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Ground invasion more difficult than Bakmut

Started by Moonrover34 REPLIES620 VIEWS· 11 Oct 2023, 15:34
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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
11 Oct 2023, 15:34
#1
11 Oct 2023, 15:34#1

The Israel's seem bent on a ground invasion that will be more difficult than Bakmut.... which took Russia something like 224 days. 

The underground network in Gaza has been built over years and Hamas will fight to the last. Suppose the Israelis will deploy some water or gas pumps to flush them out. 



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Oct 2023, 16:00
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11 Oct 2023, 16:00#2

Battles in cities are always very bad - it took the allies in WW2 6 months to capture Monte Cassino - even though the German force only cionsisted of 1 battalion.   Building ruins help provide cover to defenders in any city to be conquered,    The other problm is the streets would be mined and that makes defense much  easier.   

I suspect  while the Israeli's concentrate on attacking  Gaza  Hezbollah and Iran forces already in Syria will attack Israel from Lebanon and Syria.   This will be a determined Iran effort to wipe out Israel from the ME map.   Don't expect any real help from the USA anyway - Biden is an arse-kisser of the Ayatollah.           .       

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
11 Oct 2023, 17:59
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11 Oct 2023, 17:59#3

And now for another lesson of alternate history brought to you by Clevermike

Battles in cities are always very bad - it took the allies in WW2 6 months (4 months) to capture Monte (note the Italian word for mountain, Monte Cassino was a battle for a town and a hill) Cassino - even though the German force only cionsisted of 1(86!!!) battalion('s).   Building ruins help provide cover (what an astute observation that I'm sure no one thought of that before) to defenders in any city to be conquered,    The other problm is the streets would be mined and that makes defense much  easier. (possibly but more like IED's would be used in Gaza)  

I suspect  while the Israeli's concentrate on attacking  Gaza  Hezbollah and Iran forces already in Syria will attack Israel from Lebanon and Syria.

Doubt Iran will get directly involved but its proxies might.

This will be a determined Iran effort to wipe out Israel from the ME map. 

Doubt it, Iran don't have the capability and if it looked remotely like they could Israel will nuke them.

Don't expect any real help from the USA anyway - Biden is an arse-kisser of the Ayatollah.

Here is a link to when Biden set aside $3.3 billion in military assistance aid for Israel last December.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/biden-signs-1-7-trillion-spending-bill-including-3-8-billion-for-israel-into-law/

America aircraft carrier has been deployed off the coast of Israel.

https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/uss-gerald-r-ford-arrives-near-israel-what-to-know-about-mammoth-us-carrier-13236002.html

Second carrier considered being sent.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-is-considering-deploying-second-aircraft-carrier-near-israel-in-bid-to-stop-other-nations-joining-in-hamas-attacks-on-the-jewish-state/ar-AA1hZZw3

And here is Biden strongly condemning Hamas (who are backed by Iran)

https://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/biden-condemns-sheer-evil-of-hamas-attacks-on-israel/news-story/8699031f8efd1c6d44c930f8e243637e

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
11 Oct 2023, 18:15
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11 Oct 2023, 18:15#4

Good thing it's not yet another religious war, oh wait........

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
11 Oct 2023, 18:24
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11 Oct 2023, 18:24#5

"Good thing it's not yet another religious war, oh wait........"

Opposed to the exterminations by Atheist regimes? ...this has nothing to do with religion,  it's human ambition and greed...religion is used as a tool to accommodate that...stop looking for a stick to beat the labeled...

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
11 Oct 2023, 18:34
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11 Oct 2023, 18:34#6

So all wars are based on Atheism as those that are religious are fighting each other purely for personal reasons?

Nice dodge that one dradd, everytime a religious retard goes full postal it has nothing to do with their religion, keep telling yourself that.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
11 Oct 2023, 18:36
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11 Oct 2023, 18:36#7

You do know all these fuckwits are fighting over land they regard as holy to their own delusional religion right.

Amazing how quick our religious posters are to try to claim  these wars have nothing to do with religion.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
11 Oct 2023, 18:51
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11 Oct 2023, 18:51#8

Opposed to the exterminations by Atheist regimes?

