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Europe’s bumbling bureaucrats shouldn’t be running a city....

Started by Mozart41 REPLIES844 VIEWS· 20 Mar 2021, 16:01
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Mar 2021, 16:01
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20 Mar 2021, 16:01#1
Incredible bungling!

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Mar 2021, 21:03
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20 Mar 2021, 21:03#2

These guys are best left to banning teapots....what a great decision to go for Brexit. Thousands of lives saved.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Mar 2021, 04:28
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22 Mar 2021, 04:28#3

Mozart

Own experience indicates that  a large percentage of  bureaucrats have no idea about the practical impact of their actions.     Everything is theoretical and the theory is based on what they have been taught  by people that has no practical experience either,    They live in their own bubble and in this case the bubble has  burst,     Not surprised at it at all,.         

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
22 Mar 2021, 14:46
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22 Mar 2021, 14:46#4

Mozart, if I can give you a tip, the trick to trolling is subtlety.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Mar 2021, 20:17
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22 Mar 2021, 20:17#5

Ja I know Anger, but if I’m subtle that would rule you out.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Mar 2021, 20:19
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22 Mar 2021, 20:19#6

Mike the world is going through a period of terrible leadership....there is no world leader with views I can support or with morals I can discern.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
22 Mar 2021, 21:22
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22 Mar 2021, 21:22#7

"Ja I know Anger, but if I’m subtle that would rule you out."

Well done on missing the point!

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
22 Mar 2021, 21:29
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22 Mar 2021, 21:29#8
"....there is no world leader with views I can support or with morals I can discern."
This from a Trumpanzee!
LMAO!
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Mar 2021, 22:56
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22 Mar 2021, 22:56#9

Okay Anger explain the point....the floor is your’s.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Mar 2021, 14:56
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23 Mar 2021, 14:56#10

Mozart

The days of great leadership are  gone and we hare left with bumbling incompetents like the dementia suffering Biden.   The Russian Communists always bragged that the west will succumb ultimately because of the deficiencies in the democratic system.   

Matter of fact what is never mentioned in the modern era is that  the ancient Greeks regarded Democracy as a bad form, of Government,  because of the danger of mob rule and  of demagogue leadership.    

The only world leaders with a program for their countries future are the Chinese, the Russians and the Iranians - in other words of dictatorial rule.   The western thinking has taken democracy so far to a theoretical perfection that  would always result in chaos and short term decisions that harm their countries,   

There are broadly speaking only two types  of  leaderships in the world today  namely -

*    dictatorships with Russia bordering on that,  but of a more benevolent kind; and

*     the often corrupt, dishonest and incompetent leaders  in the so-called democracies,

So do we have leaders today  that puts the people they govern before anything else?   I am afraid there are none.   

I remember some discussions in War and Peace after the defeat of Napoleon - when Russia was going into a government morass.    One of the people involved  said - "I wish  Napoleon is back - he will hit the nonsense out of them."    How true is that today.    Maybe the Chinese Communists may be the Napoleon of today,        

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 Mar 2021, 17:47
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23 Mar 2021, 17:47#11

Mob rule indeed Maaik, and by the time the West realizes, it will be too late...we are being overun because we are too nice.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
23 Mar 2021, 18:14
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23 Mar 2021, 18:14#12

Wehe . . . Trumpanzees who worshipped the most useless, incompetent and self-serving loser of all time complaining about world leadership.

LMAO!

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Mar 2021, 19:09
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23 Mar 2021, 19:09#13

Why don't you use that bloody half-dead  braincell  of yours for a change.   CNN is your only source for news and opinions and you know what?    CNN is owned by Warner Brothers and who is the majority shareholder of Warner's  is China. - so the  washing of that single malfunctioning brain cell  of yours is  on behalf of the Chinese.

Now lets get it straight it has zero to do with Trump and everything to do with the dementia-suffering Biden.    He is a complete  incompetent and  is fucking up the USA royally, b   So much so both China and Russia shit all over him and he can say nothing because they have the proof of his involvement in bribery and corruption.    Neither can his handlers say anything - they are as involved in corruption as he is.

Bu t my remarks does not really deal with the incompetent idiot who  fronts as President why hiding in the WH.    His handlers gave permission for a press conference on Thursday - bit there is one proviso that was never applied to any US president before,   His handlers insist that the journalists  who would be allowed to ask questions send the questions  to them in advance  must send their questions to them so they can write out replies  and  serious questions will not be allowed

So you are happy with the dumb cunt - after all birds of a feather flock together -  and idiots will always stick together.                   

