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In the meantime this is of no interest:

Started by Mozart59 REPLIES1,082 VIEWS· 09 Jan 2021, 05:23
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Jan 2021, 05:23
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09 Jan 2021, 05:23#1
Ashli Babbitt, 35, was shot and killed in the Capitol Wednesday. (Courtesy of Timothy McEntee) By Jaclyn Peiser and Justin JouvenalJan. 7, 2021 at 4:17 a.m. CST

When a group of pro-Trump rioters stormed the Capitoland smashed windows on Wednesday, a woman jumped onto a pane and started through.

Seconds later, a gunshot rang out and the woman, who had a Trump flag tied around her waist, tipped back and fell onto the marble floor as blood spilled from her shoulder.

“They shot a girl!” someone yelled as the crowd ran out of the southeast entrance. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Jan 2021, 05:26
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09 Jan 2021, 05:26#2

If this was the other side the nation would have been  at a standstill today. Does Babbitt, an Iraq was veteran, matter less than others who have died at the hands of law enforcement? Apparently.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
09 Jan 2021, 06:07
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09 Jan 2021, 06:07#3

Do stupid criminal acts and thats the risk you run. Only a retard would think what she was doing carried no risks. 

No mention of the innocent cop that was just doing his job and was murdered I see, his life not worth anything to you obviously since he was killed by your side.

My sympathies are with him and his family not the criminal.

I see double standards are alive and kicking with you snowflake

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Jan 2021, 06:53
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09 Jan 2021, 06:53#5

Oh you mean criminal acts like shooting a taser at the police and running away? There is no evidence I have seen that this woman was a danger to anybody. 

The policeman who died is a hero, but that is widely acknowledged in this case....the woman who died apparently deserved her death....that was an act worthy of being shot. Sader obviously thinks so.

I’m just wondering why if police shootings are a concern, it’s not a concern in the case of this woman who served her country on foreign fields.

‘A law enforcement official told NPR that Babbitt was unarmed’.

The double standard is disgusting .

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Jan 2021, 07:45
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09 Jan 2021, 07:45#6

"The double standard is disgusting."

Indeed...compare this incident to George Floyd...or the bloke who got shot during the riots...I actually saw footage of Babbit being shot...looked like cold bloody murddr to me. It wasn't a stray bullet. She was shot point blank while climbing through a window. If she was black and from the left, America would be up in flames.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
09 Jan 2021, 10:41
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09 Jan 2021, 10:41#7

You're a sad pair of fools.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
09 Jan 2021, 13:27
#8
09 Jan 2021, 13:27#8

Are you're still more boring than a queue.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Jan 2021, 16:40
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09 Jan 2021, 16:40#9

"You're a sad pair of fools." 

I uppose you are with Sader? - She had it coming? What was she thinking climbing through that window?...she sure as well was put right back into her place, right? Her kind should put up and shut up!

I cry for every life lost...lefties AND right-wing-rednecks the same...we are all being played...but I suppose Only Black Lives Matter?

WTF is wrong with the world? Can't anyone see this isn't even close to normal? Orwell anyone?

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Jan 2021, 18:04
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09 Jan 2021, 18:04#10

Please explain to me how this girl's life is worth so much less than Floyd's. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Jan 2021, 18:36
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09 Jan 2021, 18:36#11

Explain yourself Blob ....if you have the guts, you usually cut and run. Why should the  concern that Draad and I have that this woman was needlessly shot qualify us as  a ‘ sad pair of fools’.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Jan 2021, 18:43
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09 Jan 2021, 18:43#12

We are racist rednecks. 

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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
09 Jan 2021, 19:39
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09 Jan 2021, 19:39#13
If someone was shot trying to breach Capitol it is probably a good thing, regardless of their ideology. 

This women's death does not bother me any more than a violent Black Lifes Matter protestors or Floyd trying to pass off counterfeit money and resisting arrest (before being stood on). 

