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Energy, Food and Fertilzer Crisis is very real.

Started by Seb86 REPLIES1,200 VIEWS· 03 Jun 2022, 11:19
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SebPro2,680 posts
03 Jun 2022, 11:19
#1
03 Jun 2022, 11:19#1

Reality is staring us full in the face, the war we cannot do anything about that.


The things that we should concern us because they will affect us all...energy, food and fertilizer but the ships of fools flotilla are full steam ahead into a mass of the largest icebergs imaginable.


The sanctions have had a classic boomerang effect.


There is quite a lot of intelligent information in factual reporting, comments and discussion in here and no propaganda.


Hear what is actual.


https://www.rt.com/shows/news/556509-rtnews-june-03-09msk/

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Jun 2022, 11:55
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03 Jun 2022, 11:55#2

The first ramifications were already felt last week - a ship transporting Diesel from Russia were a few days late and Eskom ran out of diesel and had to introduce loads-shedding.   Inflation i taking a nasty turn in SA - as bad as the effect in the USA.

Some elements in the USA are getting atrocious in the USA though - they an out of food and produce before the Ukraine Invasion  already and there gasoline prices doubled.     The latter was caused because Biden undermined the US Oil and Gas production through unbelievably stupid oil policy - which caused the USA to become an importer of oil again after being not importing oil anymore under Trump..    The war sent oil prices sky-rocketing and gas prices as well - since the USA is dependent on Russia for gas, oil and fertilizer imports  - the problems with the latter is going to have an extreme adverse effect 0on US agricultural produce this year.

The USA imported baby formula in the past to augment US supplies.  There apparently was a slight problem at the  main baby formula factory in the USA - while he Government take the rest of the produce to feed indigent and very poor families depending on free baby formula and  the large number of  indigent basis part of the illegal stream of migrants entering the USA  -  leaving virtually nothing for sale in shops in the USA.    The USA used to import the Baby Formula shortfall from Russia.

The Biden countermeasure is to import 308 000 boxes of baby formula from Australia - to be flown out on two plains next week.    How long would that supply last -  there are about 300 000 babies borne every month in the USA and with the major factory in the uSA not in production left the relieve would at most last for 7 days,   

There are fears that due to inflation and other adverse trends  in the USA economy the country may go into recession and that would be catastrophic for the whole world.          

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SebPro2,680 posts
03 Jun 2022, 12:23
#3
03 Jun 2022, 12:23#3

I was not being nasty by calling leaders in the west fools but they are indeed not only that but lunatics....more clowns than the biggest circuses in the world.

In USA they want to substitute lack of fertilizer with manure when they are cutting back the breeding of cattle and limiting them because they fart too much...LOL...causes global warming HAHAHA.

Solution to this would be an apparatus that fits over the steers arse hole to provide for the shortage of gas...HAHAHAHA...solves 2 problems....2 birds with one stone...too funny.

Then they want Russia, who has a bumper wheat harvest, and big fertilizer production  this year to supply the starving world when they block their ships and refuse to insure them....LMAO.

Even a five year old would be puzzled by this logic.

These are the people that liberal leaning governments put in charge...

In the meantime Russia is winning both on the swings and roundabouts.

The west is living in a cuckoos nest, wasting away, while China and Russia are moving forward with plenty in reserve.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
03 Jun 2022, 14:27
#4
03 Jun 2022, 14:27#4

It's easy, the russian slaves wake up, stick the murderer on a spike,withdraw from their illegal invasion of another country and get down on their bellies and ask for forgiveness (last bit should be easy for a nation that lives on their bellies )

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sharkbokCaptain23,202 posts
03 Jun 2022, 14:33
#5
03 Jun 2022, 14:33#5

Russians are pathetic people, that always allowed themselves to be ruled by dictators. (e.g Stalin, Putin). A stupid nation is can only sell oil and gas because they are too useless to do anything else. 

Russia is finished as a nation. They will turn in North Korea. It is likely that Putin will be assassinated eventually, by the cowardly Russians once their economy is finished. The EU needs to stop buying Russian energy, because when that happens Russia is over. 

They are just lucky they have nuclear bombs or the West and the mighty NATO would wipe their World war 2 army off the face of the earth. Our superior technology and professionalism would be no match for a Russian army that is struggling in Ukraine. 