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SebPro2,680 posts
23 Mar 2021, 19:52
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23 Mar 2021, 19:52#14

Mike's practical wisdom is  right...those who follow media are puppets of sinister agendas.

Biden is weak and will destroy America...no question, just wait and see

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 Mar 2021, 19:56
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23 Mar 2021, 19:56#15

Xiden is a proxi-prezz.

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SebPro2,680 posts
23 Mar 2021, 20:13
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23 Mar 2021, 20:13#16

The man in the street in Moscow is roaring with laughter at Americas choice of a 78 year old clown and weakling...no jokes, I'm serious....it's sad, a once great opponent USA, is become a joke to Russians, indeed ,to all sane level-headed people.  Xi  and Vlad imir will have him for breakfast..

Shame on you Americans.

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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
23 Mar 2021, 21:03
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23 Mar 2021, 21:03#17
Russia is nobody on the world stage. Their economy is smaller than Italy's.
They like to act as if they are important with lots of weapons and nuclear bombs, but they have had a long list of leaders of terrible leaders.  
Russia could be much better than they are. I suspect they have lots of smart people, just terrible politicians. 
It seems Putin has been vaccinated, but not publicly on camera. Barely anyone in Russia wants the vaccine, and given Putin's involvement can you blame them. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56498847
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
23 Mar 2021, 21:42
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23 Mar 2021, 21:42#18
"So you are happy with the dumb cunt . . ."
Ou Maaik demonstrating all the klarse and staail he learned from his Mom and Dad . . .
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Mar 2021, 21:48
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23 Mar 2021, 21:48#19

The history of Russia goes back more than a thousand years  and they have never been conquered by anybody.   I respect the Russian people and they went through a terrible time in the years when the Communists governed it..   You are too stupid to understand that the  Communists did o come to power through elections.   Fumy how the  Democrats were infiltrated by the Communists and they are  in fact now driving an agenda to fi the failed Communist policies  in the USA,

To make it brief - if I had to choose between  Putin and  Biden as President I will  be an enthusiastic  Putin supporter, 

     

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Mar 2021, 21:48
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23 Mar 2021, 21:48#20

The history of Russia goes back more than a thousand years  and they have never been conquered by anybody.   I respect the Russian people and they went through a terrible time in the years when the Communists governed it..   You are too stupid to understand that the  Communists did o come to power through elections.   Fumy how the  Democrats were infiltrated by the Communists and they are  in fact now driving an agenda to fi the failed Communist policies  in the USA,

To make it brief - if I had to choose between  Putin and  Biden as President I will  be an enthusiastic  Putin supporter, 

     

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Mar 2021, 21:48
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23 Mar 2021, 21:48#21

The history of Russia goes back more than a thousand years  and they have never been conquered by anybody.   I respect the Russian people and they went through a terrible time in the years when the Communists governed it..   You are too stupid to understand that the  Communists did o come to power through elections.   Fumy how the  Democrats were infiltrated by the Communists and they are  in fact now driving an agenda to fi the failed Communist policies  in the USA,

To make it brief - if I had to choose between  Putin and  Biden as President I will  be an enthusiastic  Putin supporter, 

     

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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
23 Mar 2021, 23:13
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23 Mar 2021, 23:13#22

I can assure you that Russia's history goes back longer than 1 thousand years. 

So CleverWanker, if Democracy is not the best option, and neither is Communism - what do you suggest? 

The alt-right want a Communist system with a Trump-style of leader that will install himself for life.   

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Mar 2021, 01:25
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24 Mar 2021, 01:25#23
And the left wants communism without borders,  and better benefits for government officials. And a president who can’t say ‘no’ to anything and doesn’t have the IQ to understand the economic risks he is running.
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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
24 Mar 2021, 01:37
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24 Mar 2021, 01:37#24
Why would anyone in the US want no borders? 
If they are not legal citizens, they cant vote. Also, many of the Latin Americans vote Republican anyway. 
The Democrats have been too lax, but that is also because they are trying to be human in their dealings with children. 

