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I would like to ask a question for Stav and CF to answer

Started by clevermike13 REPLIES786 VIEWS· 20 Dec 2022, 08:26
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Dec 2022, 08:26
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20 Dec 2022, 08:26#1

In the USA the FBI, the CIA and the DNC have weekly meetings with the media and internet platforms to make sure that reports that could have a negative impact on the Democratic Party are censored and false "reports" that undermine the Republican Party are leaked to the media.


My question is this - 


"If that happens in Ireland or New Zealand would it be regarded as undermining of Democracy and freedom of speech - in other words would it be criminal activity on the part of the participants?"


        

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
20 Dec 2022, 11:38
#2
20 Dec 2022, 11:38#2

In the USA the FBI, the CIA and the DNC have weekly meetings with the media and internet platforms to make sure that reports that could have a negative impact on the Democratic Party are censored and false "reports" that undermine the Republican Party are leaked to the media.

Link to evidence please.

Responding google it is not evidence.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Dec 2022, 17:25
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20 Dec 2022, 17:25#3

You would find out everything about it from Twitter - all proven facts and documents exposed.  Assume it is true - about which proven documents have been released as well.   I have no doubt about the documents being valid .    So what would your response be if the allegations are verified.     You can start by saying -  "If the above allegations are true .............


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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
20 Dec 2022, 17:53
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20 Dec 2022, 17:53#4

You would find out everything about it from Twitter

Oh for heavens sake's man. Either provide links to something backing up your claim or I'm not going to bother engaging with you.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Dec 2022, 18:17
#5
20 Dec 2022, 18:17#5

Twitter released and published documents confirming the above.   Try and read the document yourself on Twitter.   There were also 15 whistleblowers confirming the above in sworn reports and all hell is set to break loose when that is investigated by the House in January 2023.   However, a lot of documentation is already in the public domain.    

 I will repeat the above question when the House handle the investigation - fact is the media is totally quiet about the problem - but in the end they will try to cover up the illegal conduct involved.     

Zuckerman - who initially exposed what was going on - will; cover his arse by releasing troves of similar documents on the issue as well.    

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Dec 2022, 18:17
#6
20 Dec 2022, 18:17#6

Twitter released and published documents confirming the above.   Try and read the document yourself on Twitter.   There were also 15 whistleblowers confirming the above in sworn reports and all hell is set to break loose when that is investigated by the House in January 2023.   However, a lot of documentation is already in the public domain.    

 I will repeat the above question when the House handle the investigation - fact is the media is totally quiet about the problem - but in the end they will try to cover up the illegal conduct involved.     

Zuckerman - who initially exposed what was going on - will; cover his arse by releasing troves of similar documents on the issue as well.    

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Dec 2022, 06:04
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21 Dec 2022, 06:04#7

Stav

As per normal you are ducking and diving on this issue - let me think the Guardian did not write about the issue and hence it is not true.  And your co-conspiracy theorist CF is totally quiet on it.

I will keep on asking this question every month to see whether you are man enough to stand up and admit that the whole story of undermining the US Constitution is factual and has been the case since 2016 - when the Russian Hoax story was started by WH and Democratic Party concocted lies and you fell for it lock stock and barrel.   Not very wise of you then and not wise now.  


       

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
21 Dec 2022, 10:43
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21 Dec 2022, 10:43#8

I'm still waiting on you provide me a link to any evidence backing up your claim. You have made countless baseless claims on here before and never back them up with any evidence even when asked multiple times.

Pretty much 99% of what you say when it comes to politics or history for that matter isn't remotely credible and therefore not worth engaging with.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Dec 2022, 17:16
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21 Dec 2022, 17:16#9

When did I make countless baseless claims on site.   In the end whatever I claimed has always been turned out to be true.   However, I am not going to bother you now about it - but suggest you start watching the hearings of the House when people involved are placed under oath.     The Department of Justice will not charge liars under oath - since the Secretary for Justic himself lied about the accusation he made in a letter to  the FBI to investigate parents objecting to brainwashing of children in schools.   He called them Domestic Terrorists and when he was informed of the lie and insisted by the House Republicans and Senators that he made himself guilty of a criminal offense he ignored their letters..   

Incidentally the real issue is that the Democrats are trying to use Stalinist methods to incite children to hate their parents - it actively tried to destroy family life, while their own children does not go to Government Schools.    

       

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
21 Dec 2022, 18:54
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21 Dec 2022, 18:54#10

When did I make countless baseless claims on site.   In the end whatever I claimed has always been turned out to be true.

LOL...what reality do you live in?

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
21 Dec 2022, 19:36
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21 Dec 2022, 19:36#11

It was true you bought a wanking device at Clicks, the rest has been debunked as the usual BS

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
21 Dec 2022, 20:18
#12
21 Dec 2022, 20:18#12

Clickbait that will bite your b um

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Dec 2022, 21:43
#13
21 Dec 2022, 21:43#13

Stav

Just one thing - did you not support the Russian Hoax lies concocted by the WH, the DNC and he Clinton Foundation 100% and even recently questioned the Inspector General Report on the issue.  There never was ANY evidence of Trump and Putin collusion anywhere and you wer hundreds of times told it is total BS without any proof whatsoever.

Under oath not a single House member had any evidence to support the collusion claims - and then walked out and claimed they had evidence of collusion on TV and in the printed media.   The Mueller Special Counci found nothing - but the lies multiplied every day for five years.    If Trump was in fact guilty and evidence found on the issue I would have condemned him.    They found NO evidence they could use in Court and that was a fact.   The farcical lies went on for 5 years.

It now came out from written evidence that the FBI and CIA were part of the problem of undermining the US Constitution and even if the evidence hits you in the face you would never admit that you and others like SB were writing BS on site.   You believed totally what ther media told you to believe.  

The information coming out now is going to destroy many politicians and civil servants and they could end up in jail as a result.   Some of them are already in jail or charged with criminality and others will follow.    However, who is really in control in the USA - is it the politicians or the billionaires who submitted reports to the White house for implementation?  The whole present show is an exact replica of what happened under the Fascists where the ultra-rich controlled the politicians in Germany and Italy.    Biden and a lot of senior Democrats are totally corrupt and there are thousands of documents proving it - but the FBI refuse to investigate it - they are the protection agency of the Democrats.   

The first storm is going to break when the Republicans in the House refuse to approve funding of the FBI and CIA  and there is bugger-all the Biden Administration can do about it.   They will have to break down the structure of endemic corruption in the USA Government and start cleaning up the mess that started under Bill Clinton  and flourished under Bush and Obama.   When it became clear she may lose the 2016 election Clinton shouted at the DNC Chairman that Trump will string them all up if he wins the election.   The whole lie campaign against Trump was  based on the premise they must stop real investigation of how corrupt the whole US Government became.

                                      

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Dec 2022, 21:15
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22 Dec 2022, 21:15#14

Stav

The response of the FBI was that the whole issue is a conspiracy theory aimed at destroying the institution.  Nothing what happened was mentioned.   i  

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