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Is Starmer a reasonable UK Prime Minister?

Started by clevermike11 REPLIES775 VIEWS· 17 Sept 2024, 11:00
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Sept 2024, 11:00
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17 Sept 2024, 11:00#1

After years of Conservcatie irresponsible BSters as Prime Minister - Starmer had a reasoable chancce of making a difference when he became Prime Minister with a record of number o seats won.

The key elements of he new Govenment was and is to stop malpractices in Gvernment and improve he living conditons of te voters,    A key problem was the effective Open Border policy of the Democrats in the USA anxd the conservaive in the UK  inherited by Starmer.  

Four months later Starmer already proved he is no improvmeent  on what the useless Conservative Party prime ministers did.   Fact is after only three months in power his personal popularity level has dropped by 36% and he solved nothing.   He has gone on a rather open attack on freedom of speech and news censorship is also supported by Starmer.   He seem to be following the Biden disaster to the T.   


Seems to me he is  trying to help everybody bar the ultra-let in teh Labor Party.   So how long is he oing t last as Prime Minsiter?.    


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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
17 Sept 2024, 11:39
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17 Sept 2024, 11:39#2

A key probem was he effectie Open Border policy of the Democrats ihrited by Sarmer.  

The UK does not have an Open Border policy. It never did, no country does,  

For months later Starmr already proved he is no improvmeent  on what the useless Conservative Party prime ministers did.   Fct s after only three months in power his peonal ppularity evel ha droppe by 36% and hesolved nothing. 

Are you saying he's been in power 4 months or 3 months, either way your wrong, UK election wasn't even two months ago. To top that off the UK parliament was on summer recess from July 30th to September 2nd, so no legislation could of been passed in that time anyway. 

Yet somehow you think that's enough time to judge if Starmer is a reasonable PM?

His popularity has indeed dropped largely down to Labours intention to change the winter fuel allowance to be mean's tested an unpopular move in general and probably also to do with with the his rather dour gloomy outlook Labour is projecting. Starmer's speech in the Rose Garden was described as having the feel of a undertaking giving an obituary on the UK economy. But its largely irrelevant that he's unpopular so earlier into his term as Labour has a stonking big parliamentary majority.  Labour are going having to make many unpopular calls and the conventional wisdom is best get the unpopular decisions out of the way earlier in the term of a new government.   

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becsPro4,378 posts
17 Sept 2024, 13:45
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17 Sept 2024, 13:45#3

Starmer is hopeless and his approval rating has plummeted amongst those who voted for him. 

He is a true Socialist. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Sept 2024, 14:14
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17 Sept 2024, 14:14#4

Well - his personal popularity dropped badly and if that keeps happening he is going to be the next target of the Labor Party for disposal.

A Government is no functional only when Parlimanet is in session.    For the first ime we see how the Englsh are in turmoil about Starmer's actions are adding to it..   When Governments loses control of what is happening in countries they end up in the gutter - like already happened in the rest of Europe and is bound to happen in the USA and Canada.

In  time when the democratic world needs strong leadership - all they have at present is ultra-left idealogues  and useles idiots in charge.  I was hoping for better from Starmer - but he is as clueless as his prececessors were .                 

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
17 Sept 2024, 14:48
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17 Sept 2024, 14:48#5

I think the winter fuel allowance definitely had a large impact on his popularity dropping so badly, but I also think his selective response to the riots also hurt his ratings

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
17 Sept 2024, 15:29
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17 Sept 2024, 15:29#6

Starmer needs time. I would rather have him running the country that some out of touch royal family loyalists that just use politics to lobby.

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becsPro4,378 posts
17 Sept 2024, 16:13
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17 Sept 2024, 16:13#7

Ha ! The Labour Party never lobby then, Sharkbok ?!! 

As for Sir Kier, his approval rating is slipping further because he and his wife have taken loads of money from a big Labour donor for buying clothes and even his new glasses. I mean, really. As if they don’t have the money to clothe themselves. 

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
17 Sept 2024, 16:37
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17 Sept 2024, 16:37#8

I dont know why any donors are allowed to give money directly to politicians instead of through the party.
Why not ban the practice, and even limit the size of political donations to prevent billionaires from controlling politicians?

While corruption exists on the left, it is surely worse on the right.
However, these donations/bribes etc etc should end - it undermines Democracy. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Sept 2024, 20:05
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17 Sept 2024, 20:05#9

Wrong = it has nothing to do wth election funding and everything to do with CORRUPTION witha standard fee of 15% 

*    Advising the "beneficiaries" on how to get around legislation  tehey themslves compiled ad approved - very profitable;

*    Any contract entered into by the US Government owned and controled by corrupt "re-inbursement" of politicians and bureaucrats.