This is a worldwide problem of refugees. They should just be sent back to Mexico in the case of the US. They should drive them to a Mexican town away from the border and put them back in Mexico.
Unfortunate, however border laws have to be followed around the world.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Mar 2021, 01:56
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24 Mar 2021, 01:56#25

Why would anybody want no borders? Political power. The Dems are convinced they are strong long term beneficiaries of immigration....and short term beneficiaries, garnering the support of the Latino community that has the vote. Humanity has little to do with it. 

If weak countries export their problems to strong countries, pretty soon we will all reach a lower common denominator.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Mar 2021, 08:41
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24 Mar 2021, 08:41#27

The problem is that if you take the last century  there are many examples where the best leaders countries had were  not really democrats,   Take for instance Salazar of Portugal  - lived in a small flat in  Lisbon - not a mansion - paid himself  about $1 200  a month as salary and  the result - Portugal was financially better off than the mighty UK.    Those who followed was all poor leaders - and Portugal within five years  was an economic train-smash.  Needless to say like the present Democrats in the USA  it was the Socialists who took over from him in  1974.

Wait a second  -   the story is not what you make it out to be.    Illegal migrants can be granted   citizenship if they worked  on farms  for 18 months  in the last five years,   That opens the way for fraudulent  applications in huge numbers/

So who wants open borders in the USA - certainly not the preset Latino community who have US citizenship through birth or  who fled from Cuba  under Castro.     In Florida the Latinos rejected the Democrats  and Biden in 2020  and unlike in the past 5 presidential elections in 2020 was not a marginal state anymore,    In Texas the Congressional Districts with overwhelming Latino residential numbers who elected Democratic members of the House  with majorities of more than 20% in 2020 became marginal with majorities  of less than 5% and in in one case a seat was flipped by the Republicans.    Same happened in California where a number of House seats went Republican, eg California 25 in Los Angeles who has a majority o f Latino and Black voters, 

So who wants open borders?    The Democratic Socialists - eg the Communists within the Democratic Party - who call the shots under Biden.     The children problem started under Obama and  the solutions  Obama used was inherited and retained by the Trump administration.    The Democrats lied about it and so did the media.   .They used it as propaganda against Trump - but never against Obama.- and suckers fell for the story. 

What the Biden handlers did  was open borders and  if they think they are strengthening themselves politically the Louisiana example I quoted above is just  the beginning of a nightmare for them.    

Sharkbok - just as an aside  -  I study elections for years and  I know what happened all the time.   Last year on site I predicted Biden would win  and Beeno never forgave me for that.  My next prediction is that the Democrats will suffer massive defeat in the mid-term elections 18 months from now and the centrists in the Party will take over the party or the party will split  along centrist and leftists  lines.   The ideological  differences are too big to be accommodated in one party,              

                

     

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
24 Mar 2021, 10:27
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24 Mar 2021, 10:27#28

Pffffffhahahahaha!

Ou Maaik, the simpleton who knows less about history than anyone on this board (including Baboon-ou) giving lectures on . . . ummmmm . . . history!

LMAO!

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Mar 2021, 13:06
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24 Mar 2021, 13:06#29

Rooinek

You know nothing about anything and even in school I got the book price for being the best  pupil in that subject which I passed with distinction.   The book price I got as War and Peace of Tolstoy,  

Have you anything remotely equal to that  bird brain?     Oops -  I must be careful - I am  insulting birds  by the comparison.      

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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
24 Mar 2021, 14:16
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24 Mar 2021, 14:16#30
The US is a troubled country, and they may be past its peak as a country.

 In the last 5 hundred years, there has been 1 country that been the world power for about a century. The US has been exposed as a country filled with racial hatred, and the amount of guns in the US is shocking. The difference between places like California and NewYork with the Republican red necks is great. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Mar 2021, 14:44
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24 Mar 2021, 14:44#31

SB

Really you should stop watching CNN/   There is minimal racist hatred in the  USA  - normally the people live and work together in peace - until the NY Times and CNN  decided to make racism an issue in the 2020 election.   As a consequence the DP decided to organize and Fund the BLM organization and there other subjects Antifa.      Floydd - the ew super sufferer because of racism - was a career criminal - with a long history of drug abuse.  The Police waned to arrest him again  - but he resisted  and in the process lost his life,    Nobiody justifies the police in that case.    How many Floydd like cases were there in the USA in 2020  - the answer is 19 - how many of those were Blacks - 9,   Nobody justifies that - but racism is an artificial creation  by the media - not based on anything realistic.          