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Jun 2022, 14:45
#6
03 Jun 2022, 14:45#6

SB and CF

Both write as if they are not in countries ruled by the WOKE culture - where the economy of their countries are in serious trouble and they may go into a recession soon.   

Unlike the barbaric west where the Woke Cukture is destroying the western civilization  and culture - the Russians are proud of their history and culture.   They are not about to submit to slavery the way the Woke culture is going and the latter will end up under a dictatorship under a World Government the two of you support.   

I know many Russians - I visited Russia after fall of the Communism and the people themselves caused the fall.   The West for years sustained the Communist Regime in Russia after funding the Russian Revolution in 1917 and they used the so-called Ccld War  with Russia for their own political purposes.   

The Russians are proud and patriotic people - not the jellyfish type now ruining the USA and the West.     

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
03 Jun 2022, 14:57
#7
03 Jun 2022, 14:57#7

So why have they been enslaved by their own dictators since the days of the Tzars or do you see that as a differform of slavery and the one they are currently under the yoke to is fine for them?

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
03 Jun 2022, 15:00
#8
03 Jun 2022, 15:00#8

I know one thing I would choose the west over Russian slavery any day but feel free to move there if it's such a wonderful dictatorship or is north Korea more to your liking. No woke culture there at all so you should be as happy as pig in shit working your way to the grave for 30 lashes and a bowl of rice a day

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
03 Jun 2022, 15:18
#9
03 Jun 2022, 15:18#9

So just a question what exactly is western culture supposed to be like.

Let me guess it has to be exactly how you want it to be and fuck anyone else with a different view. No wonder you want dictators to take control (but only if they align with your views) 

For your information democracy is for everyone to live a free life and live as they see fit as long it doesn't take away from everyone else's rights. 

I don't understand why people like you think they can dictate to other people how they live.

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sharkbokCaptain23,202 posts
03 Jun 2022, 16:08
#10
03 Jun 2022, 16:08#10
Jesus was woke with Democratic values, but the false Christians cant relate to this. They are authoritarian in nature and are out of place in the 21st century. 

The rednecks have a holier than thou attitude that somehow God is on their side and their dull backward way of life is morally right. They brainwash themselves into thinking their own opinion is that of God. 
The people in the West that hate the West are mostly religious simpletons, and these are the ones that support Putin. 
Who cares about history in comparison to the present. Russia is a gas station, and the West needs to end energy purchases from Russia to destroy its economy. 

If one Russian boot touches NATO territory we shall see how woke the West is. No one is any match for the might of NATO. 
Democracy has always beaten authoritarianism because we have allies.
Authoritarian countries struggle to work together because it is just a matter of time before one stabs the other in the back. It is not in their nature to share power, they want it all. 

"A scorpion was walking along the bank of a river, wondering how to get to the other side. Suddenly he saw a fox. He asked the fox to take him on his back across the river. The fox said, "No, if I do that you'll sting me, and I'll drown." The scorpion assured him, "If I did that, we'd both drown." So the fox thought about it and finally agreed. So the scorpion climbed up on his back, and the fox began to swim. But halfway across the river, the scorpion stung him. As the poison-filled his veins, the fox turned to the scorpion and said, "why did you do that? Now you'll drown too." "I couldn't help it," said the scorpion. "It's my nature.""


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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
03 Jun 2022, 16:31
#11
03 Jun 2022, 16:31#11

Why is it that the Christians are always the ones that are the opposite to what their Jesus supposidly preached.

The like of Moz is happy to brag about his wealth when that is the opposite to his Jesus teaching.

They are what I call selective Christians and only cherry pick the bits that suit them. Hypocrits the lot of them

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Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
03 Jun 2022, 16:54
#12
03 Jun 2022, 16:54#12

Jesus was not woke and he was not a socialist. This is new garbage being put out by the satanic fools ruling over you lot. Besides as a rock monkey you don't have any say in what is right or wrong you threw that idea out to start.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
03 Jun 2022, 16:58
#13
03 Jun 2022, 16:58#13

To right I did as I am opposed to genocide, slavery and the murder of the innocent.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
03 Jun 2022, 17:01
#14
03 Jun 2022, 17:01#14

And I an an Ape not a monkey.

