Now the book and film Gone with the Wind is to be banned by the media and the Internet

This shows the madness that has grabbed the US and I think the best thing people can do is to just give up and see the world we knew go out of control and self-destruct.     

I do not know why I am feel so depressed today - what ever I read makes me more and more depressed.    

You can buy it on Amazon- https://variety.com/2020/digital/uncategorized/gone-with-the-wind-amazon-best-seller-hbo-max-1234630577/

I already have  Gone With the Wind,   That is not the issue here - what is is that the Democrats and their fellow crooks are now going to wipe out the culture and history of the USA as part of the program to destroy the country.   That is the worst thing anyone could do.

Not even the Russian Communists  destroyed the historical culture of Russia and they were not angels either.    However, they regarded Russian Archdukes and Tsars as important in creating the state of Russia.

The Democrats are following the path of Mao Zedong who tried to destroy Chinese culture.  In causing the death pf 72 million people, he w as the worst dictator in the history of  the world - but a hero of the Democrat Socialists who now run that Party.   The murder of millions of US citizens following the example of Mao will start sooner than you think.                

Even words and Dictionaries are being amended. New speak is here.

        "Every record has been
destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right."

He must have been writing about the Democrats of the resent time - he meant the Communists then - but they are the present partners of the Chinese  Communists after being bribed by the Chinese.    They always sell the USA for the highest bidder .   

HBO have already said they intend to bring Gone with the Wind back. They will likely just add a disclaimer at the start saying this movie may contain culturally outdated views, like Disney have done on some of their older movies.

"Shakespeare is hardly read in schools anymore?"

You anything to base that claim on?

"I do not know why I am feel so depressed today - whatever I read makes me more and more depressed."

Stop reading so much far right wing content and try taking a more balanced perspective on things.

Have you seen the number of monuments destroyed and buildings burnt down by the rioters, as well as the 15 murdered  - totally ignored by the leftist media so as not to show what the Antifa movement is really up to - what they are up to is under the leadership of the Democratic Party, who use Antifa to cause terror as far as they go.  .     

Eliminating Shakespeare is  gaining currency in the US. My grandkids schooling for example. Where  only Romeo and Juliet which plays on modern day gang themes, seems cool. But of course Shakespeare is not woke, so one sees more and more of this stuff:

‘I’m not the only person who is starting to question Shakespeare’s prominence in our classrooms. In 2016, students at Yale University petitioned the school to “decolonize” its reading lists, including by removing its Shakespeare requirement. Teachers are realizing that a lot of the curriculum in our classrooms privileges white, male, European voices, and are beginning to question Shakespeare’s relevance for students.’

For centuries Shakespeare was fine, but not any more for many of our new generation of Philistines . Sitting is Starbucks gossiping about friends is ‘high art’ for these new cave people.

It's racist to be white...our whiteness seem to offend some people.

White and ‘old’. The market for English antique furniture is a disaster.....of no interest. Articles from great  makers like Chippendale, Ince and Mayhew and Giles Grendey selling at cents on the dollar.

This generation is willing to bu y a Patek Phillipe for a hundred thousand dollars....but as I found,  disinterested in a 1650 clock made by East, Master of the Clock Makers Guild .....part of the history of horology and quite beautiful.

’Trinkets in airports sufficient to lead them astray’

We are losing the creativity and thoughts  of prior generations, of people who had the time to reflect. Is there anything created in the twentieth century to match Beethoven’s Fifth? And the new century promises to be even more of a cultural desert.

I stay with my statements - the modern day leftist are trying to destroy US culture and history because it does not tie in with there ideas.

The Communists in Russia never did what the leftists insist upon.  The more cultured Russians are proud of their history and the monuments and historic buildings some stretching back more than a thousand years.   The Kremlins in cities - every major city - bar St Petersburg has had their own Kremlin.   They protect those vigorously even under Lenin and Stalin.