Take the latest example with CNN.   CNN said the shooter in Boulder Colorado was a white - and that it is typical of White racists.   The media even said the  fact hat hew as taken alive implies he is a White - any other shooter would have been shot by the Police.    However, the shooter was an Arab - and then the media decided not to use his name in reporting still implying he  is a White.    

It really is  tragedy that the media has become a brainwashing machine that spouts racist BS all the time.  .   

Mozart - who has been living in the USA for many years will tell you the same,       

The leftist media stir up stories about racism  for their own reasons.

Do you know anything about the history of gun ownership in the  USA?    Have you got any real stats about gun ownership in the USA?          .        

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
24 Mar 2021, 15:10
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24 Mar 2021, 15:10#32

"The book price I got as War and Peace of Tolstoy,  

Have you anything remotely equal to that  bird brain?"

I'd only know if I had anything equal if you tell us the price of the book, ou Maaik.

LMAO!

Ou Maaik, you've demonstrated your rank stupidity on this board on so many different subjects for so many years, but seriously, cricket and history are two subjects you should avoid. Your total ignorance on those two subjects is astounding even by your remarkably low standards.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
24 Mar 2021, 15:26
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24 Mar 2021, 15:26#33
Let's run a little pool here . . . if ou Maaik was given War and Peace as a "price" while he was still at school (let's assume he was around 21 at the time . . . don't think you were allowed to still attend school if you were older than that) and bearing in mind he's about 75 years old now, it means he's had the book for about 54 years. Let's guess what page he's on. Closest guess wins a price of ou Maaik's choice.
I'm going for page 17.
Anyone else?
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Mar 2021, 16:29
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24 Mar 2021, 16:29#34

Childish....actually embarrassingly juvenile Rooipeepie.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Mar 2021, 20:21
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24 Mar 2021, 20:21#35

Rooi know-nothing

The book I read about three times to fully comprehend that it is the best novel ever written.   The way the book was written is very difficult to see how the various topics merge into a w hole - the way life was lived in Russia in the early 19th century and the way it is lived today.   Peoples outlook on life then is similar to what  it is today - unless  you are part of the Woke  culture that is and at destruction and the cancel culture you find  in the Western countries at present.    

In the end China is going to hit the shit out of them and destroy the culture of democracies

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Mar 2021, 20:53
#36
24 Mar 2021, 20:53#36

""So you are happy with the dumb cunt . . ."


Ou Maaik demonstrating all the klarse and staail he learned from his Mom and Dad . . ."
The same man who's frowning on a bit of profanity thinks it's funny to repeatedly joke about paedophilia and child abuse. You can't make this sh!t up!
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Mar 2021, 20:56
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24 Mar 2021, 20:56#37

"In the last 5 hundred years, there has been 1 country that been the world power for about a century. The US has been exposed as a country filled with racial hatred, and the amount of guns in the US is shocking."


Nonsensical!!! Can you count to potato?

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Mar 2021, 21:11
#38
24 Mar 2021, 21:11#38

""The book price I got as War and Peace of Tolstoy,  

Have you anything remotely equal to that  bird brain?"

I'd only know if I had anything equal if you tell us the price of the book, ou Maaik.

LMAO!

Ou Maaik, you've demonstrated your rank stupidity on this board on so many different subjects for so many years, but seriously, cricket and history are two subjects you should avoid. Your total ignorance on those two subjects is astounding even by your remarkably low standards."


Ou Rooidrol, you can make fun of Ou Maaik all day long..., but slating his grammar and spelling, knowing it's his second language, is even more stupid than you accuse him of being...and nasty AF...I'm quite sure your Afrikaans is way kakker than Ou Maaik's English.

...and your stupid racial slurs are pathetic...go "traai" that BS at Loftus when the studiums open up for the public again...text book case of small cock syndrome if I ever saw it.

And History is written by the PTB...just look on the new spin the ANC is trying...arsehole of bigger note than the wannabe-fireman.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Mar 2021, 23:12
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24 Mar 2021, 23:12#39

You asked an extra-dumb question about what is a better option than the present interpretation of  democracy.

I believe voting should be restricted to people with voting rights  be earned through education and contribution to the economy of the country through business operation.  That were basically the norms the ancient  Greeks  used.  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Mar 2021, 23:20
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24 Mar 2021, 23:20#40

In Ancient Greece....Greek men had the vote, no women, no immigrants.

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