I am not made of dirt like you morons believe, though you are probably made from a man's rib as I am sure you have a vagina as you winge worse than my ex , I will send you some tissues to wipe it if you like.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Jun 2022, 17:02
#15
03 Jun 2022, 17:02#15

1. Moz never said he is a Christian, but he gave credit to some of It's teachings.

2. He never bragged about his wealth...he mentioned it after being challenged...might have been a bit pompous or whatever, but he's got a right to be proud of a few things...some others brag just as much, just a bit salty because they have less to brag about...at least he's not looking down his nose at other people as much as a few others on here...the hypocrisy stinks to high heaven.



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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Jun 2022, 17:06
#16
03 Jun 2022, 17:06#16

"To right I did as I am opposed to genocide, slavery and the murder of the innocent."


Who's suppose to decide who's innocent and who's not?

I'm against those things too, but it seems that the definition of what's right and what's wrong is not the same for everyone. 

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Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
03 Jun 2022, 17:16
#17
03 Jun 2022, 17:16#17

You dont have a fucking clue mate. You don't like the murder of innocent people but you leftist fucknuts are okay with starting wars in the middle east and using ukraine for war with russia? don't care about abortions either. fucking flakes you lots are. stand for nothing at all just go with whatever your masters tell you. but hey like i said morals aren't for you lot still not smart enough to see that if your world view is empty and meaningless and the complete opposite of morality. so i guess it's no surprise that you lefties love evil things. liars, deceivers and fucking sociopaths. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Jun 2022, 17:18
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03 Jun 2022, 17:18#18

 

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
03 Jun 2022, 17:24
#19
03 Jun 2022, 17:24#19

And Christian morality is correct?

How would you like to be my slave ?

How about I send a bear or two around to kill your kids for making fun of bald people or exterminate woman and children for the supposid sins of others.

Anyone that gets their morals from the Bible is sick in the head.

I am sure none of you fools even read your fairy tale.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Jun 2022, 17:36
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03 Jun 2022, 17:36#20

 

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
03 Jun 2022, 18:11
#21
03 Jun 2022, 18:11#21

Never said I supported the war in the middle east, that was one of your nut bars that lied to everyone to wage that war.

The Ukraine is different that's a nut bar invading another country because he is a murderous dictator so no surprise you support the murder of innocent people.

It's fuck wits like you that cause the strife in this world because you hate anyone that doesn't  believe the same morally bankrupt nonsense as your narrow minded stupidity

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
03 Jun 2022, 18:13
#22
03 Jun 2022, 18:13#22

Thank fuck that the world is waking up to your hate filled murderous religion and people are finally standing up to you bullshit

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SebPro2,680 posts
03 Jun 2022, 18:32
#23
03 Jun 2022, 18:32#23

Two pansy woke cowards who don't read history who have never served in battle...why do you guys bother to answer these apologies of manhood .?

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
03 Jun 2022, 18:39
#24
03 Jun 2022, 18:39#24

Bwahahaha coming from the simpleton sprouting all the propaganda coming from the country of slaves. Keep swallowing that bs  you moron

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sharkbokCaptain23,202 posts
03 Jun 2022, 18:49
#25
03 Jun 2022, 18:49#25

Degenerates that don't have good within, so they have to rely on a kid's book to give them the motivation to be decent people.

They don't understand that being a good person is for the sake of it, not a bargaining tool to get admission into heaven... 

They believe faith is the way to get into heaven, but it does not matter how much faith a Muslim has, or a kid does in Santa Claus- it does not make it a fact. They fear scientists and specialists because they disprove their believes . 

Good luck with heaven, it is more likely you will join Putin in hell. (Wrapped in a pig skin to boot). 


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Jun 2022, 20:01
#26
03 Jun 2022, 20:01#26

You apparantly know nothing about Russian History and their achievements in music and fine arts as well as in saving Europe from the Mongol invasions and after 1861 there were NO slaves in Russia/    

Russians are people proud of their history and the fact that they created a situation where they were comprising of highly-cultured people.     

Culture comprises of what people in a society produce for the benefit of the broader community.    It includes scientific and medical development - but the major impact is on the fine arts and on traditions developed through many centuries.    

Culture also relates to the family life situation and the contributions families make in the confines of society as a whole.    Family life is in fact a key to communal  life.   That is in the main where Woke Culture is in operation - for them family life is a sin that must be destroyed.   

