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Freedom...open views, for the one-eyed that approves of gagged media

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SebPro2,680 posts
15 Mar 2022, 07:37
#1
15 Mar 2022, 07:37#1

Hear the other man's views, open your eyes, have a choice to make an informed decision if you believe in honesty and fairness. Some links:


https://rumble.com/vwbbjn-putin-announces-special-operation-in-donbass-special-coverage.html


https://rumble.com/vxec9g-serbs-rally-in-support-of-russian-military-operation-in-ukraine.html


https://rumble.com/vxe0ra-russian-military-offensive-in-ukraine-day-19.html


https://rumble.com/vxdi4d-abandoned-in-a-hurry-rt-takes-a-look-inside-seized-ukrainian-navy-ships.html


https://rumble.com/vxdz9e-russian-troops-transfer-ukrainian-weapons-to-donbass.html

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
15 Mar 2022, 09:08
#2
15 Mar 2022, 09:08#2

So your posting links for yourself????

If there is anyone that approves of gagging the media its a putin loving gimp like you.

I suppose the all media but the state controlled being shut down and the people arrested in russia is fake news?

By the way still enjoying all the death and mayhem your fake idol is responsible for, or still praying for more kids to be blown to pieces?

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
15 Mar 2022, 10:41
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15 Mar 2022, 10:41#3
Hard to believe that Tit - the ignorant and uninformed hypocrite - is having a pop at the Western media while the Russian state media is manipulating news to the extent that a Russian TV editor held a placard behind the newsreader saying "don't believe the propaganda, they're lying to you" . . . but this repulsive Putin apologist is having a whine about the Western media.
Seriously hard to believe that anyone could be so brainwashed and biased.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Mar 2022, 14:18
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15 Mar 2022, 14:18#4

The media in the USA are controlled by a clique of billionaires and the Chinese Government through shareholdings.    I do not watch Russia today - but if you want the truth you will not find it in the fake media whose objective is to brainwash people and not to think by presenting them with fake news and lies.   

Remember the famous Russian Hoaxes that turned out to be constant fabrications by the Democrats of lies devoid of any truth.   In fact it was the Democrats who were colluding with Russia through bribery and corruption - it is a known fact that when the Democrats accuse opponents of doing something - it is 100% certain they are  involved in what they accuse opposition of doing.   .         

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
15 Mar 2022, 14:56
#5
15 Mar 2022, 14:56#5

I see..... so the Ukranian government has got all these actors from somewhere in the middle of this war.... to go on film and constantly act like remorseful Russian soldiers.....

Crying Russian soldiers

As they say, the first thing that goes missing in any war... is the truth.

Propaganda exits in every war, but how one can think that Ukraine have done this, on the level that it is being displayed, every single day, is ludicrous


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
16 Mar 2022, 07:56
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16 Mar 2022, 07:56#6

Actually in Sebastian's world it's quite simple..........if you're anti Putin then you're brainwashed.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Mar 2022, 21:34
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22 Mar 2022, 21:34#7
Chabal there are moments in life where your beliefs turn out to be false. Where you realize the truth you are being fed is false. Embrace the learning…Even if the Ukraine was the worst nation on the planet, there is no justification for killing civilians or destroying cities it has taken centuries to build. The US invasion in Iraq was wrong but much more justified than this monstrous invasion
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Mar 2022, 21:34
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22 Mar 2022, 21:34#8
Chabal there are moments in life where your beliefs turn out to be false. Where you realize the truth you are being fed is false. Embrace the learning…Even if the Ukraine was the worst nation on the planet, there is no justification for killing civilians or destroying cities it has taken centuries to build. The US invasion in Iraq was wrong but much more justified than this monstrous invasion
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sharkbokCaptain23,202 posts
22 Mar 2022, 22:33
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22 Mar 2022, 22:33#9

Putin is an authoritarian dictator and mass murderer. Anyone who supports him is a degenerate. He kills the opposition party members, and opposition media are closed down or have to leave the country. 

The West has a far more free media with competing ideologies. It is Democratic, despite corruption. However, the corruption is still less than authoritarian countries. This is why the West can beat other countries. 

