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How many more times

Started by Denny14 REPLIES316 VIEWS· 16 Apr 2026, 03:19
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Denny
Captain12,893 posts
16 Apr 2026, 03:19#1

do we have to keep listening to Trump proclaiming that “the war will soon be over”? It’s become his daily mantra. Yet he’s sending more troops to the Gulf—why?

And that Iran is supposedly begging for a deal—really? Especially when we’re hearing about their threat to block the Red Sea.

And that Xi will supposedly embrace him for allowing free passage of Chinese tankers—really? This is the same Xi providing pinpoint satellite accuracy of American and Allied targets to Iran!


What did we do to end up with such a trashy excuse for a world leader? For generations to come, the world—not just Americans—will bear the consequences of the fruitcake that is Trump.

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TheTraditionalist
Pro4,003 posts
16 Apr 2026, 05:38#2

Already stated many times, liberals have common points with fascists and nazis.


They respect nothing but power.


And Trump is displaying power on a daily basis.


All those Trump statements are power statements to assert his domination and gauge the submission.


They are known as false in a blatant, direct way yet they are as set as the consensual collective opinion.


Trump does not care. At all. Liberals have elected him and he keeps shitting on their face. Liberals are loving it, they open their mouth wider and wider.


The only line Trump can not cross: racism. If Trump tries not to be a racist or worse, to fight racism, it will be over for him in a minute.


Racism is essential for liberal societies. As long as Trump goes hard on blacks and browns, he will be given a free pass on everything else.


Consider, Trump is a living example of white privilege: any black skinned servant who would have his record would have been dismissed already. His record in women molestation screams white privilege.

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
16 Apr 2026, 06:41#3

Repeat untill it's true ...shows willingness to end it ...not only willingness but desire...

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
16 Apr 2026, 15:12#4

The desperation rises as the blockade blows up the prior Straits narrative….could this be yet another Trump success. The markets, a weighted average of professional opinion, seem to think so. Absurd…right?

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Denny
Captain12,893 posts
16 Apr 2026, 15:35#5

TBDS.

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
16 Apr 2026, 15:48#6

It must really hurt….ROFL

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
16 Apr 2026, 19:03#7

Trumpanzees celebrating the US blockade of the Straits as if it's some kind of victory.


Just a gentle reminder that the Straits were completely open and not an issue before Operation Epic Fail.


Still waiting for a single Trumpanzee to tell me what Operation Epic Fail has actually achieved and how it's added any value to the USA or the world.

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
16 Apr 2026, 23:58#8

Ah but a fortnight ago the wacky woke set were celebrating the closure of the Straits…opening it is an insight as to who has the whip hand. You chaps keep betting against the team with a dominant pack,…and breaking news, an Israel/Lebanon cease fire.


It’s all going the way of the good guys.

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
17 Apr 2026, 05:55#9

If it was anyone but Trump, this would have been applauded... I'm not glad about the conflict, I would have preferred that they rather tried something else, but I've seen US presidents doing a lot worse for less worthy causes...

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
17 Apr 2026, 13:14#10

I'm not sure our Trumpanzees are grasping the fundamental point here.


Before Operation Epic Fail began, the Straits did not need to be opened or blockaded and there was no need for a ceasefire between Israel and Lebanon.


Also, before Bozo pulled out of the Obama deal in 2018, Iran were complying with the JCPOA where they limited enrichment and allowed inspections. It's only after Bozo pulled out of the deal (the only reason seeming to be that it was made by Obama) that Iran have enriched uranium close to weapons grade.


If Bozo hadn't pulled out of the original deal and had not launched Operation Epic Fail, the Straits would be open, ceasefires wouldn't be required and Iran would still have a more moderate Supreme Leader who was complying with the JCPOA and had no ambitions to build a nuclear weapon . . . and in fact had issued a fatwa against it.


Bozo has effectively spent $30 billion plus, destroyed more billions of dollars in infrastructure, sent the price of oil through the roof and taken countless lives just to reach a point where he would do very well to get back to the original deal.