People who try to destruct culture   can never develop sound basic principles in life and become destructive themselves.       .       

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Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
03 Jun 2022, 21:26
#27
03 Jun 2022, 21:26#27

The west doesn't have culture they just have fucking savages that want to selfishly piss on everything in sight even to their own detriment. it isn't even a debate anymore the experiment of the big society and the all the progressive crap has failed spectacularly. its over. i just wish putin would have the balls to land the final nail and finish them off. 

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
03 Jun 2022, 21:37
#28
03 Jun 2022, 21:37#28
Great we have a moron that wants nuclear war to bring about some fantasy of end of days, don't worry about about the misery and death of billions of innocent men women and children he just wants billions of people to be murderedi can can only hope they lock you up and throw away the key for such a sick fuck.
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sharkbokCaptain23,202 posts
03 Jun 2022, 21:39
#29
03 Jun 2022, 21:39#29

uuum, you do realise that would mean you also would not exist?  When did they let you out of the penitentiary?

If one nuclear bomb is sent by Russia they will be wiped off the world map by NATO.
Putin could get some of the countries, but the submarines and other countries would obliterate Russia before they sent more nukes. The first few Western countries will be destroyed, but the others will end Russia.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
03 Jun 2022, 22:01
#30
03 Jun 2022, 22:01#30

He gets a hard on for death, spends his days in his moms basement having a wank over the thought of the death of billions. Its a frightening thought that this sick puppy isn't alone,

How can any sane human wish for nuclear war is beyond me

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SebPro2,680 posts
03 Jun 2022, 22:32
#31
03 Jun 2022, 22:32#31

Too stupid beyond belief...and dishonest...reveal where I remarked that.

Shark you are low class...you came from the biggest red-neck suburb in Durban, the Bluff and you have the audacity to shout about red necks in the Southern States...that you cannot help that but you are devoid of any manners...blue collar low-life...

Crusader you are vulgar and coarse and far gone...too many hang-ups and screws rattling loose in your head. Two birds of a feather.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Jun 2022, 23:14
#32
03 Jun 2022, 23:14#32

"Great we have a moron that wants nuclear war to bring about some fantasy of end of days, "

No, you fckn fool, he sees America and Britain are forcing Putin's hand and it frustates him so much, he's  voicing his worst nightmare...logic is not your thing né?

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sharkbokCaptain23,202 posts
03 Jun 2022, 23:21
#33
03 Jun 2022, 23:21#33

Draad pretends he does not support Putin, as does Dumb Mike. They support his war and his murder of innocent women and children, over 10 million people being forced to leave Ukraine, and destroying the "woke" Ukrainian Democratic culture under the banner of Nazism.

"Something" will be revealed to them, at "some" point in time, that will confirm Putin was actually the good guy all along, or "some" of the good guy?

The SubstantialFool worships the ground his God Putin walks on. He is the Russian bride of the year. He thinks he is a "cultured" person because he is religious... Ha, ha. 

The West forced Putin's hand... they made him invade a Democratic sovereign country. 

Ideology is subjective, so Democracy is the fairest system for everyone. 

As the Christians become the minority in the West, suddenly Democracy is not great. Now they support Putin, and they want to enforce their dying ideology on everyone. They are the moral defacto standard, their Arab religion of Moses and Abraham...

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MpowerPro5,061 posts
03 Jun 2022, 23:34
#34
03 Jun 2022, 23:34#34

The best would be to ask Red Rose what he meant....before crucifying the guy.

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SebPro2,680 posts
04 Jun 2022, 00:18
#35
04 Jun 2022, 00:18#35

The level of communication skills on this forum boggles the mind, suppositions and speculations of what people are ,what they believe etc., are thump sucked without evidence or understanding, contexts and narratives are skewed in derogatory terms to try and belittle and insult fellow posters.

The lack of honesty is mind blowing and concerning. It seems that hatred for opposing views is the order of the day.

These guys are sick.

Is not there enough of this out there, why bring it here.

If you don't understand what somebody means and is saying, have the manners to simply ask for clarity. A lot of it is emotional crap.

I must admit that at times people simply get under your skin. It is better to ignore.

I don't care if people differ, that's natural. But it is dishonest when people misquote you and make up things up you did not say or mean.

