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Nolte: How Our Vulgar Media and Political Elite Ruined Two Funerals

Started by Beeno118 REPLIES574 VIEWS· 03 Sept 2018, 21:50
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
03 Sept 2018, 21:50
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03 Sept 2018, 21:50#1

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Ogling, groping, racists, racism, accused-rapists, mean-girl snubs, inappropriate rants, cheap shots delivered to humiliate invited guests as the crowd roars its approval… No, this was not a sorority hazing or a prison riot or the last gasp of Ancient Rome; it was how America’s establishment behaved at the funerals for Aretha Franklin and Sen. John McCain (R-AZ).

Here we are in an America with a roaring economy, manufacturing jobs are coming back (without a magic wand), the War on Terror feels like ancient history, we’re not launching stupid wars, Putin’s adventurism’s been halted, and North Korea has gone from launching missiles to arguing over how quickly it will denuclearize…

In other words, for the first time in 17 years, for the first time since those passenger planes hit the World Trade Center, we are at long last enjoying some well-deserved Peace and Prosperity.

But how did our self-appointed media and political elite spend the last few days? Lashing out at the man primarily responsible for America’s comeback while longing for the good ol’ days when they were in charge of endless wars and managing America’s decline.

And all of this happened at the most inappropriate venue imaginable: a funeral.

There is only one way to describe what we witnessed over the last few days. Basically, in front of the whole world, we watched those who piously lecture the rest of us about decency, decorum, and civility, bare their sorry asses. (ABSOLUTELY!)

And this baring of elite asses did not happen at just any funeral. The passing of the legendary Aretha Franklin and war hero John McCain… These should have been unifying events, a time for America to come together to practice the traditions that unite us, to engage in the kind of unified civic behavior our Apostles of Decency claim to lament the loss of.

If nothing else, this was their opportunity to show us Trumptards how it’s done… Watch us unite the country! Watch us lead by example! Watch us be the change we want!

But what did they do instead? Pulled their pants down. And this happened for only one reason: Trump doesn’t just live in their heads — he’s in there blasting Chuck Berry, banging Playboy Bunnies in threes, wolfing down cheeseburgers, and accomplishing what they never could: making America great again.

Over at Instapundit, Glenn Reynolds puts it best: “One of Trump’s major accomplishments has been to reveal the lack of civic virtue and self-control across our elite institutions.”

Trump has forced them to reveal who they really are. YES INDEED THESE SCUMBAGS HAVE BEEN UNMASKED BIG TIME!!

May I be honest? Am I allowed to be honest in the age of CorrectThink? Please do argue with me if you disagree, but if the media reports are true, was it not John McCain himself who set the childish tone with his mean-girl invite list? ABSOLUTELY!!!

Apparently, he spent eight months planning his own funeral, which was, to begin with, — am I allowed to say it? — just a tad ostentatious. But to snub a sitting president, to snub Sarah Palin, his unfailingly loyal 2008 vice presidential running mate? What was that other than petty and childish? VERY PETTY AND SPITEFUL!

If I wanted Trump to look bad, I would have invited him to my funeral in the hope he would make himself look bad. If the man is as boorish as our Ruling Class says, why not be the bigger man, even if you are hoping to set him up?

But someone who did make McCain’s invite list was credibly accused rapist and perjurer Bill Clinton. And on the invite list at Aretha’s funeral was that same credibly accused rapist and perjurer Bill Clinton, who shared the front row dais with raging racist and anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan, anti-Semite Al Sharpton, and Jesse “Hymietown” Jackson.

This was the least of it, though. The behavior at both of these funerals was so cheap, so crass… And all of it on national television.

To begin with, in a fit of mean-spiritedness that beggars belief, the McCains obviously invited Trump’s daughter Ivanka and son-in-law Jared to humiliate them, to force them to sit there as Meghan McCain and former Presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush took cheap shots at Ivanka’s father. THE UNIPARTY IN ACTION OAKS!

Worse still, while a war hero’s national funeral was turned into a bitter and divisive campaign rally, a cathedral full of elites cheered.