Russia relies on natural assets, like most authoritarian countries. Their corruption prevents a free market, even when they allow capitalism. 

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
22 Mar 2022, 23:10
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22 Mar 2022, 23:10#10

Face facts Russia is a country of slaves, they have always been. From the Tzars to Stalin to Putin. 

The masses have bent their backs and have no idea what freedom is, history keeps repeating for them and I doubt they will ever throw off the shackles of slavery its like it is in embedded in their DNA now.

Putin will be replaced with another dictator and the slaves will continue to obey.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Mar 2022, 00:14
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23 Mar 2022, 00:14#11

Well if we examine the intellectual content Russia has added to the world , calling the Russian people slaves is a bit harsh. Russia deserves a good government. If they had that they would prosper.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
23 Mar 2022, 01:25
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23 Mar 2022, 01:25#12

Not saying they are stupid or anything like that but looking at the history it keeps repeating itself there. You can't deny that fact and I am also not saying they have contributed nothing to the world.

Imagine what they could add if they had the freedom of the western world instead of one dictator after another.

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BlackboyClub Pro702 posts
23 Mar 2022, 03:55
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23 Mar 2022, 03:55#13
‘Putin is an authoritarian dictator and mass murderer. Anyone who supports him is a degenerate.’ And hiding in here the cowards
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Mar 2022, 05:38
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23 Mar 2022, 05:38#14

The fact is that Putin allows opposition parties to function and they have support of about 50% of the electorate.   Russia is a huge country covering about one-sixth of the total land area of the world.  It is difficult for parties to organize countrywide and the system of voting is first past the post and not run-offs.   

In the last Parliamentary election Putin's Party got 49,2% of the votes cast compared to 50,8% of the opposition parties.

In the last Presidential election the Opposition Parties tabled a motion in the Duma to change the election day and it was changed,   In the actual election there were 10 opposition  candidates - the strongest one being from the Russian Communist Party.    Putin won easily and there is a reason for that as well - it has nothing to do with dictatorship.   After the fall of the communist regime in 1992 Russia went through a period of extremely serious economic problems - I in fact went for a vacation in Russia in 1993 and found  there were shortages of everything imaginable.   After Putin took over the Government the economy recovered and shortages were eliminated. 

The story of the dictatorship is thin and based on propaganda.   I do not say Putin is not a bad politician and should not be criticized - what I am saying is that people should stick with facts and that you will not get that from the media in the EU countries and the USA.  Putin has deficiencies - but is a notch above the corrupt filth that is running or better still ruining the USA with Biden as puppet President.  

With Biden and his mafia crime family associates there is more corruption in the USA than in Russia.   Corruption in the USA  leadership involved China, Russia, Iran and Ukraine and those countries know that Biden is a farce and he can be manipulated as  a result.   What Obama did as President was to use the Zuma system - capture the FBI, the CIA  and the Justice Department and no  corruption by Democrats will ever be investigated.    The attack is now on State and local police - which has not yet been captured - and the reason is clear.   Get rid of the police  and  corruption can be extended to State and local level by Democrat politicians.   The loot in fact runs into billions of dollars annually.         

  

           

     

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SebPro2,680 posts
23 Mar 2022, 08:51
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23 Mar 2022, 08:51#15

Heard of Statista? It is a German company in Hamburg founded in 2007. It is a consumer and marketing data company with over 1 million statistics. It is rated as a trustworthy data company..

This might shock you.

• Russia: trust in Vladimir Putin 2022 | Statista

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
23 Mar 2022, 09:02
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23 Mar 2022, 09:02#16

Adolf Hitler was trusted by the majority of Germans, look how that turned out for them. Don't give a continental if 100% of russians trust him, he is still a murdering cunt. I wouldn't cross the street to piss on if he was on fire. 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
23 Mar 2022, 09:27
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23 Mar 2022, 09:27#17
Lolzzz Blackie and Sader making posts at the exactly the same time in different threads…at 03:45. Sader, i took you for an uneducated halfwit, but damn dude…the levels of cowardly are reaching new highs. If you’re gonna come at me, attempt to have at least a little game. You absolute mong! lol night shift …so weak hahahahahahahaha
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Mar 2022, 10:28
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23 Mar 2022, 10:28#18

Plum

Whenever the leftist media  consider the leadership of any countries where Conservatives are elected who oppose their agenda - these leaders are accused of being dictators.    It happened to Trump, Bolsonario and the Hungarian Prime Minister.   So why not accuse Putin as well.