None of which where caused by Atheism. Atheism is simply a lack of belief in gods, there is no Atheist commandants or bible verses that command Atheists to kill non atheists.

...this has nothing to do with religion,  it's human ambition and greed...religion is used as a tool to accommodate that...stop looking for a stick to beat the labeled...

Think you're in denial if you don't believe religion has a major role in this conflict.

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
11 Oct 2023, 18:57
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11 Oct 2023, 18:57#9

This Sad Sack is trying to come across as a pacifist yet worships the ground Zinsky walks on. All the atheists on here have found their god in Zinsky..... heil Zinsky...the poo pirate brigade worships you. 

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
11 Oct 2023, 19:05
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11 Oct 2023, 19:05#10

Nice to see you sticking to the topic as usual, Moony.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
11 Oct 2023, 19:28
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11 Oct 2023, 19:28#11

Pedobendover, news for you I don't worship any man. I leave the groveling on your knees and sucking on some imaginary  boyfriends balls to you poor sad sacks.

Unbelievable how so many are happy to show that they are simps and happy  to show their feminine side for the world to see.

Man up and show some fuckin pride in yourself.


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
11 Oct 2023, 19:31
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11 Oct 2023, 19:31#12

Yes Pedo old crust supports the Zelensky Nazi Regime. 

Atheists like Hitler, Stalin and Mao Tse Tong killed hundreds of Millions. These are pedo old mouldy crusts big heroes. 

I trust all you Hamas supporters know that these islamists beheaded some 40 babies. It's all over Twitter and the news.

The corrupt Pedo and Sniffer in Chief and his perverted sellout Regime have planned this for some time. 

Nobody can rationally explain why the Biden Regime left over 80 billion dollars of military hardware to the Taiban. Now we know as this weaponry is being used by Hamas. Ukraine has also sold weaponry to Hamas. 

But that is not all. Biden released over 6 billion dollars to iran a huge supporter of Hamas. Iran has now kicked out the nucleur inspectors and are on the way to a nucleur weapon. 

Mike is quite right Biden and the Demonrats are very anti semetic. They love the so called Squad.

 However having created their second proxy war the Biden Regime reckon lots of money can be made and time will tell how Israel comes out of this. 

If there is genuine American support even tunnels can be destroyed by bunker busting bombs. The people in Gaze had best take Bibi's advice and flee although I hear Eygpt has blocked the crossing. 

As an installed WEF Globalist puppet, Biden's job is to destroy America and the West. Judged by his objectives he has been remarkably successful. 

One good thing about all this is tbe Awakening in Europe and America regarding the dangers of Islam and the disaster Globalist open borders are. 

There is no doubt thousand of Jihadist are now in America and Europe. I have no reason to think they will at some time strike lots about this is being discussed on Twitter. This will awaken the last remaining sleepers. 

Somebody like StavAss can't wait to hand over his country to invaders. He is such a nice chap.. 

One think I can tell you for certain not a single elite Globalist will die in the Ukraine proxy war or the Israeli Proxy war.

Finslky remember wars, economic collapse, Plandemic, Food shortages and Climate change hoax will all be used to herd the sheepie into the Globalist Workd Government. Frightened people will accept anything to survive. We saw this with Covid were terrified populations lost their Freedoms - even lost control over their own bodies. 

Doubtless ou Rooitwit was driving alone in his car wearing three masks etc. 







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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
11 Oct 2023, 19:40
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11 Oct 2023, 19:40#13

Ole Pakie Duckie I think you missed out on your summary earlier on another thread. 

Hamas is using drones and took out a comms tower early on in their attack. They've taken notes on the Ukraine conflict  and upped their game. 


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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
11 Oct 2023, 19:59
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11 Oct 2023, 19:59#14

Bwahahaha, I support Hamas, you do know those lunatics believe in the same God as you do. 

What an ignorant fool you are pedobeeno.

