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Lindsey Graham makes a landmark speech

Started by Mozart10 REPLIES459 VIEWS· 11 Dec 2019, 18:10
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Dec 2019, 18:10
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11 Dec 2019, 18:10#1

Entertaining, powerful.......achingly honest, Lindse y tells it like it is. At last we have it said in a Forum which is not Fox News, which the left never hears. Lindsey is a bit of a loose cannon, you can't predict where he will go  on any issue. But today, as in the Judge Kavenaugh hearing, he was pitch perfect.


This was an investigation launched by biased officials, hiding behind consensus and process, carried on long after it was obvious there was nothing there.



All the interviews and documents and work Horowitz cites means nothing if you ignore what lurks between the lines.....rampant bias. Three years of a presidency have been diminished by an investigation which a bit of worldly wisdom would have stopped as unnecessary and destructive.


So now the word of an Aussie political hack is enough to investigate a President  for 3 years. Flamingly stupid and disgustingly cynical.





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SeagullsStopItNowRookie43 posts
11 Dec 2019, 18:39
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11 Dec 2019, 18:39#2

Was Adam Schiff sitting staring wide-eyed into space while this speech occurred ? These articles of impeachment will not make it beyond the senate. It will end there. The whole thing was a ridiculously unnecessary political risk in the first place which is going to cost some swing state democrat representatives their seats.

I am continually astounded by the stupidity levels within the democratic party. Sometimes I wonder if they are adults or 10 year olds. I am not crazy about Trump but I simply cannot vote democrat with these idiots at the helm.

Remember these words. If Joe Biden wins, he will be the WORST president America has ever had. I hope that the moment he takes office, Republicans start investigating him from day 1 for his Burisma stuff.



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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
11 Dec 2019, 18:40
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11 Dec 2019, 18:40#3
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Lock him up!
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
11 Dec 2019, 18:46
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11 Dec 2019, 18:46#4
Skapie, the Democrat candidates are all very weak,
If Bozo isn't impeached (or if cholestrol doesn't do its job) then I can't see one of these candidates even running him close.
The Democrats have one tiny chance and I probably shouldn't mention the name of that chance . . . the very mention of her name will probably send Baboon-ou and the Trumpanzees into orbit.
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
11 Dec 2019, 19:32
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11 Dec 2019, 19:32#5
If you are referring to Hillary, and I assume you are, I hope she does decide to give it a go. That is if she make it to the election and not get run over before the election.............. by a Democrat.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Dec 2019, 20:17
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11 Dec 2019, 20:17#6

Clinton has zero chance of even winning some of the states where she won in 2016,  She has been  destroyed by her involvement in the Steele Dossier and the Russian Hoax.   The fact is I hope the DP are so stupid that they select Clinton as the candidate,  The Uranium 1 scandal involving her will be the final nail in her coffin and ends her up in jail.

There was an FBI investigation done in 2009, but hushed up by Obama.   The report is still available and the $142 million paid to the Clinton Foundation as a result is already public knowledge.  

Like Biden the Clintons are crooked as hell and one can expect from the crooks in the DP to get a fellow crook nominated.   Can only work if she wins of which there is not a snowballs chance in hell.    

The crooks will not have that Senator from Hawai as candidate - she has already been called a Russian Agent by CNN anyway and she is straight as well.   Too dangerous for the DP crooks to have her as President,                   

    

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SeagullsStopItNowRookie43 posts
11 Dec 2019, 20:23
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11 Dec 2019, 20:23#7

Such a long topic but anyhow...

Rooi, it's a serious problem for the US. Putting Trump aside for now, who exactly is a viable candidate to run this country ? Even Skeletor Pelosi who is usually stone faced had a little meltdown the other day after someone asked her if she hates Trump. The talent pool is shallow to non-existent.

Hillary Clinton will not beat Trump in the Electoral College system. Sorry to sound like a know-it-all but you have to live here in the US and speak to everyday people to understand why. She has her strongholds but outside of that NOBODY trusts her. She has the experience to be president but she is not well liked in general. I would go as far as to say that if Hillary runs, Trump wins. Actually that is true for all the rest too at this point. The democrats best hope right now is actually impeachment. They are all-in on this. If impeachment fails we will see Trump easily win a second term. At least that is my prediction.

Democrats best bet is Joe Biden. But old Joe has some kind of mental disease or something when one looks at his campaign shenanigans. Perhaps it runs in the family. And then there is Burisma....Republicans would love to return the favor and investigate a Democratic president for his entire term

Democrats also have a bunch of misconceptions that they refuse to move on from. Like a candidate must carry the Latino or Black vote to win. This is simply not true - not in Trump's America anyway. The swing lies in the 'silent majority' which is probably 90% white and 90% rural. The democrats firmly believe this Black/Latino thing and so do nothing to incorporate these rural whites. Trump did that with a few very simple messages hence his 'shocking win'. The democrats so believe that he couldn't have won that they are still trying to find out how Russia influenced the election. They absolutely refuse to admit their Black/Latino thing is completely wrong. If they did and changed their strategy, it would be game on again.