The problem is  that the idiots who are easily brainwashed believe the lies and distortions of the fake media who specializes in propaganda.   It did not take me long to find data on the latest Duma (Parliament) elections in Russia .   If there is indeed a dictatorship in Russia - it must be a unique one where  the Opposition Parties get more votes than the Governing Party.   But then idiots will believe every lie imaginable - because they are too dim  to realize they are being manipulated.  

By the way in a year through his mandates undermined the US  Constitution and his actions were more dictatorial than Trump ever was.   They were aimed at controlling of all the people in the country.   Aside from  that the FBI and CIA is being used to spy on people - even parents who object to indoctrination of their children are spied on.        

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
23 Mar 2022, 10:49
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23 Mar 2022, 10:49#19
Mike i don’t know enough about it tbh. Though, when Putin disappears journalists the first words you hear are dictator. When Hillary has her enemies suicided…we hear nothing. It’s also particularly difficult to judge someone on their words. I read Mein Kampf and there is a lot which is accurate in there. Obviously a lot that is straight-up evil too. The point being, even the most evil people in history spoke many true words. So you’re left with actions and success rates. That’s why i supported Donald. Not because I liked him or thought he made sense all the time. But because of his numbers and his actions. Putin is setting his country back decades and causing physical harm to people in the process. I can’t support any of that. Sound bites and clips mean absolutely zilch…i mean, unless you’re running into a burning building to save somebody.
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SebPro2,680 posts
23 Mar 2022, 10:51
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23 Mar 2022, 10:51#20

When there is Night Soil around it attracts Calliphora V omitoria.

The Cancel Culture is probably the worst kind. It tries to cancel truth and invent fantasies.

ie Yuri Gagarin was the 1st man in space, just cancel it LOL.

Haha cancelling truth.

Tell me if NZ or France wins the RWC and we don't like it and sore about it, can we just cancel it.and sing we are the champions


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sharkbokCaptain23,202 posts
23 Mar 2022, 11:31
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23 Mar 2022, 11:31#21

DumbMike and Substantial fool are products of Apartheid.
My guess is that both were part of the AWB Nazis.  The AWB was also very brainwashed. 

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SebPro2,680 posts
23 Mar 2022, 12:29
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23 Mar 2022, 12:29#22

Just as I thought, one of the blue bottle flies  will pop up.So predictable.

The factory of professional liars. Rather give me a benevolent despot or autocracy over a hundred rats.

https://youtu.be/_aGbdni7QNs

https://youtu.be/HbP8HGxrgo8

 You can never trust a morally deprived society whose leaders constantly deceive and tells proven lies, in opposed to suppositions, guesses about others they know nothing about. Biden will go the same way soon.

Voltaire Quote: “I would rather obey a fine lion, much stronger than myself, than two hundred rats of my own species.


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sharkbokCaptain23,202 posts
23 Mar 2022, 13:24
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23 Mar 2022, 13:24#23

SebstantialFool, that is because you have an authoritarian personality. You are not a Westerner, but the shit that has been shat out by society. 

Wait God is on Putin's side, so he must be a good person. Clearly a product of Apartheid, the same people that rooted for Hitler- while the good South Africans joined the Western Alliance. 


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SebPro2,680 posts
23 Mar 2022, 13:26
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23 Mar 2022, 13:26#24

Cancel Culture, no doubt very evil. The theft of our ability to think for ourselves or choo se and this is what's happening.

https://rumble.com/vy5ln3-satanic-version-of-cancel-culture-emir-kusturica-on-western-russophobia.html

No I'm not against American people or English or any nation because there is good and bad in every nation but we are facing something more sinister here which nobody has any clue here.