Also so did Hitler, all tarred with the same brush. Happy to murder in the name of some imaginery being. Religion is the curse of mankind and the sooner we get past all the stupidity and hatred the better


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Oct 2023, 20:01
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11 Oct 2023, 20:01#15

So the vaunted Israeli intelligence service couldn’t predict the Hamas attack….but Biden has been planning for all this for some time. Delusional isn’t a strong enough word.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Oct 2023, 21:03
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11 Oct 2023, 21:03#16

Stav 

I do not share delusion and newspaper fiction as important  - I look at facts.    It is a fact that the arms provided to Ukraine has depleted the armaments of the USA to a critical point.    The US Army has been  buying arms from the Armaments Industry - but much of the new purchases also ended up in Ukraine.   The USA has very li.ttle to cfall back on and replacments would result that armaments promised by Biden and his mad hatters will be delivered at a snail pace.

Another uS Probvlem relates to the USA Strategic Oil Reserve.   That is at its lowest point since 1946.   P:art of the problem is that th e Regulations issued by the  Biiden Administration has a negative impact on Oil; production in the USA.   What worsened th e prob lm was that through his bagman Hunter Joe Biden authorized the sale of oil from the Reserve to China.   

Where I agree with you is that Iran will not officially get involved in the War.    For that they will have in terms of the BRICS constoittuion get permission from  BRICS - which they will not get.    That will not sop them from using the proxy war volunteeers under their command involved in the Syrian Civil War from being used against israel.  Fact is Biden did not mention Iran - who control Hezbollah and Hamas once in his statement deazli.ng with the attack on Israel.    Why not? 

However, fact is  that nobody in the ME - and that includes Israel - has any respect for Biden after h e tore up the Abraham Treaty with Israel they signed when Trump was President.   They do not respect him and to be even worse - they do not trust  him.   The debacle Biden caused with the USA Army withdrawal from Afghanistan is borne in  mind.by people.     Biden ahs a problem - he prommises , but not deliver on  promises,   

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
11 Oct 2023, 21:21
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11 Oct 2023, 21:21#17

So the vaunted Israeli intelligence service couldn’t predict the Hamas attack….but Biden has been planning for all this for some time. Delusional isn’t a strong enough word.

You swear this Joe Biden was some sort of super genius/villain working for S PECTRE, I mean he just starts all these wars effortlessly!

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Oct 2023, 22:02
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11 Oct 2023, 22:02#18

A sort of political Moriarty.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
11 Oct 2023, 23:23
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11 Oct 2023, 23:23#19

Joe Biden couldn't plan the next poop in his adult diapers.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
12 Oct 2023, 00:08
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12 Oct 2023, 00:08#20

Ole Joe, one can only admire his energy levels................. president of the US, yet still able to orchestrate war & mayhem all over the planet.

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
12 Oct 2023, 03:15
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12 Oct 2023, 03:15#21

Biden thinks Russia is losing the war against Iraq.

He thinks the queen still reigns in UK too... and he leads a proxy war against Russia.flippen Brilliant. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Oct 2023, 01:11
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13 Oct 2023, 01:11#22

BB

For your info - Biden spent less time working in the WH than any of his predecessors ever did.   He stays on average 4 days a week in the WH and 3 days a week at his beach house and home in  Delaware..    Wonderful energy level he displays and when he does appear in pu blic he is totally clueless about where he is and why?   .Embarraassing.    

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
13 Oct 2023, 02:00
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13 Oct 2023, 02:00#23

Sader, the point was: Religious make war....Atheist make war...common denominator is humans, not their religion,  or lack thereof...in this case they claim a religious reason for their war...

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Oct 2023, 02:03
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13 Oct 2023, 02:03#24

Stav

You must never rely on th e media for real info.   S o lts get back to Israel and put it in real perspective.   The USA aid to Ukraine is thus far $113 billion,   Amazing how they manag e to spare $3,2 billion on the case of Israel - especially since there are so many US cotozens living in Israel.   No emergency measures to get UJS citizens out of Israel.   

The US has desperately little weaponry to deliver to Israel - they have given it all to Ukraine.   When the Ukraine War erupted the USA .collected arms from all its bases workldwide and provide same to Ukraine.   After 7 months of war the US Senate was told that only 30% of the armaments reached the Ukraine Army and Senate was told that they are sending a Colonel to Kiev to ensure the weapons are delivered to the Ukraine Army.   So lets make a quick calculation:-

Amount of weaponry provided                                        -     $49   billion

A mount of weaponry reacxhing the Ukraine Army       -      $13    billion

Missing weaponry                                                           -      $27  billion

An in vestifgation is needed to find out how much of the wedaponry was sold off on the Armaments Black market?   How much of it ended up in G aza?   