Meanwhile, over at Aretha’s funeral, the very same people teeing off on Trump ogled Ariana Grande and then groped her breast and then — no joke — made a joke about Grande being a “new something at Taco Bell.

These are the people lecturing us about decency, y’all.

All I could think of was The Masque of the Red Death or, as “Virgil” put it, “the Establishment is raging against the dying of the light [and] know that this is their political twilight[.]”

Trump’s accomplishments are not only making fools of establishment elites; his accomplishments are goading establishment elites into making fools of themselves. A BSOLUTELY HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Koos KombuisClub Pro409 posts
04 Sept 2018, 08:39
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04 Sept 2018, 08:39#2
Goodness, what an hysterical outburst . . . and over what, an invitation to a funeral?
I think that writer is letting his emotions get the better of him. It's not nearly as complicated or as sinister as he is making out. It's actually quite simple really. The family of John McCain - by all accounts a decent enough bunch - do not want McCain's funeral to be tainted by controversy so they didn't invite the self-centered, boorish and ill-mannered draft-dodger who publicly questioned McCain's military service to the funeral. Perfectly understandable to anyone but the least intelligent and thin-skinned of the Trumpanzees.
And what's all the bleating about the vacuous bimbo Ivanka and her unfortunate husband attending the funeral? "Forced to sit there and watch"? Who was forcing them? They could have turned down the invitation. I mean really, ask yourself, if someone said to you that they weren't inviting your father to a funeral but you can come, what would you do? Most people raised in a proper and functional family environment would reply that if my father's not good enough for you then I'm not coming either . . . but if you're raised by a money-obsessed buffoon with no class, breeding or manners I suppose you say screw him and go anyway and hope that there are at least good snacks afterwards.
It's articles like this that make me wonder who is more despicable and pathetic . . . Bozo BLOTUS and his opportunistic greedy family or simpletons like Beeno and the author of this laughable excrement who support Bozo so blindly.
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
04 Sept 2018, 09:58
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04 Sept 2018, 09:58#3
“I think that writer is letting his emotions get the better of him.” Huh??? Have you missed the emotions of everyone who attended and who were jockeying for their own five minutes of hypocritical outburst?
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Koos KombuisClub Pro409 posts
04 Sept 2018, 10:01
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04 Sept 2018, 10:01#4
It was a funeral for Pete's sake. Perfectly normal for people to be emotional at a funeral. No?
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
04 Sept 2018, 11:30
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04 Sept 2018, 11:30#5

Jihadi Beeno, Thanks for humouring us but may I suggest that you look at your hero Trumputin to set the example when it comes to decency. Remember him standing on Air Force 1 lying for all the world to hear, the "touching of the pussy video" and his expensive lay with a low class prostitute?

You wouldn't call that decent would you!?

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Sept 2018, 12:11
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04 Sept 2018, 12:11#6

You also need to note oaks how the Chump dense denise also got it so badly wrong regarding Songbird McCain.Here we saw the globalist Uni party unmasked and in full voice together.

Thanks to Dr Moz and to Windpomp for assisting in trying to set the Chump straight. But we are dealing with one very dense denise for sure!

Dense denise Trump being in his younger days a billionaire Playboy type doesn't bother the American voter one dot. Certainly not after rapist/pedo Bill Clinton (and Hillary doing the cover up) who you never go after. NO very rightly they voted for a man with guts, brains and proven ability who would fight for them and the country and that is what they got and President Trump is winning Big Time.

What has happened to Stormy Daniels, or to Amorosa? Gone.

Meanwhile Trump is proving to be the greatest president in American history and may just save the country from being destroyed by the Globalists. By doing that he will also be hugely significant in saving Europe from the open borders Globalists there and ultimately saving the planet from the Globalist world government tyranny - which we see includes stamping out all dissenting voices.

Time for you to wake up denny you dope.




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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
04 Sept 2018, 12:25
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04 Sept 2018, 12:25#7

ppsssssstt I forgot to mention the Hush Money...…… hush now Jihadi Beeno....there' s a good happy clapper.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
04 Sept 2018, 15:54
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04 Sept 2018, 15:54#8

Miz and windpimp trying to set chump straight?