They were committing crimes and paid the ultimate price. As was the case with the other person after Lloyd that was reaching into his car for a knife- and resisting arrest. 
Bombs were found in the Capitol, and some of the people wanted to hang Mike Pence and other politicians. At the time, who knows which ones are the least dangerous at the split moment in time. 
I am more concerned about the innocent police officer that died during the attempted insurrection. Also, the political leaders who had to endure the experience. 
If the violent elements of BLM and Proud Boys had a gunfight and they all died, it is no skin off my back. Or if a bank robber got killed etc, etc

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
09 Jan 2021, 20:51
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09 Jan 2021, 20:51#14

I thought the point of the thread was to highlight the difference in coverage of the killings.

Floyd was a martyr and Blake was a hero...and according to the media a great stain on America when they were killed.

How is CNN covering her death?

Is she also a hero and also a martyr?

I have not been watching the news but my spider sense says that words like terrorist, violent protester and insurrection where probably used. 

What if a POC was killed while trying to burn down the courthouse in Portland? Hero or terrorist?

You already know the answer.

And that answer tells you plenty about why Trump is supported and why the on ly fool here is the ever bland Lego Blokkie.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Jan 2021, 20:54
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09 Jan 2021, 20:54#15

So all the protestors trying to breach the capital or trying to get into the White House in the summer deserved to be shot, regardless of whether they were threatening anybody at the time. Well that’s a novel point of view.

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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
09 Jan 2021, 21:27
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09 Jan 2021, 21:27#16
Explosive devices, hangman nooses and a range of weapons were found on people. Some of them were chanting for Mike Pence to pay etc.

Who knows at the time which ones were peaceful protestors and which ones were not.
Especially if someone is trying to get into the building through a broken window. 
This woman served in the army and will know more than anyone of the risks of storming a government building with a mob. 
It is trespassing at best, and terrorism at worst.
Any armies job is to reestablish control and it is likely some people are going to get hurt in this process. 


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Jan 2021, 21:49
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09 Jan 2021, 21:49#17

Your logic would justify many acts of violence by authorities that have been rightfully condemned.....Tiananmen Square and Sharpeville for example. 

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
09 Jan 2021, 22:51
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09 Jan 2021, 22:51#18

I'm in total agreement with Crusader & Saarkie ........ eulogizing the death of a rioter who was involved in the violent siege on Capitol Hill whilst virtually ignoring the cowardly murder of a heroic cop ..... that's sad.

But calling mozart & Draad fools was wrong, I apologise ........... ' one-eyed bigots' is probably a better match.


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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
09 Jan 2021, 23:03
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09 Jan 2021, 23:03#19
Violence by the police and army can be investigated afterwards.
They are under instructions to secure the building and remove any threat from it. 
The army is trained to be in war zones and protect themselves and whoever is in the building and secure the area. A few shots ended the insurgence...  It could have been much worse with deaths of politicians, army and more of the terrorist protestors. 


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Jan 2021, 23:24
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09 Jan 2021, 23:24#20

Minimum and only necessary force is the modern view. To me Blob’s and your indifference to this veteran’s death is simply because she’s white and a Trump supporter. 

Most on the right condemned Floyd’s death and that of the taser shooter. A drug user who had threatened a pregnant woman with a knife vs a veteran who served her country on a dangerous tour of duty. But conservatives saw the principle involved with Floyd .....I have heard no voices questioning the security people in this instance.

Massive hypocrisy.

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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
10 Jan 2021, 00:07
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10 Jan 2021, 00:07#21



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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Jan 2021, 00:55
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10 Jan 2021, 00:55#22

‘We have come so Congress can do the right thing,  to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard’ 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Jan 2021, 03:25
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10 Jan 2021, 03:25#23

Noted Blob...really sorry you feel that way.


Shark, both the policeman and Babbit's were tragic unnecessary deaths....and totally unjustifiable. 

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
10 Jan 2021, 08:02
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10 Jan 2021, 08:02#24

I never said her death was justified, just pointing out that there are risks forcing your way into a (supposedly) secure government building defended by armed police (who's live were obviously under threat by the fact there were injuries and a death).

