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Lets Make NATO Great Again

Started by sharkbok8 REPLIES351 VIEWS· 11 Jul 2023, 21:44
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sharkbokCaptain23,198 posts
11 Jul 2023, 21:44
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11 Jul 2023, 21:44#1

So Sweden has now joined us, and we are sorting through various applications from other countries in due course. 

Oh, and we have informed Ukraine that they will join NATO in due course. 
Ukraine brings another 40 million people to NATO. 



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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
11 Jul 2023, 22:02
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11 Jul 2023, 22:02#2

Darth Putin@DarthPutinKGBThis week Turkey has  - Said its Navy will enforce the Black Sea grain deal for 2 years - Open a bayraktar plant in Ukraine - Supply self propelled artillery to Ukraine - Allowed Sweden into NATO
 I remain a master strategist.9:56 PM · Jul 10, 2023·514.2K Views
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sharkbokCaptain23,198 posts
14 Jul 2023, 12:12
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14 Jul 2023, 12:12#3

Turkey has thrown Puter on the bus. Now Putin is threatening to end the black sea trade deal unless some sanctions are removed against Russia. Pull the other one

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
14 Jul 2023, 12:25
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14 Jul 2023, 12:25#4

LOL Putin trusting Erdogan. 

Erdogan looks out only for what he thinks is in Turkey's interest and will keep playing both sides to extract as many concessions out of each of them as he can. 


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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
16 Jul 2023, 05:19
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16 Jul 2023, 05:19#5


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
16 Jul 2023, 10:22
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16 Jul 2023, 10:22#6

Nato looks to be be falling apart. The Ukrainian defeat could be the final blow. 

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
17 Jul 2023, 00:51
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17 Jul 2023, 00:51#7

Sies Beansht4Brns, why are you such an evil vark?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Jul 2023, 06:44
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17 Jul 2023, 06:44#8

I do not see much future for NATO - thy ere supposed to defend Western Democracies - but they are falling apart at the seems because of Governments acting against the interests of their own countries,   

Leyts look at the strongest armies who are members of NATO"-

The USA 

The USA in the 20th century in the world - but has gone downhill in the 21st century.    The man problems were the poltico's playing havoc with the army.   The latest  calamity is -

*     that quotas have been developed for racial and sexual deviation - according to the Democrats there are 52  different sexes in the world - and for women - the result was that that insufficient candidates applied for appointment and the quota system may be o hlp for office jobs - but certainly not promoting the development of a fighting army. 

*     the USA army command is in chaos after the catastrophic withdrawal of the  army from Afghanistan and allied military units of other NATO members became aware of the fact  that the US Army Command in Kabul was a disgrace in the way they handled the withdrawal;

*    the present US Administration sabotaged  peace negotiations in Ukraine and actively support the Ukraine - leaving the people living in NATO countries to suffer increasingly from financial and life quality perspective in the and the fear that the present Ukraine situation could lead to a war against Russia.  

*     the woke culture in terms of their policies has taken over in the USA and any feeling of pride in the USA and the national symbols  have become an abomination  and the lack of patriotism and anti-family policy advocated in State schools in the USA  do not regard endangering their lives by joining the army is not really an option.   

Fact is the US Army is not even remotely as strong as it used to be and the top commanders is more interested in US Politics than in National defense.   The political leadership is corrupt   and incompetent with many of the erstwhile allies of the USA seeking new alliances.

Turkey

The Turks have the biggest army in NATO.   Turkey applied for BRICS membership and they could leave NATO because of them ebcoming allies of the most populous countries in the world.   

Rest of European membership countries

The armies of most of the NATO members are dealt with by Stav and indicates that Europe is in a state of euphoria and Governing coalition governments are weak and at least 4 NATO members and lost elections or have fallen  or as a result of  left right and center.

Weak Governments often result in curtailing of expenditure on defense and most people are not prepared to support a war with Russia.

Canada   

Canada is politically divisive with a Prime Minister who as close ties with China.   this country s going bad at a rapid rate.   Democracy undermining became the norm after the Government froze the bank accounts of protestors.    That was condemned  by Members of he EU Parliament   

The era of he Great NATO army is gone and dusted and while  political parties are badly effected by decades of leftist and center-left leaning Governments have undermined NATO.              

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Jul 2023, 06:47
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17 Jul 2023, 06:47#9

Putin and Erdogan is meeting this week and Turkey applied for BRICS membership that would put them in a position where there continued membership of  NATO will be jeopardized.     

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