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Inside Dombass...that's why I'm here, Johnny Miller exposes what's really happening.

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SebPro2,680 posts
23 Mar 2023, 20:24
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23 Mar 2023, 20:24#1

No propaganda here...revealing documentary, the other side


Excellent eye opener Beeno and Mike.


https://youtu.be/1SOHOhPM-Vw

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 Mar 2023, 21:10
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23 Mar 2023, 21:10#2

The war has been lost by Nato. End if story. Given how it is weakening the the EU and causing more and deeper divisions I wonder if Putin will delay any offense in June/July. There could a break up of NATO when Russua wins. How Wil the Globalist media, spin all this.

We shall have to wait to see what happens and when.

I will post a clip, if I can fid it again, which takes about how China and Russia along with BRICS and SCO and countries seeking to join these groups are setting up their own word order. China Joe and his Globalist handlers are destroying the West.

President Trump can't get back into power fast enough. Get these traitors out and hang em high - after a fair trial of course. 

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SebPro2,680 posts
23 Mar 2023, 21:44
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23 Mar 2023, 21:44#3

Did you watch it, every one should... if you have the stomach for it...it is very shocking. It's done by independant journalists from USA, England, and Italy over 8 years.

https://youtu.be/1SOHOhPM-Vw

https://youtu.be/1SOHOhPM-Vw

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
24 Mar 2023, 07:02
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24 Mar 2023, 07:02#4

Glad to have this documentary in english. Most of the world media driven by the west is in english,truth is difficult to find in this frenzy.

We can easily go back to the 2nd World War and see the war in reality was mostly won by the Russian soldiers. Yes we had our soldiers in North Africa but without the pullback of Nazi's fighting against Russia we would never have gotten through Italy. 

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
24 Mar 2023, 07:35
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24 Mar 2023, 07:35#5

Load of bollocks is what it is. .............. online for 2 weeks & boasts a total of 516 views, ffs. that total's family & friend size, we get more hits on Ruckers!

A pisspoor lying propaganda exercise at best .

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
24 Mar 2023, 08:09
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24 Mar 2023, 08:09#6

Carry on listening to Hollywood media and the war was over last year....rather listen to these individual journalists....the real men and women....not woke rubbish.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Mar 2023, 08:19
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24 Mar 2023, 08:19#7

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How do we know - we are fed propaganda by bot sides in the War and propaganda is always bad.  

i do not buy anything on either side - that was why I query the casualty figures on both sides,   I also do not accept the story - of which there is no proof - that Russia wants to conquer Ukraine and make it part of the imaginary empire tat some members repeat on site.   In fact that is what  the Russians agreed on when it is staed in 2 agreements that the Ukrain2015  borders  will not be violated. 

There are in part of the video which is proven by fact.   The USA organized and funded the couop in 2014 and afterwards decided on who should be in the interim Government  that would rule in Ukraine.   The US assistant Secretary of State under Obama was stupid enough to confirm the latter on a video.   So the USA helped causing the Civil War in 2014 and that Civl War never ended.

As to the rest of the video I think one should be careful from taking art in a propaganda war.      

   

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
24 Mar 2023, 08:58
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24 Mar 2023, 08:58#8

Why the invasion?

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SebPro2,680 posts
24 Mar 2023, 09:55
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24 Mar 2023, 09:55#9

How utterly brainless to use views as proof of actual to use popularity at your own peril, that's part of the bigger problem,thicky this is 100% authentic, know people there...turning a blind eye to what's actual is the most frightening aspect it all that's precisely the problem.

These are independant, western journalists and reporters who risk their own welfare and even lives with no political motives or financial reward,very brave. Thank God for that...they have integrity and conscience, want the truth and are doing humanity a huge service. You are either a no where man , who just sees what he wants to see at the expense of good or you are just plain stupid.

Do you know the difference between invasion and intervention, obviously not. The coup d'etat was in February 2014, this has being going on since.

If there was no intervention it would go on forever, the genocide of Russian people.

If you allow your emotions to rule you without bothering to study the background history of it all, not from western propaganda but reliable, non political sources.

Get off your butt, sluggard and do your home work instead of regurgitating parrot fashion exactly what western weaponising propaganda sets out to achieve...in this they have been too successful indoctrinating the sheeplike tendancies of non-thinking people without soul.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Mar 2023, 10:23
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24 Mar 2023, 10:23#10

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I think from what I have read that there were some really major problems in Ukraine that influenced the invasion.   When the USSR was  going there was an agreement that NATO will not allow membership of previous USSR states - but that was done in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania with stable demcoratic Governance and substantial Russian communities  -  Russia objected whn it happened - but did nothing about the issue.

In th case of Ukraine the 2014 coup resulted in destruction of the Ukraine constitution and that caused the civil war in the Dombas region.   In any event the civil war dragged on and thousands of people - mostly those who were Russian speakers died as a result.    There were allegedly ethnic cleansing under way in Ukraine and since there was no constitution let inm the country and it became in Ukraine a war on all Russian-speaking people in Ukraine.   \Ukraine is at present a dictatorship led by people with a dubious agenda - so maybe that influenced the Russians as well.    

Be it as it may - Russia thought it was a client state of the USA Government in Ukraine and Biden the week before the war openly bragged that there will be a war in Ukraine aimed at the removal of the Russian Government and in particular Putin from power and that posed a threat to Russia.    That was considered by Russia as a threat to their existence  a country.   The threat was in particular attached to biolabs the USA Government was operating in Ukraine.   The USA denied the existence of the Labs - but it was in subsequent hearings under oath admitted by the US Government that they do exist.

As from 2019 the situation became serious and there is proof that the Nazi-orientated Aov Brigade  was let loose on Russian speaking people living in areas under Ukraine Government control and they specialized in murdering and putting suh people in camps.    Be it as it may -the Ukraine denied that it happened yet thousands died as a result.   That could be debated - but that ws not my main doubt on the issue.

32% of the population of Ukraine has Russian as home language in 2019  the Ukraine despite objections of the EU - introduced a system banning Russian from using and teaching Russian in Ukraine schools.   That was confirmed as factual.   The situation gradually deteriorated  but reached its peak when all Russian speaking members of the Ukraine Parliament was arrested by the Ukraine Government.   That happened despite the fact that the relevant Parliamentarians voted with the present Government of Zelenskyy against a potential  invasion by Russia.    That was soon followed by Zelenskyy banning all opposition parties in Ukraine. and the attacks on the areas not under Ukraine control came under attack by the Ukraine army on a virtual daily basis.   

Although I condemned the invasion from the start  - the Ukrainians were not the  innocent babies pretended by the West and there were some real security threats to Russia.     Were the security threats enough reason for the invasion is a debatable point.                           

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