The parties involved know that type of corruption willneve nbe investoated  becasue of the skeleons in the cupboard of the corrupt.  They know abou enough of each others corruption activities/

The sitution deterioraed badly since 1992 and at present the scenari is as folows:

*     Houe members      -           Democrats   72%     -    Republicans          32%

*     Senators                 -           Democrats   92%     -     Republicans         10%

*     Bureaucrat Managment                         100%

The longe members are ib poltics the more corrupt they beome.   The younger gneration members has not become involved yet,       

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Sept 2024, 21:14
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17 Sept 2024, 21:14#10

Incredibly having started the string Clever has suddenly switched from the UK to the USA. Maybe a brief power surge affecting the wanker?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Sept 2024, 06:36
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18 Sept 2024, 06:36#11

Mozart 

Go and  clear the shit out of your brain.   I was not aware of any donor problem which SB raised and responded in kind on it. clearly stating that I am not aware of the legal situuation in the UK and the EU countries, but know how legal problems were curtailed by the Election Commitee in the USA,

You missed out on the scandal about Congress members becoming involved in "Consulting" on how to circumvent the laws Congress passed.    Trump could not wipe it out because some leading  Republican Senators were invoved as well and they would side with the Democrats.

Trump also became aware of he massive amount of cash transferred to Ukraine and other countries and ordered the Treasury and State Department to work out proceses in 2019 to cut out the kick-back problems/   It was after that when the crooked kickback receivers Pelosi and Schiff found themselves being short-charged and they came out with the fake mpeachment charges.

The cash transfers of money to Ukraine became a severe problem.    There were unlimited corruption on both sides - ie in Ukraine and in the USA.   For instance in the case of arms deliveries by September 2022  in a Senate hearing the US Defense Department  admitted that only 30% of he arms delivered to Ukraine reached the fighting army in Eastern Ukraine,   The UDF in the hearing sent a colonel to Kiev to co-ordinat  arms delivery and aftewards they sent 200+ soldiers to "guard" the embassy - in other words total BS.   The soldiers sent was to work under the colonel to ensure ams delivery to the fightng army.

Another scam was that  3 days after the Russian invasion past an allocation  of $1 billion for "structural" support and three days late Pelosi and Schiff went to Ukraine to deal  with the usage of the $1 billion.   Investigations afterwards revealed that there was money from the $1 billion was invesed in FTX - at that stage promoted by the World Economic Forum as an deal ivesmnt opportunity and tatis where the $1 billion went.   In the 2022 midterm elecion FTX donated $70 million to the DNC to fund the Democratic Party election campaign - making FTX the second biggest donor to the Democrat campaign after Soros hose dnmation amounted to $158 million.    FX also provided $350 000 to Senator Romney's  Committee to fund the election of the  so-called Indepedent Senate candidate - in fact a Democrat  agent - in the Utah Senate election in 2022 running against Senator Lee who represented the Republican Party as official cadidate,     The above donations were confirmed by the Election Cmmittee,.

Trump also found out te rackets going n and the15% kickback operations rife in armaments purchases in the USA,    When he waned new vesion planes for the US Air Force and undertook peribal negotiations with the company concerned.   During the meeting concerned Trump asked the quoation per plane delivered and they claime the cost would be  $2,4 billion per plane and then Trump aftewards offered them $1,5 billion per plane and it became clear that a higher price was decided on.   What.came out clearly was the 15% kickbacks was left out and the price decided on was just about $2 billion a plane.

All the efforts of Trump to clear up the corruption mess was cancelled out when Biden took over and the corruption fun returned in full force.    An ulra-liberal was so upset about it that he openly stated that he stopped counting the number of luxuy homes built in Washington sububs since the start of the Ukraine War by kick-back recipients .    So  enjoyhe BS that you and others have to cover the most corrupt war in US history.

That is why the hate campaign of the Democrats is in full swing to try and ensure Trump does not win  the upcoming election - the corrupt will end up in jail - the cost of constructing a jail for corrupt politicians and bureaucrats would be very high since the crooks stole money from the public and  there incarceraion  in rdinaryprisons would be thend of heir criminal lives.

By the way the Mar-el-Lago raid by the FBI resulted in seizure of 32 boxes of documents by the FBI,   When Trumps lawyers asked the Judge to rule that all the seized documents should be made available for inspection by the defense  the judge ruled in their favor and Smith and tthe FBI returned 21 boxes of documents and even in those boxes were missing  documents - which annoyed the judge concerned and she gave Smith - who laid he charges - and the FBI to deliver all the documents within a month and suspended  court hearings until all documents taken was returned the court.

When that did not happen the Judge threw out the case and  ruled that Smith was illegally appted by the Biden regime,   So what wss in those 11 boxes of documents that the State and FBI would not provide to court?    Have fun figuring that mess out//

Happy Corruption Day to you BSter.                   .                .                            .        ,               

                  

                 

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
18 Sept 2024, 18:38
#12
18 Sept 2024, 18:38#12

Bump above Beeno BS

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