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CeradynePro9,374 posts
11 Dec 2019, 20:33
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11 Dec 2019, 20:33#8

Skeletor Pelosi 

Spot on




"She has her strongholds but outside of that NOBODY trusts her."

Why I said: "That is if she make it to the election and not get run over before the election.............. by a Democrat."


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Dec 2019, 03:25
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12 Dec 2019, 03:25#9

This is weird - it was fine of the FBI to spy on the Trump campaign and the fact that the investigation was based on the Steele dossier paid for by the Clinton campaign is totally ignored  by the DP Senators in their questioning of the IG,  

The whole story of the Steele Dossier and the usage thereof by the FBI and the subsequent Mueller Investigation will not go away and some people are going to jail because of criminal activity,   Irrespective of how the DP tries to cover it up - their activities in 2016 will not go away and they  will pay for it in 2020.     The DP accuses Trump of exactly what they did in 2016 - so where to now?  Escape mechanisms are always used by criminals to accuse others for their criminal activities and the DP is a party run by Criminals.      

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
12 Dec 2019, 10:12
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12 Dec 2019, 10:12#10
I watched a very large part of the hearing and what baffles me is the audacity of the Dems to still try and pretend that the IG exonerated the FBI of any form of bias. That is not what has been said but that is what idiots like Mazie Hirono from Hawaï was punting. If you listen to what Horowitz says in his explanation it is clear that there are clearly very strong suspicion of bias and there is also absolutely no proof of NO bias. What they haven’t found is any written or explicit evidence of bias. The point was very well put by one of the senators who asked Horowitz if he would agree that, on that point of the absence of material evidence of bias, nobody in his right mind would write a note/letter/email/etc or attest to the fact that he/she approached the investigation with a biased mindset. That does not mean that their bias cannot be clearly on display. Horowitz agreed with him 100%. But no, the plank Hirono and, IIRC, senator Leahy also, came back in their second round and once again punted their idea that there was no bias at all from the FBI. The only Dem senator who came out fairly unscathed was Kamala Harris but she cleverly avoided the contentious issues and concentrated on uncontentious technical stuff. I cannot wait for the impeachment trial to begin in the Senate with the likes of Adam Schiff under oath. It would be fun to see turtle neck Nadler under oath as well, trying to square up the anomalies in what he said during the Clinton impeachment hearings with what he said now during the Trump impeachment hearings.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
12 Dec 2019, 14:54
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12 Dec 2019, 14:54#11

A few points that must be noted. 

The Globalist aligned demonrats hate Trump who is a Nationalist putting America First. Globalist hate the nation state and their prime target is the USA followed by the destruction of the European NATION STATES. . Anybody who doesn't realize by now that this hatred of Trump is ideological and based on the fact Trump is dismantling the globist world order hasn't a clue what is happening or what is at stake. 

The far left communist globalist aligned demonrat's policies are disasterous for the USA.

Biden spoke now about unlimited chain migration. They want open borders. They hope to win by importing voters and keeping costs down for their corporate masters. 

There are huge costs to open borders in EVERY sense. Then they want sanctuary cities to help break down law and order. 

The Green New Deal to eliminate fossil fuels at a cost of 92 trillion over 10 years will finish off the US economy. As will Medicare for all at a cost of 43 trillion dollars. Illegal aliens must get free medical care  and housing say the demonrats. They want a mass invasion of the US. Abort American Children and import foreigners and especially Muslims. 

The demonrats of course want to shut down American coal as well as oil and gas. Resume importing from the ME and Russia!.

They also want to resume exporting American jobs to China, Mexico etc. 

The cultural marxist and progressive want to brain wash the American public to accept Marxism and the most disgusting morals ever. 

The aim is to destroy the economy, character and morals of America and lead the country to surrender their sovereignty just as the European globalist are working to destroy the nation states of Europe. 

A great tool in this exercise is censorship and control of what gets said. Twitter, Google and Facebook as well as fake news CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, Washing Post and NYT etc are all propaganda machines. 

I hear very fake news CNN and and MSNBC  didn't cover Graham's speech?

The survival of America as a free nation state depends on Trump and the GOP winning in 2020. Indeed the fate of the World depends on Trump winning. 

The good news is his poll numbers have risen thanks to impeachment. 

Some morons here dislike Trump because of the non stop propaganda against the President. Again, fortunately the globalist owned MSM is tanking and they can't control the narrative. Only 7% say they trust the MSM!!

Halfwits like rooibozo and sharktwit have crashed again and again as they have regurgitated MSM lies only to find that they were lies. However they are as thick as planks and never learn. Bwhahahahahaha what a bunch of hapless DOPES. 

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