Why wasn't snowflake pointing out why isn't America burning because the cop was murdered, maybe because he supports her side so she was justified in her illegal actions where the nasty policeman was stopping her god given rights to break the law?


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Jan 2021, 09:28
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10 Jan 2021, 09:28#25

Ever heard of excessive force?

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
10 Jan 2021, 10:26
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10 Jan 2021, 10:26#26

Draad,

Don't be sorry that he swallowed the blue pill.

These twits are only to happy to soak themselves in white guilt.

It makes them feel superior to you when they attempt to take the moral high ground as defined by the MSM tailpipe that they can't stop sucking on.

Stand up for yourself. You know what you think in this regard, and so do I.

None of us support excessive force by C ops and we all hate Cops being killed too. Blo and his pals only try to make you feel like you're a biased bigot because it's their only refuge.

They choose moral arrogance over logic. Don't stand for it.


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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
10 Jan 2021, 11:56
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10 Jan 2021, 11:56#27

All I can say is Plum is Fuck off you moron, I don't have any white guilt to soak in.

Always find it amusing with you ultra right twats, if anyone steps off the party line by an inch then you are automatically a leftist pinko liberal supporter. Take beeno for example if you say one thing bad or make a joke about his god Chump then you are a democrat end of story.

For your info I am and have always voted for the right I just dont lean as far as you lot as I like to remain standing , you lot are so far right your permanently laying down.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
10 Jan 2021, 13:07
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10 Jan 2021, 13:07#28

Yeah yeah

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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
10 Jan 2021, 18:11
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10 Jan 2021, 18:11#29

Animals... This video appears to show the moment she was shot. (While trying to break a door down). 



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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
10 Jan 2021, 18:57
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10 Jan 2021, 18:57#30

Don't bother getting up Buttplug.

CFan put you down so hard on your weak little arse that it would just be embarrassing if you even tried to get up, Stupid, predicatable dolt!

I despise Bozo more than any person I know and I don't call myself a leftie. I may be very green politically (Trumpanzees actually call that red) but I have many conservative qualities and beliefs. 

I don't read or listen to any MSM. I used to enjoy following Bozo on Twitter (until the conceited and stupid buffoon got permanently banned - Jack 1575, Bozo 0) because there were so many great memes and hilarious put-downs but I still enjoy winding up Trumpanzees on Baboon-ou's favourite sites like the Gateway Pundit. I get both sides of the story . . . and trust me, websites like Breitbart, InfoWars, Gateway Pundit and the Echo are nothing short of pathetic . . . and anyone reading any of that delusional garb age and believing it or repeating it as if it's not just ultra-right propaganda is a fool in my book.

You get a real sense of how small-minded and brainwashed people like Baboon-ou, ButtPlug, Moffie, AJH, the Squeaky Toy and the other Trumpanzees are now as their idol and cult leader self-destructs to the extent that he's going to be the first "president" to be impeached twice and he may not complete his term (how great would that be) and these Kool-Aid swigging troglodytes have still not conceded defeat for Bozo, let alone the fact that the "rigged" or "stolen" election was the figment of Bozo's injured pride and naked narcissim and only believed by the most loyal of Trumpanzee cult members . . . the kind that would actually take Bozo's advice and storm the Capitol, then get photographed carrying Nancy Pelosi's stand . . . and then try sell it on Ebay. That's the level of intelligence we're dealing with here.

Only stupid people could have swallowed all Bozo's bullshit and some Trumpanzees are starting to realize it . . . but can't admit it because they'd be admitting they're stupid. Too hilarious for words. 

Bozo leaving the White House in the most embarrassing, humiliating and predictable manner possible . . . while his Trumpanzees stand there with drool dripping from their slack jaws . . . not sure whether to admit they were suckers or to defend Bozo's latest disgusting behaviour.

Even repulsive cowards like Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham have finally gotten it . . . heck, even Mike Pence has finally seen through the bluster, the lies and the greedy self-serving nature of the world's biggest loser.