Think your tin foil hat is interfering with normal thought beenshit.  They are are almost as deluded as you.

Chump is to far gone to think straight unless you mean a straight jacket?

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
04 Sept 2018, 17:56
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04 Sept 2018, 17:56#9
“Posted by: Koos Kombuis (248 posts) Sep 04, 2018, 10:01 It was a funeral for Pete's sake. Perfectly normal for people to be emotional at a funeral. No?” Yeah right. So emotional that they turned a somber funeral into a political point scoring rally and blame it on Trump who was not even there.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
05 Sept 2018, 03:09
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05 Sept 2018, 03:09#10

Oh Dear, The holier than thou Apartheid and Nationalist Party loudmouth hits the moral high ground again. 


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CeradynePro9,374 posts
05 Sept 2018, 09:55
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05 Sept 2018, 09:55#11
So you approve of their tactics, don’t you? You seem to remember your examples from your beloved ANC.
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
05 Sept 2018, 11:01
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05 Sept 2018, 11:01#12
This is how the MSM operates. I have been searching for an article by any of CNN, the Washington Post or the New York Times about this: http://uk.businessinsider.com/new-york-state-senate-candidate-julia-salazars-claims-are-disputed-by-her-family-2018-8 The mother and brother of a New York state senate candidate have accused her of lying about her working class, immigrant background New York state senate candidate Julia Salazar is under fire after her mother and brother disputed her accounts of being raised in a working-class, immigrant family. While Salazar has said she was brought to the US as baby from Colombia, her family says she never lived in Colombia, and that she has exaggerated her stories of socio-economic hardship. The 27-year-old Democratic socialist has attracted a series of positive media profiles after progressive insurgent Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez - and other top state Democrats - endorsed her. New York state senate candidate Julia Salazar, an insurgent progressive endorsed by fellow Democratic socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, is under fire after her mother and brother disputed her accounts of being raised in a working-class, immigrant family. Salazar, 27, has provided confusing and sometimes contradictory descriptions of her background, including that she was partially raised in Colombia by a single mother who at times struggled to make ends meet - a story her brother, Alex, and mother, Christine, rebutted in a recent City & State story. "My family immigrated to the US from Colombia when I was a baby, and my mom ended up raising my brother and me as a single mom, without a college degree, and from a working-class background," Salazar told Jacobin last month. Salazar later said that she was raised between Florida and Colombia and spent "the first years" of her life in the South American country. But Alex, who is two years older than Salazar, says the two were raised entirely in Florida and that the family made just a handful of trips back to the South American country to visit family. He also disputed her claims that the family struggled financially.
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Koos KombuisClub Pro409 posts
05 Sept 2018, 11:52
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05 Sept 2018, 11:52#13
I see the questions are now being asked as to who invited Ivanka Trump to John McCain's funeral?
No-one is owning up so it's one of two things . . . either the person is too embarrassed to admit that he/she invited the spoilt but vacuous little daddy's girl to a funeral where she wasn't welcome (and she sat texting on her phone throughout the service by all accounts) or else she displayed the tacky and low-class traits of her family and gatecrashed.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
05 Sept 2018, 11:53
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05 Sept 2018, 11:53#14

You seem to remember your examples from your beloved ANC.

Good try but the ANC is not my beloved, I was never a card carrying ANC member whereas you were a card carrying National Party member.....or was it Herstigte Nationale Party?

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
05 Sept 2018, 12:37
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05 Sept 2018, 12:37#15
“whereas you were a card carrying National Party member.....” And you know that for a fact because...? You do know that the Nationst Party was actually the most centre party of all the political parties, don’t you? You also do know that most of the Apartheid laws were from before the existence of the Nationalist party don’t you? You do know that the Nationalist Party were actually responsible for repealing a hell of a lot of Apartheid legislation, if not more than what the ANC did. You do know that the real instigator behind the unbanning of the ANC and other banned organisations was actually PW Botha and not FW de Klerk, like so many would like to believe, don’t you?
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
05 Sept 2018, 12:43
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05 Sept 2018, 12:43#16

You do know that the Nationst Party was actually the most centre party of all the political parties

They did a good job of brainwashing you. What a cracker!



