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Interesting Bill Browder tactical suggestion

Started by Mozart8 REPLIES328 VIEWS· 21 Oct 2025, 22:55
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Oct 2025, 22:55
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21 Oct 2025, 22:55#1

He has identified a small group of 8 Chinese, Indian and Turkish refineries that have refined $ 400 billion of Russian oil since the start of the Ukranian war. According to Browder if these refineries were put on a no trade list, the effect would be dramatic. This wouldn’t be a sanction on the whole country, just these refineries. He suggests the refineries would likely choose the West and while the Russian crude would still get sold, not to the current best customers and at less than half the current price.


Perhaps it would work, perhaps only in part with China hanging tough….but it does show how vulnerable an economy reliant on one commodity really is. Suggesting this war goes on because Putin doesn’t want it to stop and because the world has not been serious about making him pay,

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sharkbokCaptain20,097 posts
21 Oct 2025, 23:45
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21 Oct 2025, 23:45#2

The Russian "energy" economy has to be damaged so that its "war" economy collapses.


Negotiations with Putin are pointless because he just offers something unacceptable, and he would just go back on the agreement anyway.


Oil is expected to decrease in price during 2026, so it would certainly make sense to up the sanctions on oil. If alternative energy sources were available at the same or a lower cost, it would be the end of Russia. 40% of their economy is energy, and that does not include another 20% or so from the downstream effects of this.


They have natural assets because they are such a big country, but other than the main cities like Moscow and St Peterburg, it seems like a barren wasteland. If the economy crashed totally, Russia could end up being split into more countries. Something China probably would like.


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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
22 Oct 2025, 01:35
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22 Oct 2025, 01:35#3

Having the POTUS in his backpocket helps immeasurably.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
22 Oct 2025, 01:40
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22 Oct 2025, 01:40#4

vgb

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
22 Oct 2025, 13:14
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22 Oct 2025, 13:14#5

The main problem of the OP is the denial of the trade dispute happening between Russia and the liberal world. The liberal world is stuck in the days they could organise the rest of the world for their own benefits. Now it is clear that the rest of the world is organising itself and in a way that is leading to the marginalisation of the liberal world.


Liberals have still that dream Russia will be satisfied being contained to be a mere provider of natural resources when the Russian trade interests have made it clear they wanted much more.


This suggestion is very unlikely to fail.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Oct 2025, 14:31
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22 Oct 2025, 14:31#6

BB


Having the POTUS in his backpocket helps immeasurably


Sick statement from a batshit brain. While the Auoen Presidncy put sanctions against Russia in place - they were breaching those sanctions every day. So why not say


Having the Autopen in his backpocket helped immeasurably

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Oct 2025, 22:55
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22 Oct 2025, 22:55#7

And the US just announces strong sanctions on Russia’s oil industry. Not quite as targeted as Browder suggested, but the same theme.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
22 Oct 2025, 23:18
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22 Oct 2025, 23:18#8

Hopefully Melania tells her beloved Batshit about yet another kindergarten bombed & more innocent children murdered.


But there's this to consider :

What decent democratic leader would ever post a video of themselves shitting on peaceful protesters?”

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
23 Oct 2025, 05:16
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23 Oct 2025, 05:16#9

If the economy crashed totally, Russia could end up being split into more countries. Something China probably would like.



That is mere projection. China has had border disputes with Russia but has never been an existential threat to Russia.


The existential threat for Russia has always come from the west and liberal countries are very keen on splitting various entities to make their business of extorting the weak and farming the poor easier.


DJT reminded it lately with his statement that the EU was created to screw the US when in fact the EU was created to prevent the US from screwing European countries.


Liberal countries have deep interests in splitting Russia in multiple entities. It is more likely China will fight any attempt from liberals to split Russia.

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