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'He'll cave': Experts say Trump is 'taking violations to 11' by punishing key news group

Started by Denny7 REPLIES751 VIEWS· 13 Feb 2025, 11:14
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
13 Feb 2025, 11:14
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13 Feb 2025, 11:14#1

The White House shut out the Associated Press from an event because the news organization declined to update its style guide to change the Gulf of Mexico to the "Gulf of America."

Donald Trump announced in his inaugural address that he would change the name of the body of water between Florida and Texas and then signed an executive order instructing government agencies to reflect his preference, and the White House warned the venerable AP nonprofit news service that it would be banned from an Oval Office event if its reporting did not use the term.


“It is alarming that the Trump administration would punish AP for its independent journalism,” said Julie Pace, the AP's executive editor. “Limiting our access to the Oval Office based on the content of AP’s speech not only severely impedes the public’s access to independent news, it plainly violates the First Amendment.”

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Google and other non-government entities have changed the name on its data and other materials, but the White House turned away an AP reporter from an executive order signing Tuesday afternoon, and social media users reacted with shock and alarm at the apparent example of prior restraint – a government action that prohibits expression before it occurs.

"Woke White House bans AP from event over deadnaming the Gulf of Mexico," said Alejandra Caraballo, an instructor at the Harvard Law School Cyberlaw Clinic.


"This is a flat-out, clear-cut violation of the First Amendment," posted conservative attorney George Conway.

"Prior restraint from the White House, a direct and blatant affront to the First Amendment," said Jeff Domingues, an editor for S&P Global.

"A prior restraint AND compelled speech. Neat," added Christopher Terry, a University of Minnesota professor of media law. "I guess we're taking First Amendment violations up to 11."

"What if -- and I'm just spitballing here -- other major news organizations stopped attending Oval Office events out of solidarity with the AP, whose excellent reporting we and they have depended upon for decades?" said journalist Bill Grueskin. "Look up the confessional that begins with 'First they came for ...'"

"The AP must refuse this but more importantly the rest of the White House Correspondents Association should back them," agreed Kevin Kruse, a historian. "Boycott the press briefings until they relent, and if they refuse, walk out. There is no real use to them in any case. Trump craves attention. Deny him that and he’ll cave."


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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
13 Feb 2025, 11:25
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13 Feb 2025, 11:25#2




Here's the press briefing where that was addressed, for what it's worth.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
13 Feb 2025, 11:42
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13 Feb 2025, 11:42#3

Doesn't change a thing.....it's pathetic.

What happened to freedom of expression?

No matter.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Feb 2025, 12:08
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13 Feb 2025, 12:08#4



It vansihed years ag o with the FBI and CIA forcing the media through lies not to publish stories that could a have a negative impct on the Bidxen maladministraion as proven in court cases and spyin g on people who attended school board meetings and belng to the Cath olic Church,


The real problm the emdia face is that libel claims by the media is now laifd by Trump and settlments are being offered - while readership and voewship sent media readership and vieweship tumbling and sll the US leftist media tumbling. Some of h e emdi owners stopped the sh iot the weere publishinm g from bankruptin g theselves by claims - because the public had enough of it and thefollowing are gettin g inever deepening sh it they caused for themselves:


ABC, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, The New York Times. The Washington Post - nott only by Trump - but of other people they libled,


And you believe the shitspreading, Nobodymade more namechang es than the Democrats shitspreaders than anybody else, I oppose such things because it abuse history and real facts. - ad in the case of the Gulf story I am in opposition to the change and stated so openly. .


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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
13 Feb 2025, 12:58
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13 Feb 2025, 12:58#5

The Gulf renaming is exceedingly stupid and petty and the actions surrounding the use of the name even more so. It's water. Change the name if you want, but let people call it what they want. The water doesn't care.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
13 Feb 2025, 13:10
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13 Feb 2025, 13:10#6

Thought he had more pressing issues needing immediate attention like the war in Ukraine etc

Naaah mate, look he's done one or two good things but nope, I think he's doing more bad than good for example he's going to sell out Ukraine and to meddle in Gaza is going to lose american lives.

Madness.

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
13 Feb 2025, 13:26
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13 Feb 2025, 13:26#7

"Naaah mate, look he's done one or two good things but nope"

I see.... so even by your very own admission, Trump has got some things right.... in his extremely short time in office

So why even bother asking this question below to begin with.... from earlier this morning ... you idiot.

"State the ones that he got right."

Just proves that you like to waste people's time acting like a twat


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
13 Feb 2025, 13:37
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13 Feb 2025, 13:37#8

Shutup little boy, you should know not to butt in when adults talk.

Don't push my buttons I'll make you stand in the naughty corner.

Got that?

Good!

But on second thoughts, you've got this right...Just proves that you like to waste people's time acting like a twat

Putty between my fingers you are little boy....putty and pity



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