There is the famous story of the Communist leader in St Petersburg - strangely enough a bloke with the surname of Romanov - who used  the crockery of Catherine the Great at his daughters wedding reception.   Some items were broken  and that was the end of Romanov - never heard of again.         

Plenty of music that surpasses Beethovens fifth around today, and as far as Shakespeare I had to endure that shit 40 years ago at school.

There are still plenty of talented and creative people around its just different to what you are used to. As much crap was created in years gone by as there is nowadays. Be a strange world if we all liked the same things and nobody created anything different.

Nothing wrong with the "fresh and new", the problem lies with the violent tearing down of the "old" some of the lefties don't agree with.

Tolerance used to be a liberal value of the left...it's not anymore...got replaced with mass hysteria and violent protests.  Something is dead wrong with society.  This isn't about Trump. Western civilization is under attack from within. 

Okay ....what surpasses Beethoven’s fifth?

The BBC has posted a very interesting article that investigates whether people claiming all over the internet that "pop music just isn't what it used to be" are simply growing old, or if there actually is objective science capable of backing up this claim of a "steady decline in music quality." The findings from five different studies are quoted; the findings from the fourth study is especially striking: 


1. Pop music has become slower -- in tempo -- in recent years and also "sadder" and less "fun" to listen to. 
2. Pop music has become melodically less complex, using fewer chord changes, and pop recordings are mastered to sound consistently louder (and therefore less dynamic) at a rate of around one decibel every eight years. 
3. There has been a significant increase in the use of the first-person word "I" in pop song lyrics, and a decline in words that emphasize society or community. Lyrics also contain more words that can be associated with anger or anti-social sentiments. 
4. 42% of people polled on which decade has produced the worst pop music since the 1970s voted for the 2010s. These people were not from a particular aging demographic at all -- all age groups polled, including 18-29 year olds, appear to feel unanimously that the 2010s are when pop music became worst. This may explain a rising trend of young millennials, for example, digging around for now 15-30 year-old music on YouTube frequently. It's not just the older people who listen to the 1980s and 1990s on YouTube and other streaming services it seems -- much younger people do it too. 
5. A researcher put 15,000 Billboard Hot 100 song lyrics through the well-known Lev-Zimpel-Vogt (LZV1) data compression algorithm, which is good at finding repetitions in data. He found that songs have steadily become more repetitive over the years, and that song lyrics from today compress 22% better on average than less repetitive song lyrics from the 1960s. The most repetitive year in song lyrics was 2014 in this study. 

Conclusion: There is some scientific evidence backing the widely voiced complaint -- on the internet in particular -- that pop music is getting worse and worse in the 2000s and the 2010s. The music is slower, melodically simpler, louder, more repetitive, more "I" (first-person) focused, and more angry with anti-social sentiments. The 2010s got by far the most music quality down votes with 42% from people polled on which decade has produced the worst music since the 1970s.
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Case closed.

"Case closed."

Do you think we wouldn't notice that what you just posted has absolutely nothing to do with the previous question you posted?

Or a re you seriously arguing Beethoven's 5th is pop music???

You do know there are more music groups than Pop still being made today don't you. There is as much chance of me sitting down to listen to Pop music as there is me listening to Beethoven.

I think you are missing the point which is just because its old does not mean its better and just because you don't like something doesn't mean the people who made it are less creative or have no talent. Same applies to art, I presume  you also think if it's not painted by a master over 400 years ago its shit then? 

And to answer your question snowflake I could name a hundred bands over the last 50 years that are way better than Beethoven in MY opinion which means as much as YOUR opinion on what is better. 

(great choice  Rooinek, Rammstein is one of the 100 bands I would name but I might have gone with Engel over Du Hast, hard to choose between those two)

I must admit I like music over noise.  The singers that still have any idea of tunes in music is not at all a modern  trend.   However, taste differ and that remains the same through the history.   

