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Ivanka Trump used personal emails for White House business . . .

Started by Rooinek18 REPLIES598 VIEWS· 20 Nov 2018, 09:37
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
20 Nov 2018, 09:37
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20 Nov 2018, 09:37#1

According to this article, Ivanka Trump used a personal email account to send hundreds of messages discussing official White House business last year.

LMAO!

When Hillary Clinton did the same thing, Bozo called it a scandal "bigger than Watergate" and claimed it put the US in danger. Bozo and his Trumpanzees have been calling for Hillary to be locked up ever since her email scandal.

Hmmmmm . . . I wonder if Bozo will be as vociferous when it's his dumb blonde daughter doing the same thing?

Watch this space!

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Nov 2018, 13:31
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20 Nov 2018, 13:31#2

Rooinek

I read the article with interest and found there is very little comparisons  between what Clinton as Secretary of State did insofar as official Government business is concerned - especially when the following is borne is concerned:-

 

On Monday, The Washington Post reported that while Ms Trump's emails contained mostly logistical and personal information, some may still have been in violation of federal records rules.

A Trump administration official told CBS News that Ms Trump's emails did not contain classified information, and what had occurred was basically a lack of understanding of the rules.


I think that the above is to be a storm in a teacup.  I would not make much out of that one.   Unlike Clinton Ivana Trump is not in Government employ and was not the most senior Secretary in the US Government.    One should clearly realize the difference.  

 

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
20 Nov 2018, 14:22
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20 Nov 2018, 14:22#3
"Unlike Clinton Ivana Trump is not in Government employ . . ."
Yes ou Maaik, you are right. Ivana Trump is not in Government employ but her daughter, Ivanka Trump, is an official government employee in the role of presidential advisor. As such she is subject to all the ethics and rules of other federal employees.
Quite what a spoilt and vacuous handbag merchant can advise anyone on is unclear, but she is a government employee and she has access to classified information.   
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Nov 2018, 15:55
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20 Nov 2018, 15:55#4
But never sent classified information........a storm in a tea cup. Actaully excited by the latest Huff Post damp squibb.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Nov 2018, 07:37
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21 Nov 2018, 07:37#5

Roinek

Who is paying Trump's daughter - as far as I understand it she is paid by her father - not the US Government.  

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
21 Nov 2018, 08:46
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21 Nov 2018, 08:46#6
Ou Maaik, she's an unpaid government employee. She's subject to all the same rules regarding emails and classified information.
I'm not hearing many Trumpanzees shouting "lock her up" like they did when Hillary did the same thing.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Nov 2018, 14:23
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21 Nov 2018, 14:23#7

No - sorry there is no similarity in the to cases of Trump's  wife and daughter and the case o Clinton.   Neither Trum's are Government employees and get no payments from the US Government.   As such - both in fact work as part of  Trumps personal team of asasistants.

Clinton was the most senior of the Secretaries of the US  Government  and dealt with many highly confidential; issues such as the Benghazi attacks, which was also on Clinton's personal computer.

I also criticize Trump at times - but to go down to the level of same newspaper reports discredits  the  good case you may have.       

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
21 Nov 2018, 14:37
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21 Nov 2018, 14:37#8
Ou Maaik, you're wrong. Ivanka Trump is a government employee. There's no point continuing this if you can't accept that fact.
This is from Wikipedia:
"After advising her father in an unofficial capacity for the first two months of his administration, she was appointed Advisor to the President, a government employee, on March 29, 2017. She takes no salary."
Now if you have some proof or a link that contradicts or disproves that then put it up.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 Nov 2018, 18:38
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21 Nov 2018, 18:38#9

Maaik, technically she is a US Government employee...and technically she broke the rules and she should not have used personal communication, and regardless of where her private e-mail server is located, she's in the wrong...but she can't be accused of mishandling classified information and she did not compromise any undercover operatives...funny how the media wants to equate the two... Funny how they can't see the huge difference. A hidden agenda maybe? Nooit!!!

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Nov 2018, 20:04
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21 Nov 2018, 20:04#10

I did not look carefully enough at the article - but Governments cannot appoint somebody and pay her NO salary.   It is forbidden by labour legislation worldwide - especially in an advanced country like the US.

But accept it as stated = she have posted personal and related things on the site and a few other bits which may be problematic - since it may indicate family movements  which could be a security risk.  

 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 Nov 2018, 20:26
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21 Nov 2018, 20:26#11

Maaik, technically yes, practically they are blowing smoke up their own arses and softening the impact of the new answers Hillary have to answer about her emails...again... I know.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
21 Nov 2018, 21:15
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21 Nov 2018, 21:15#12
. . . and in true Trumpanzee style, it becomes an issue of Hillary's emails rather than an admission that the vacuous unqualified bimbo did exactly the same thing.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
22 Nov 2018, 15:08
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22 Nov 2018, 15:08#13

Rooi, the difference is in the CLASSIFIED content of Hillary's mails.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
22 Nov 2018, 15:25
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22 Nov 2018, 15:25#14
How do you know that Crooked Ivanka's emails weren't classified?
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
22 Nov 2018, 17:50
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22 Nov 2018, 17:50#15

I don't , and but if it was, she should be prosecuted.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
22 Nov 2018, 18:14
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22 Nov 2018, 18:14#16
I see. So when you say "the difference is in the CLASSIFIED content of Hillary's mails" it may not actually be a difference at all, you're just guessing. 
Makes me wonder why you bothered responding at all in that case . . . but okay then . . .
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Nov 2018, 18:27
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22 Nov 2018, 18:27#17

Rooinek

I looked at what the Washington Post wrote - not really a newspaper friendly to the RP. They wrote clearly as follows:-

"On Monday, The Washington Post reported that while Ms Trump's emails contained mostly logistical and personal information, some may still have been in violation of federal records rules."

In other words it refers to some being in violation of federal records rules.   That is hardly a  violation of any law and nobody would take the matter to court.  Clinton did violate the law in the case of 72 documents and  there is a clearcut case for prosecution  - but nobody would like to jail her at the age of 70.   Imagine doing that with a former First Lady of the US.     

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
22 Nov 2018, 18:42
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22 Nov 2018, 18:42#18
". . . but nobody would like to jail her at the age of 70."
I wouldn't be too sure, ou Maaik. I can think of at least one dull-witted Trumpanzee fundamentalist who would like nothing more than to see Hillary locked up . . . in fact he's been predicting it's about to happen for some years now.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Nov 2018, 07:04
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23 Nov 2018, 07:04#19

Rooinek

I have criticized Trump in the past and supported Cruz as RP candidate - but when it comes to criticism I keep it real and not going wild about press stories.

There is a problem and that is that many in the USA has been suffering years of neglect - while the US Government oversaw the moving of industry to other countries with cheaper labour costs and that caused the malaise in US politics today.  I am afraid that the Senate results indicated that Trump is certain to get another term as President.

I distrust the major media as well - since I have yet to find a media outlet that does not serve an agenda of their own, normally influenced by their capitalist owners.   

The other problem is that even a newspaper like the Sunday Times became a tool of Zuma and co to mislead the public and they had  after years admitted that they were wrong in allowing crooked stories to be published without checking facts.   

So in essence  I do not believe what is being touted about and think on a wider basis as to what actually is happening around the world.    Years of experience has taught me to be careful when analyzing anything and look deeper and not be superficial.    


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