And personal things like your beliefs and family brought up in derogatory way on a keyboard is cowardly and low. I tell one thing some of the things said by certain posters here about my wife would give you an instant trip to hospital with a broken jaw and I'm very serious.

There's a limit to every thing.

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sharkbokCaptain23,202 posts
04 Jun 2022, 00:32
#36
04 Jun 2022, 00:32#36

Negativity? What? P eople outside this board who don't agree with your narrow dogmatic view of the world? You don't respect that ideology is subjective, somehow you know best.

Norms and values change over time, usually for the better. Just because you don't agree with changes, does not mean they are wrong. 


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Jun 2022, 01:53
#37
04 Jun 2022, 01:53#37

SB

You are  a typical Bluff washout.   You scream and lied about things like it is unbelievable.   I never supported ny war and that was stated repeatedly on site.   What I do not support was the undermining of the Minsk agreement by the USA.   

I said from the word go that negotiation - without the interference of the crooks in Washington is the solution of the problems in Ukraine.     Thre is ample evidence that the Ukraine uktra-nationalists wants to wipe out the Russian population livin in Eastern Ukraine and having lived thei for many centuries.   That was until 1953 never a part of Ukraine who never really was an independent country until  1991/     It compried as a result of a border dearcation by the Communists to ensure limitation of krainians to undermine the then USSR.

The Ukraine at independence because a nation with two distinct communities - the Ukrainians and the Russians   They lived in relative peace with each other until the 2014 coup against the then elected president funded and supported by the USA.   That coup was contra to the Ukraine constitution and caused the Crimea Parliament to hold a referendum and then with its 86^ Russian speaking majority voted 96% in favor of joining Russia and not remaining part of Ukraine.  The counter this fact the woke crazies called the election not free and fair, but that was against the scientific evaluation based on polls in 2014 and recently by Western independent pollsters who found the feeling of the voters being in line with the results.   Fact is there are now even more residents in the Crimea who blame the Ukraine for the way it aborted the Ukraine constitution and the fact is they do not want to be part of Ukraine.

There were problems in the Donbas region as well - and pat of the area was never under control of the Ukraine Government since 2014.    The Minsk agreement allowed for a new negotiated peace agreement allowing for - 

*    retention of the Ukraine borders without Cimea being part of the agreement

*     revision of the Ukraine constitution with two distinctive areas being determined - the one having majority Ukraine residency and the other being the residence of majority Russia speaking  people;

The new Ukraine constitution would guarantee a greater degree of "provincial  government control in the Eastern Ukraine area with defined functions of freedom of all people in the siad area.

Ukraine was together with Russia organize elections in the area voting for the creation of the Ukraine as negotiated,   to approve the revised Constitution and establish a new federal form of Government i Ukraine.   Both parties agreed to the negotiated settlement and Ukraine was supposed to organize the referendum on the issue.- which they never did.    

In all of this the corrupt idiots running Washington undermined the agreement and caused in a major way the problems now encountered.   Instead the propaganda network started to claim that the Ukraine is winning the war against Russia and they must be encouraged to keep fighting by the USA - while the Ukraine itself is suffering and the Ukraine army is NOT winning the War.   

A negotiated peace based on the Minsk agreement is the only way out.   Even NATO says that Ukraine will not win the war and it may became a long term problem - yet the Washington crowd and especially the ultra-corrupt amongst them are not in favor of peace - since it will cut back on the backhanders they thrive on. 

You refer to change and then added "for the better" - if there is one thing that is better - just name it.    The world is unstable - the economies are self-destructing and the woke culture you believe in are worse.           


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sharkbokCaptain23,202 posts
04 Jun 2022, 02:08
#38
04 Jun 2022, 02:08#38

One major improvement is that we have cancelled God from mainstream culture, and his supporters are a minority that decline by the day....

They are the fringe looney conspiracies that are out of touch with the 21st century. God would call them fools (if he existed)


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MpowerPro5,061 posts
04 Jun 2022, 02:34
#39
04 Jun 2022, 02:34#39

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/usappblog/2022/03/28/how-woke-became-weaponized-in-the-culture-wars/

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MpowerPro5,061 posts
04 Jun 2022, 02:37
#40
04 Jun 2022, 02:37#40

This is a Article about Woke Culture...is this how a person should understand it?

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