How can any person with an ounce of intelligence think he's winning anything?


Seriously.

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
17 Apr 2026, 16:34#11

After the US pulled out in 2018 Iran assured the world that it would comply with the deal working with the European signatories….a deal that would in any case have fully sunsetted by 2030. But its actions were different. Under Biden’s non existent leadership this happened


Near-weapons grade

  1. April 2021 – Iran enriches to 60%, its highest ever Experts consider this “near weapons-grade” because:
  2. Weapons-grade ? 90%
  3. Going from 60% ? 90% is relatively fast compared to earlier steps.

4) Current capability (important nuance)

  1. By the mid-2020s:
  2. Iran has stockpiles of 60% enriched uranium
  3. Experts assess it could reach weapons-grade in weeks or months if it chose to



…….


So by the time Trump took action Iran had the centrifuges to build many bombs and a rapidly increasing stock of near weapons grade uranium, that only has one purpose:


Most nuclear experts and institutions say:

  1. 60% enrichment is far beyond civilian needs
  2. Power reactors need:
  3. ~3–5%
  4. Research/medical reactors (like Tehran Research Reactor):
  5. ~20% max

?? Therefore:

  1. 60% is not required for energy, medicine, or research
  2. It “far exceeds what’s needed for peaceful purposes”

Some analyses go further:

  1. There is “no realistic use” for 60% material in Iran’s program
  2. It is essentially near-weapons-grade material


………..


If Iran was not going to be allowed a nuclear weapon, there was no choice but to act in 2025. Underlined by the missile test, which blew up another Iranian lie, that they never had missiles with a range to reach targets over a 1000 miles away, Underlined by their willingness to attack their ME neighbors. Underlined by their centrifuges and near weapons grade uranium stockpile.


You can debate on how long they would have waited to do this if the Obama deal wasn’t set aside by Trump. Not long I think, because the Obama deal started to sunset in 2025.But every action they have taken since then says for them it was a pause and there was still a strong desire to have a nuclear weapon.


But whatever one decides about that, the situation in 2025 was not really debatable…you either stop them enriching, or at some point these very devious people were going to have a bomb. A collection of nuclear weapons dispersed through the country, potentially under the control of radical splinter groups, a recipe for disaster.


There was only one decision, which is succeeding as today’s news indicates….but the job still has to be finished.


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Xavi
Pro1,924 posts
17 Apr 2026, 19:22#12

"Before Operation Epic Fail began"


Iran was still the largest state sponsor of global terrorism using money paid to the mullahs by Obama to train, equip and fund the Houthis, Hamas and Hezbollah.





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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
17 Apr 2026, 19:33#13

Yes there are all the other arguments for reducing the capacity of the regime or better still, removing it. It’s sponsorship of terrorism, it’s closing of international waters, it’s torture and murder of its own citizens and it’s unilateral attacks on neighbors..

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sharkbok
Captain20,097 posts
17 Apr 2026, 20:03#14

So Trump tore up the 2018 Iran Nuclear deal (JCPOA) just to negotiate a similar nuclear deal in 2026.


All while spending:

  1. U.S $55 billion tax payer money,
  2. sending U.S soldiers to die, killing 178 school girls and 2,000 civilians in Iran,
  3. and sending the global economy into chaos.


But it's okay because he will celebrate ending a war he started on his truth social


  1. Iran's annual GDP revenue is $436.9 billion
  2. the Obama administration arranged the release or transfer of about $1.7 billion to Iran in 2016,


No one can guarantee that Iran will stop trying to create a nuke other than by wiping them off the map. They have nuclear sites hidden deep underneath mountains. At this stage, regardless of what ever deals gets signed - the status quote is worse than the Obama deal.


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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
18 Apr 2026, 00:29#15

So now after saying the war is unnecessary, you say the only way to stop them having a bomb is to wipe them off the map…and you clearly don’t support that. So by logical extension that means you are comfortable with them having a nuclear weapon. Thanks for clarifying.

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