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CeradynePro9,374 posts
05 Sept 2018, 13:38
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05 Sept 2018, 13:38#17

OK, Let's have a go. On the left you would have had the Sir De Villiers Graaff's United Party, later the New Republic Party with Vause Raw replacing Sir Div. 

On the far right you would have had the Herstigte Nasionale Party under Albert Hertzog and later Jaap Marais. This party was formed when Hertzog and co decided that the NP was too left wing for them. That would have placed the NP slap bang in the middle. (Note at this stage, my earlier remark that FW de Klerk is widely accredited with the release of Mandela and the unbanning of the ANC et al, while it was actually the "vile arch racist" PW Botha who should have taken the credit). 

Then later, when it was clear that the un-banning of the ANC and the release of Mandela was on the cards, Andries Treurnicht and his gang defected to form the Conservative Party. A party which placed themselves somewhere near the HNP on the left right scale, but way right of the NP. This happened in 1982, twelve years before the 1994 elections. The effect of that was that you had "left wing" parties on the left, obviously, with the NP to the right of them and far over to the right you had the HNP and the CP.

After the 1994 elections, the NP was still in the middle but they had more or less in line with the DA but they have jumped into bed with the ANC and still later was even dissolved by Kortbroek van Schalkwyk when he surrendered to the ANC.

Brainwashing, you say?

I'm not posting this in an effort ridicule or score points. I would love to have a mature debate about it for once.

Look, I fully agree that there were major fuck-ups in the past and, in hind sight,  a lot of things could and should have been done differently on many fronts. My viewpoint is that the political history of South Africa is not all as bad as it is made out to have been. There were a hell of a lot of things that were better and should have been improved on. Instead a hell of a lot of those just went to pot after 1994.

Let me take one example.

The educational system, IMO, was way better than it is at present. Could it have been improved on? Like hell it could have been. 

Instead of blowing all that money on the so-called homeland BS, they should have had a uniform educational system. They could have had mother tongue education for all people and on the same level. How great would that have been? And this is not something that I have been thinking about since recently. Yes, I do agree that the education that Black people had were not on par with what the Whites got but it was not that far behind either . It was still possible for black people to gain university entrance and become professional people. 

What has happened since? The universities do not even recognise school leaving certificates any more and they require all kind of entry exams and even that gets manipulated. My matric certificate granted me access straight into uni. OK, my marks was not sufficient to go into, for example, a medical profession and I did not have the required subjects for that but I could still go for a B Com degree without any further entry exams. Nowadays, as far as I know, even a university entrance certificate does not give you automatic acceptance.

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Koos KombuisClub Pro409 posts
05 Sept 2018, 13:43
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05 Sept 2018, 13:43#18
The United Party was left wing?
Now that is what I call revisionism!
English-speaking Nats is what they were. Go on then, what was the difference between the political ideology of the Nats and the UP? I'm all ears.
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
05 Sept 2018, 15:13
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05 Sept 2018, 15:13#19
@Koos. Correct in a way. My bad. I should actually have started a bit further back. It was the Sourh African Party that were the most left wing. Fact is that they were very close in the early days with the like of Genl Hertzog bring invlolved in all three of the parties. Both the SAP and the UP were described as liberal conservative. That all changed when Hettxog et al broke away to form the NP. At the time that would, in my books have the SAP/UP to the left of the NP, although the UP and the NP, in those days, were very close. When it came to the period of Sir Div and later, the UP were definitely more left than the NP. I still stand by my point that the NP was more centre than left or right wing. The mere fact that they were formed after a break away from the UP and that two right wing parties broke away from them also says a lot. Especially if you also take into account the formation of groups like the AWB that grew out of the right wing parties that broke away from the Nats. On a side note. One of our lecturers in Political Science was Prof Charles Nieuwoudt. He was the dean of the Dept of Economical and Social Sciences at TUKS. He served on the the Presidents Council in early eighties as well. I studied part time and attended evening classes. One evening I got home and said to my wife that the interesting thing about him was that you could never judge his political sympathies. One evening he would come across as being left of the liberals and the next evening one would swear that he would never fit in with the AWB because they were too liberal for him.
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