It's definitely not about NATO!

It's never been about NATO, right?

Trump is Hitler, and Putin is Hitler...we're all Hitler...yaaaaaaay!

Russel Brand is certainly an authoritative figure in the world, someone you can bet the house on...A conspiracist fool, more like

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That clown was plugging the Ukrainian bio weapons lab theory. His takes on the Ukraine war are as about as credible as Mikes.

Not sure I'd call Russell Brand a clown. The word "clown" implies at least some kind of humour.

So...it really isn't about NATO?

Rooi, don't know if you read, but Stav is a gamer and says he wants to play Starcraft against you

So...it really isn't about NATO?

Well it partly was.

NATO was never a threat a security threat to Russia. There was precisely zero chance NATO was every going to attack Russia unless in self defense.

What NATO did was prevent Russia from being able to coerce and control eastern and central European countries. That's the actual problem Putin has with NATO.

Stav

You must be ilving in Cloud Cuckoo Land. In 1991 thee was an agreement reached that Russia would withdreqw teir troops from what was then the Wazaw Pact countries and thta those countries future is being guaranteed - provided they do not become NATO members,

By 1991 it was also agreed that none of the newly independent countries gaining indepedence from the late and unlamented USSR would become members of NATO - but that agreement as breached when Latvva, Estonia and Lithuania became NATO members, Russia did object and did nthin g about it ffrom an real perspective. Reason was that although all the th ree countries had subnstantial Russian people living in those countries were guaranteed by their constitutions and all three countries was neve heaten by Russia at all,

However - Ukraine as a different case according to the USA. In 2013 abn election was held and ekements in Western Ukraine wa unhappy about the election outcome and saw a way in which they USA could use Ukraine directly to undermine Russia, In the period September 2013 the then head of te CIAS travelled to Kiev four times delivering money o the US Emassy in Ukraine to fund the protests and when in January 2014 turned bloody when memebrs of a orivate army opeed fire on the Police controlling the crowd and the President at the ime decided to leave Ukraine in the hope that a new Government ould lead t retention of peace in Ukraie - but the USA had other plans for total comtrol of the Government in Ukraine and then decided who should be the future leaders ni Ukraine would be - they picked members of the Bandera Orgnizarion whose main hatred was all rhings Russian and since Ukraine discarded totally the 1991 Constitution. That caused the start of the Civil War in Eastern Ukraine

Obama put Biden as VP in charge of all issues perttaining to Ukraine and he and other US top poitcins like Clinton, Biden, Pelosi amd Schiff saw real kick-back prosjects and the others benefited from - especially flourished since Ulraiee is the most corrupt country and much of what was paoi over wa eve used for the purpoe it was required, Since some policians im Ukraine was such specialists tany tome as good as US counterparts were;

That they were quilty became public knowledge at the time and the fact is that Biden himself in hte end "pardoned the main culprots and his family of crimes committed the period .bde listed from 1 Januat 2014 and Dember 2024. Reason - the House found evidence of involvemet in stealing grant funding from Washington through backhanders, If anybody Ukraine doffer from them the thrat was with hoding of Gant Funding from Ukraine so obediance was 100%

You are wrong about the bio-labs as well. When questioned in the Senate the Deputy Secretary of State admitted there were Bio-labs in Ukraie and a string of excuses for existence follows = all of them to be lies,

While she was a DP House Member must have jbiwb what was happening and after the admission mentioned tha there were at least 26 operational bio-labs in Ukraine, Those bio-labs were funded and conrolled by grant fundin g ti Ukraine, Other evidence was documents foud in labs in which was an instruction to destroy all pathogens should Russian trops enter the areas wherebio-labs were.

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more tripe from DumbMike...

Has it ever occurred to this fool that the reason countries want to be in NATO is to prevent Russia from attacking them and trying to take over their countries?

So it is, but it also isn't NATO?

Well, I'll be damned!

as time passes stavASS shows himself to be an ignorant loon of note.

Under Secretary of State Victoria Nuland admitted in a Congressional hearing they had bio labs in Ukraine. There text messages found where it showed she had chosen the Ukraine cabinet weeks before the coup took place that ousted the pro Russian President.

There is zero evidence Russian wants to take over Europe. There is massive evidence that NATO has expanded eastwards despite promising not to do so.

Clowns like sharkTWIT best zip it until they do some real research. Until then be guided by Mike and Beeno who have the facts and evidence.