None of you have the foggiest clue of what is really happening, neither do I but at least I look at the other side, have been to Russia and Ukraine several times study history and indeed see another narrative, that is the very least we can do.

Raymond Ackerman, the great originator of SA's biggest retail chain store, once said and wrote a book called "Grasshoppers Jump"...Hearing grasshoppers jump' - or keeping one's ear so close to the ground that one can detect the slightest movement - is one of the nuggets of practical wisdom ...

Potty mouthing your emotions on what is presented to you is indeed very stupid..


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sharkbokCaptain23,202 posts
23 Mar 2022, 13:30
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23 Mar 2022, 13:30#25

It is amazing how the brainwashed always claim that the independent thinkers are brainwashed... It is reverse psychology and misinformation peddled by the Church to their minions. 

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SebPro2,680 posts
23 Mar 2022, 13:45
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23 Mar 2022, 13:45#26

Have no truck with internet  trolls, ignore them, that's wise, they thrive on foul words and insults. Something I'm learning. Starve them to death by ignoring them.

"Never argue with an idiot. You'll never convince the idiot that you're correct, and bystanders won't be able to tell who's who ". Mark Twain.

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sharkbokCaptain23,202 posts
23 Mar 2022, 13:52
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23 Mar 2022, 13:52#27

You can quote Mark Twain, but he was a sensible person that would never support Putin. 

When he is referring to an idiot, he means you...

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
23 Mar 2022, 14:51
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23 Mar 2022, 14:51#28

Anyway you look at it, nothing can justify Putin spending nearly 750 million pounds on one of his yachts, which includes a solid gold toilet paper holder.

That is despite the monstrous mansion that he had built for himself, which he denies

All this whilst most Russian people live off 5 000 dollars a year

Putin Super Yacht

Crazy how one single man can have the power and authority to do all this.....

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Mar 2022, 09:57
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24 Mar 2022, 09:57#29

SB

Does anything ever enter that malfunctioning brain cell of yours.   You talk about a dictatorship without even knowing what it implies, because the fake media uses the term. 

I did not defend Putin at all - I am merely stating facts.  I never said the attack on Ukraine was justified - fact is if there were decent negotiations any invasion could have been avoided - but negotiations with the Biden Administration is not possible and there was not proof that it ever took place.  

When I am accused of supporting Discrimination by the previous SA Government I can only laugh out loud - because it came from scum that left the country because  they feared for their safety when the ANC took over the Government.  

So you are a brainwashed idiot lapping up the fake news of propaganda media - while other thinking people are saying is this real or truthful and is then accused by the real brainwashed idiot of being brainwashed.       

     

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SebPro2,680 posts
31 Mar 2022, 19:45
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31 Mar 2022, 19:45#30

Mike why do you bother with stupid fools, a little knowledge, if indeed there's an iota of it, is more deceiving and dangerous, than any.

What this guy knows about anything and his recently allied side kick is worth nothing except either laughter or if you are serious, pity.

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sharkbokCaptain23,202 posts
31 Mar 2022, 22:56
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31 Mar 2022, 22:56#31
clevermike

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Mar 24, 2022, 09:57

SB

When I am accused of supporting Discrimination by the previous SA Government I can only laugh out loud - because it came from scum that left the country because  they feared for their safety when the ANC took over the Government.  

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Discrimination came from the scum that left the country?
Most of the people that have left SA were too young to vote during the Apartheid era, so it is hard to fathom how they can be responsible. Sure some of the Chicken runners cashed in their chips and left, but they were older. 
Try the AWB who were Nazi's, or the the Broederbond. Or Verwoerd and the voters of that era.

You sold the white man out when you got involved with the radical left. You even said you were collaborting with known terrorists, before your workplace was bombed. You stated the government tapped your phone. You joined with George Orwells Animal farm when it suited you.

You were once a high flyer, even mixing with the likes of Zuma...who you claimed was a fine genteman, and you even mentioned property deals where you searched the market for a new home for him.


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