR "The FOOL has said in his heart there is no God".

Anyhow I am delighted at the Meloni win and the whole worldwide uprising against Globalism, wokeness  etc etc. Away with the trash. I have thought for some time that this backlash was rising.

I could go on to say the same about Covid and the deadly jab.  Gates, Fauci, CDC, FDA etc are sweating big, big time. I as so right about all that as well.

I could go on to say how right I was about massive election fraud. 

It pays to not be a dupe of the globalist owned media. 

Hahahahahahahahahahaha Beeno always miles and miles ahead of a frot old crust like this wee nz nutter and poor old blobbrain who has gone down, down doooown.






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