Af ter the promised US Colonel arrived in Kiev the situation  improved so lets assiume after October 2022 that source of corrupt income landed in bank accounts of the corrupt in both Washington and Kiev?   Has any of the weaponrysold on the black Marfket reached Gaza,?   Should be investigated as well.

Then we have the impact of the global warming scasm.   Biden wants to appease climate change fanatxcs in the USA by cutting down oil production in the AUSA,   import the stuff from other countries,    So what happened as a result of regulations issued by Bill Gates and approved by Biden - the situation is that the US Strategic Oil reserve is lower hazn it was in 1946,   That in itself represents a since problem made worse by the fact that a huge aamount of oil was taken from the depleated oil reserve to he Chinese and sold to the Chinese by Biden through his bagman Hunter Biden . 

But that does not matter at all.   Just provide electric engined tanks and heavy duty transport vehicles,   It iwll only take a decade to 

Be it as it may the scorecard is as follows:-

*    Ukraine               $115 billion

*    Isarel                  $3,5 billion.   

*   Delivery date  Israel -  Iszrael - Israel - not known - probably nev er.                                          \\\\            .    .

Taiwan ordered and paid for delivery of arms to the value of $17 billion in armaments and delivery has not taken place becasuse Biden has not approved the export of the arms to Taiwan,   Some of the produced arms have allegedly been delivered to Ukraine. so he under threat -Taiwan is not important.    The Chinese are LTAO. - they are waiting for the USA to reduce their own arms and oil situation to a level where they would not be able to sustain  the US Army to be weakened and unab;le to sustain a war for longer than 3 months.   Estimated attack with Biden as President - early 2025. .   

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
13 Oct 2023, 10:52
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13 Oct 2023, 10:52#25

Agree its mankind that wages war no matter what their beliefs but all religions are man made so are obviously responsible for some wars, and you can't deny the current war in the middle east is based on those religious beliefs (along with other factors)

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
13 Oct 2023, 10:55
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13 Oct 2023, 10:55#26


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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
13 Oct 2023, 16:02
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13 Oct 2023, 16:02#27

For Christians "all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God" Rom 3v23

Don't think that so called "white lie"  you told isn't sin. Down the line someone can pay dearly for it. 

For us, Christ paid the price, his blood shed on the cross, hallelujah, amen. 


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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
13 Oct 2023, 16:06
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13 Oct 2023, 16:06#28

For us nonbelievers it's a load of bullshit and not worth wiping our ass on such silliness.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
13 Oct 2023, 16:11
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13 Oct 2023, 16:11#29

Don't  fret about it it pedobendover you will face oblivion like the rest of us, if there is an afterlife I can assure you no Jesus will be greeting you and ready to cast you down for being a pedo. This I am certain off simply because your made up bs defies any logic.

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
13 Oct 2023, 16:53
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13 Oct 2023, 16:53#30

Ole Sad Sack, the atheist prophet of note, what an oke. 

Imagine believing you instead of a Jesus.... you all smoked up with crack and benzine. 


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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
13 Oct 2023, 16:59
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13 Oct 2023, 16:59#31

Imagine believing some brainwashed idiot that believes fairy tales have a shred of truth to them that even 5 year olds can tell is bullshit.

 

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
13 Oct 2023, 17:05
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13 Oct 2023, 17:05#32

So does your donkey whisper sweet nothing in you ear while you participate in beastiality pedobendover?

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Oct 2023, 17:08
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13 Oct 2023, 17:08#33

Who the hell is this BB Clever is addressing on this string?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Oct 2023, 17:11
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13 Oct 2023, 17:11#34

blobbok Mozart - ever sseen any of his idiotic posts on site?

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
13 Oct 2023, 17:36
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13 Oct 2023, 17:36#35
Yes, you have all the answers Sad Sack.,the first prophet of delusion. "hand me that bottle of Tequila Sheila" .... let me live in your land of fogginess and pure hatred.... jeez what a foxhole you're on. 
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