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MSM Slowly Comes to Grips With Ukraine’s Diminishing Support in Europe, in the US and Worldwide

Started by Beeno113 REPLIES452 VIEWS· 23 Sept 2023, 13:43
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 Sept 2023, 13:43
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23 Sept 2023, 13:43#1

Everything is pointing to the fact that the people don't want this war and will be ending the political lives of politicians who do.

Slowly but surely, the Mainstream Media is coming to terms with the fact that the support for the Ukrainian regime has diminished considerably in many countries – including the US.

The theme became unavoidable once Poland declared that it will no longer give weapons, ammunition and equipment to Kiev

Take a look at this:


Ukraine losing support rapidly



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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Sept 2023, 14:31
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23 Sept 2023, 14:31#2

Here’s the thing. Ukraine is doing NATO’s job for it. NATO started out fully supporting Ukraine and they deserved and have paid for that support in the lives of their young men.

If Ukraine wants to stop NATO should respect that decision. But if they want to continue fighting for their homeland we can’t pull back on our commitment to support them. And we won’t. The stain of that  betrayal would last for hundreds of years.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Sept 2023, 15:27
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23 Sept 2023, 15:27#3

Mozart

The USA  should be ashamed  - they sabotaged efforts at a peaceful settlement and they convinced NATO to support it to get heir hands on the Russian Black Sea Fleet base in Sevastopol.   They have been on the anti -Russian hate campaign in the USA  for years - when they had no proof they just spread lies.

They got support for the by spreading  the story that with superior weapons supply by the West Ukraine would win the War,    

Part of the problem is that the result of teh War has been inflationary and the odinary people in th e USA and EU countries had been hit hard by those.   In the USA - wh o was the main warmonger the issue of inflation and reduction of assistance to US citizens coming together with the Government Open Policy is playing havoc with ther poor and working class people.   

The story of the wealthy and politicians getting extra millions from the war is not helping with support for Ukraine either.   Biden cannot get the H ouse to raise the debt ceiling of the Federal Government and would struggle to get the $15 billion.he wanted to spend on Ukraine.   S o he has offered them $315 million in support.

The Hose insists on a forensic audit of the funds spent iro of the Ukraine War and that is dangerous si nce the fact of corruption on the issue ion both Kiev and Washington will emerge within a year before the 2024 election.   My view has always been wars are abominations and hit the people hard.   This one is having another effect as well - and that is distrust of the present USA Govern-ment.      .  

          

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Sept 2023, 17:52
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23 Sept 2023, 17:52#4

So now the US wanted the Black Sea fleet….is that just a brain implosion or did you read it in the Magaliesberg Times?

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
24 Sept 2023, 02:28
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24 Sept 2023, 02:28#5

Only Moz and Biden really support Zinsky in the US now.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
24 Sept 2023, 04:21
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24 Sept 2023, 04:21#6

Amazing loyalty from the Zbots .............. never ever never, any criticism of the architect of this insane unnecessary destruction of a sovereign nation. .................... instead, some fwit suggests lets blame ole Joe & the Drats ................ the mind boggles.

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
24 Sept 2023, 04:52
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24 Sept 2023, 04:52#7

Hey Blobs, you still stuck in the trenches. When you get out pls explain why NATO wanted Georgia and Ukraine in the 2008 Budapest Summit. Can you go back that far? 

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
24 Sept 2023, 06:58
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24 Sept 2023, 06:58#8

No, cos you're talking shit ................... does that justify what's happening today ??

No mas .

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
25 Sept 2023, 02:32
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25 Sept 2023, 02:32#9

People sheltering in the metro during an air strike alarm in Kyiv, Ukraine, 24 August 2023. Photograph: Roman Pilipey/AFP/Getty Images

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Sept 2023, 04:14
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25 Sept 2023, 04:14#10

Mozart 

 You, are indeed an idiot supreme.-you know perfectly well that the US wants to neutralize the Russian Navy and Russia itself by getting  their hands on the Sevastopol navy facilities of the Russiabn fleet - the only hot water facility of the Russian fleet in Europe.   

That is what led to the 1856 Crimean War and to the inisitence on Ukraine with its regime of extremists the USA created by the 2014 coup the USA  funded and organized as a means to get their hands on.    They also want Russia as a country destroyed and their hands on Russian natural resources ibn line with the WEF objective of a world governed by the ultra=wealthy - a world the body claim is necessary to have a reduced population of 500 hundred thousand to a billion slaves they can control and  use as they wish,

Be aware they do not want the USA  as an independent country either.   They want a country filled with hatred of any people that do not obey their Woke culture and they picked an idiot that would obey every one of their wishes as US President.  Their Open Border Policy aimed at destroying the USA  as a country as well,     Go and read what they openly advertised as their objectives on their website and maybe you will learn something .

From, the perspective of thinking people this War was started on the insistence of the policy makers in the USA and those are not the elected representatives of the people - but the politicians carrying out their instructions.    They drive the Green Policy of the Biden Administration knowing full well it would destroy the world population through wars and destruction of food production accompanied by starvation death of billions of people worldwide,  They gained control of the media and the sheeple like you fall for their propaganda - their objective being the destruction of national pride and  culture of people and nation states in the world.   

That is the fear of millions of people worldwide - a nuclear war and the destruction it would cause is part and parcel of their thinking.   That is why many people fear that all-out war against Russia will destroy the world and fear that with an controlled idiot like Biden such a war becomes inevitable.

That is why nations realize they are under threat and the USA  is losing  support of many nations because of their destructive approach and aside from the ME countries many countries have applied to join BRICS .     That is a clear warning sign that the present Regime in the USA is regarded as a threat to the people of the world.   That is why the voters in Europe are moving away from the leftist regimes and the leftist Governments in Euriope supporting the War in Ukraine are floundering and falling.

   

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Sept 2023, 04:21
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25 Sept 2023, 04:21#11

BB

Wars lead to suffering of people irrespective of where they happen.   Yet you support the War in Ukraine and not realize that people worldwide are being affected by it,     Be assured it is the first War of its kind - many more will follow.      

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Sept 2023, 04:21
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25 Sept 2023, 04:21#12

Duplic ation.      

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SebPro2,680 posts
25 Sept 2023, 05:18
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25 Sept 2023, 05:18#13

"We did not start the Fire !" as the Billy Joel lyric goes.

Of course you did, only a very dishonest, biased lunatic refuses to to see the obvious.

Vietnam, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Israel/Palestine, Iran, Horn of Africa and Ukraine (2014 until present)... the list continues to mount up.

Huge egos, inflated self interest and false democracy (hypocrisy of extremities) all for greed and power.

Neo Cons, don't give a rats arse for the Ukrainians, nor any of the unfortunate victims of the above mentioned.

Americans are not bad people but Washington is rotten to the core...this interference has got to stop.Live and let live, let the people in those countries free to sort their own backyards.

Go home Yank and fix your own backyard, mind your own business and start building back your own countrymen to thrive and live in peace. Then we can respect you and live in peace.



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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
25 Sept 2023, 05:39
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25 Sept 2023, 05:39#14

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