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JD Vance’s cousin who served in Ukraine speaks out

Started by bobbok...9 REPLIES651 VIEWS· 19 Mar 2025, 23:29
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
19 Mar 2025, 23:29
#1
19 Mar 2025, 23:29#1

xcvbn

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Mar 2025, 02:08
#2
20 Mar 2025, 02:08#2

VDS

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Mar 2025, 10:51
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20 Mar 2025, 10:51#3

Are you talking about a Asov Batallion member here? How is he related to Vance? Is this anher iddiot who do no realize what is going on reality?


Those people who wants the war to continue is plain idiots. There are much wider issues at play here, The fact is that strategically BS. The main situaion is that Rssia is being driven by idiots t join China - the real enemy of the USA and democracies worldwide and one has o go abc to what Kissinger said in the 1970's and to the end of his life, He stated that he worst hing is for the USA and the rest of democracies worldwide is an alliance beteen Russia and China and would eb adisaster in foreig n poliy fo the USA.


That is wy and TRump clearly stated show is happening a present and part of the issue is to sop the present trend themming from the Ukraine War where Ukraine is a proxy war of the USA against Russia, I think in the end the solution is to stop this proxy war and bring the Russians back to better relationship with the west than with China. That is the broader perspective and the idea by he fake media that present engotiations is going to throw Ukraine under rhe bus is BS and idiotic on a supreme level. That wa is going o end wihin the next week wiha ceasefire being agreed on within the next weekend,


I think there are two issues here. The one is that since there are two territory issues here that is probably going to be a key issue that is going to be resolved here, The first one is whether Ukraine will lose some territory a resut of a peace settlement and the issue is that in 2014 after the cour a civil wa broke out and part of the rebe held area was never governed from Kiev since then. Since the 2022 invasion Ukraine lost conmtrol og 20% of its terrotiry st present occupi by Russian Forces. Of the 20% Ukraine is likely to lose control of about 15 % of the occupied territory and get back 85% of the lost territory they lost since 2022. Part of the Donetsk and Lusanka areas an a strip of land along the borders of Russia will entail that 15% loss, while the Crimea was never an issue at the Minsk ageement in 2015, It is not and never was part of he 2015 Minsk agreement and will remain part of Russia remaisn part of Russia after the 2014 referendum. Criea was never really controled by Ukraine and was the main reason why Obama and Biden got invovled in Ukraine, In e=any event there is no way that Ukraine can even claim control of the Crimea - i was an accommodation reached in terms of the 1991 Ukraine Constittion and when the Constitution was unilaterally abandoned in 2014 that ended the Crimea being a part of Ukraine,


That strip of land I refer to will give Russia land access to the Crimea. That strip will include Mariopol and Melitopol and for the rest a rural area. 3,5 million woman and children was removed from Eastern Ukraine for their own safety and is now in Russia in much safer environments amd will return to the area of Eatern Ukraine that never was part of the area Governed by Ukraine since 2014. For the reast Ukraine will get the lost territory back - that is teh area lost by Ukraine in 2022 and subsequently. Oher sisues like the closing of US operated bio-labs in Ukraine will also be closed and Ukraine will not become a member of NATO, That is what I amke out to be the case of a pece sttlement based on comments by senior US representatives invovled in the negotiations. The oher part is US sponsoring private sector development in Ukraine and improveent of life for Ukrainians that would ebnefit all Ukrainians and not only the corrupt political elite. In essense it would mean he end of a US puppet Governemnt in Ukraine and the end of the Zelenskyy sideshow.


A referendum introducing new Constitution in Ukraine nd a resultant presiential and parliamentary elections in Ukraine will end the present charade in Kiev. Zelenskyy knows it and he has salted away enouh US Aid funding to last a luxurious lifestyle after fleeing from Ukraine, He amy end up in Israel since he is a nominal Jew - but the situation in Gaza needs to be soved as well. I hink Gaza will end up with Hamas being overthrown and then haded aback to be controlled by an international authority comprising the Saudi's and UAE and rebuilding and redevelopment of a very prosperous Gaza will follow,


A new worry is obviously the enw terrorist regime in Damascus. I will not be surprised if Turkey would occupy Syruia and it may even ebcome part of Turkey in future, Turkey is not a model deocracy - but from a religious perspective is nt radicalized like Iran and for instance Afghanistan and Iran is at present.


From a global pespecive Chia gained control of most South American countries and he first negotiations with Panama by Rubio will end potential control by C jina o th Panama canal. Brazil, Venezuela and Cuba is under Communist control already and the rest of the South America countries are dependnet on China for future investment and development - bar Argentina who kicked out the socialists from Government, or the rest it is in teh interest of the est to enhance their influence - but most of them is under economic cditins that is self-destructing countries like France and Germany,


Democracies woldwide neds a new allianmce system containing the international influece sphere of China - but idiots think Ukraine si more imporant than forming and promoting stronger opposition to China spresasding worldwide. India and Indonesia were the frst two countries that approached Trump in tha regard and idiocy in the media is not helping that alliance -forming from taking place,

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
20 Mar 2025, 11:06
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20 Mar 2025, 11:06#4

lol

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Mar 2025, 12:56
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20 Mar 2025, 12:56#5

Biden was so corrupt involving both Ukraine and China and they effectively was his master - China had a free hand while in Ukraine corruption controlled the war,

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
20 Mar 2025, 13:02
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20 Mar 2025, 13:02#6

Have a shitory....and then some.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
20 Mar 2025, 16:16
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20 Mar 2025, 16:16#7

Call it what you like, it's a lot closer to the mark than what you think.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
21 Mar 2025, 07:16
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21 Mar 2025, 07:16#8

I know which Vance I'd rather sit & have a pint with ............... not the eyeshadowed weasel doos.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 Mar 2025, 14:26
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21 Mar 2025, 14:26#9

I don't like JD much ...he's an opportunist who jumped on the Trump train to further his own ambition...will be a desaster if he becomes the next president...I'd much prefer Marco.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Mar 2025, 17:59
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21 Mar 2025, 17:59#10

It all depends on who Trump endorses. Anybody hated by BB and Denny will be preferable - anybody they support will be disastrous not only for the USA but also for the world at large amd be he end of Democacy in the world, , .

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