But clearly Trumpanzee zealots like Moffie, ButtPlug and the Squeaky Toy still don't get it.

LMAO!

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
10 Jan 2021, 19:29
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10 Jan 2021, 19:29#31

Yawn. 

I tend not to follow people I don't like nor do I make post after post about them.

But then, I've never been consumed with unadulterated envy. 

Who knows, perhaps it's par for the course. 




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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Jan 2021, 19:45
#32
10 Jan 2021, 19:45#32

‘Get what’ you left leaning robot. You have been programmed from birth to hold the positions you hold. Before birth actually....right back to the little Welsh mining town your family escaped from. Anti English, anti authority....a left wing pawn.

So what are these right wing views I hold:

1 One human/one vote.

2 Free Speech

3 Zero discrimination because of color

4 A helping hand for those have fallen on hard times.. .not just from the government from me personally at more than 10% of my income.

5 Merit based and compassionate immigration but secure borders.

6 Respect for the police in the dangerous work they do.

7 Deploying the military only when it’s absolutely necessary.

8 Fostering capitalism as the best way to lift all boats.

9 A fair tax system which doesn’t tax income more than 40%....short term capital gains in the US which is what the left wants you to pay if you sell your house at a profit, taxes income at 46% with no offset for inflation.

10 A respect for the dignity of all people, not on a piece of paper, but in your life....with everybody you meet, especially those who make your life easier.

11 Gun ownership should be totally limited to sports equipment, no concealed weapons sold and certainly no automatic weapons.

12 All kids should grow up in families or extended families. No kid should be allowed to make a ‘sexual choice’ before they are at a responsible age.

13 Everybody should get taken care of when they are sick and have access to healthcare. That happens today and could be further improved if  the legal excesses driving out of line US medical costs are curtailed.

.......

There are many other principles but that’s a start. Trump has had a massively successful presidency in all the things that you can measure......jobs, wealth, border control, the ME, protecting military lives, the courts, vaccines....everything that’s concrete and actionable.

But he never won over half the country and in an election that was on a knife edge the Dems mail in voting tactics and the fact that half the country still believed the Russian lie, did him in. He lost the election many times.....in the press conferences on the virus and in the first debate where he was tone deaf for example.

And his failure to get re-elected underlines the old principle that once you are a leader, you have to be a leader of your whole constituency.

So we move on and the country will adjust, but it will remain the USA. The almost 50/50 vote shows despite the loud right and left wings.....the control rests in the middle.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Jan 2021, 19:58
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10 Jan 2021, 19:58#33
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Jan 2021, 20:00
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10 Jan 2021, 20:00#34

Indeed, I just can't understand why more people can't see it...and the rabid hatred for the man...it's not dislike, it's pure, unadulterated hatred.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Jan 2021, 20:04
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10 Jan 2021, 20:04#35
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Jan 2021, 20:10
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10 Jan 2021, 20:10#36
"I despise Bozo more than any person I know and I don't call myself a leftie." 
Says the closest Commie. ..
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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
10 Jan 2021, 22:54
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10 Jan 2021, 22:54#37



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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Jan 2021, 00:10
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11 Jan 2021, 00:10#38

I love the way these Germans and Austrians whose fathers our fathers fought to save decency are now lecturing us.....in the most juvenile terms. Face it Arnold couldn’t pass Matric.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
11 Jan 2021, 00:12
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11 Jan 2021, 00:12#39

I despise Trompie & I don't call myself a leftie either......... in fact during my lengthy residence in NZ (on the occasions that I chose to vote) I've never voted for the current ruling Labour Party..... if I lived in the UK my vote would be probably be Tory. Vok, I was never allowed to vote in SA, but I'm blue ....WP QPR MaggieT Dems.

Question for Trompie's fan club........... what's paramount, GOPism or Trumpism ?


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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
11 Jan 2021, 00:44
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11 Jan 2021, 00:44#40
Ah... so the real reason America fought the war was not for freedom but so Germany and Austria would never be able to criticize America again. Got it.




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