It is not what counts in this argument.  What does count is that there are people around that destroy and not replace it with anything.   The fact is that people are interested as to what happen in the past.  Palaces like Versailles, Schonbrunn and the Hermitage in St Petersburg each attract between 15 to 16 million visitors per year showing that it has a value in modern tourism industry,   However, if it depends on the modern attitude it will be destroyed and millions of jobs lost.

The problem remains, the present trend in modern history is to  abuse and destroy democracy and everything that goes with it.   The trend in the USA is an example,   Since you want power you have every right to spy on people and abuse the judiciary as was clear under Obama and the present Democrat leadership.  The so-called protest about Floyd is just  means to make the USA ungovernable and the Floyd story is used  to get at the Police, 

The Democrats sold themselves out to first the Russians in 2016 and now the Chinese Communists,   The leadership were involved in massive bribery and corruption - for which they captured the FBI, CIA and Justice Department to prevent real investigations.

The trend is clear - destroy democracy in the USA and the rest will cave in and a socialist system will be introduced worldwide.  That will never be democratic at all and to prevent people from reacting to it by brainwashing by the media and outright election fraud is what will be the result.   If that does not work use the Justice system to destroy freedom of people.  

The USA will be destroyed this year and democracy will be gone within another two years,   The whole process will be completed in the next decade and that will mean another form of slavery - give people not jobs but food-stamps to survive and what is already clear in California and New York let them live on the sidewalks and  help them along with drugs and alcoholism - so let them, steal and commit crimes to feed their addictions.   The system works wonderfully well already,   Minor crimes short of murder should not be prosecuted.   Already murder of 15 people by rioters over the last three weeks is not even being investigated in the cities controlled by the Democrats.

I am old and will not survive for long - but what about the younger people in the world.    The first people to be wiped out through genocide will be the Whites, Coloureds and Indians in SA and that will happen sooner than you people think. 

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Half the problem is people like you and Beenshit, so one eyed you are fuckin blind.

It's always the other sides fault and the world would be perfect if my guys got their way. Like I said before its fools like you lot on both sides that has got us to where we are today.

The orange one screaming fake news at every thing that dares to raise questions, journalists selling their soles to the highest bidder (that includes Fox and CNN) the average Joe has no chance of figuring out what is fact from the fiction. Throw in you muppets with your mindless rants and wacky conspiracies muddying the water even more. Did you not learn about the boy who cried wolf when you were a nipper, maybe you should go look it up. Everything and I mean EVERYTHING you and Beenshit post I automatically put into the bullshit list. Hell Beenshit has converted me to a Democrat and if I was stupid enough to have been a Christian before his wacky views on sky fairies would have turned me into an Atheist as well.

Actually no Anger. I am exposing a trend of declining complexity. So Queen’s music is far superior to today’s junk. That said  anybody who thinks that the singing demands on Freddie Mercury singing the Bohemian Rhapsody are anything like the demands on Pavarotti singing Otello are simply ignorant. 

Don’t be ignorant. Opera, old opera, is still the pinnacle of the human voice....nothing produced today is in the same league 

In your opinion

To me opera singers, Beethoven and his ilk are all hugely talented but opera is still fuckin awful and most classical music is the same.

There are lots of music type such as rap, country and western that are even worse than classical music but I can still appreciate the talent required to make their music.

Liking opera and Classical music doesn't make you superior to anyone else you know. Think Rooinek nailed it with pompous old fop this time.

Crusaderfan

I love rugby, but where is that going - without sponsorship nowhere and that is where it will end up as a sport.   The Democrats in the USA have clearly gone against anything where it is even remotely dealing with economic development outside of socialism.

I am not a religious fanatic - I just believe in freedom of people to believe in what they wish and not to undermine others.  If you are against religion - fine.

Unlike you and some others I define conspiracy theories otherwise then you obviously believe it means.   For me conspiracy theories are applicable when written and proof is absent.   What did I write about conspiracy theories?

I mentioned the issue of spying on people by the Obama administration.   Sorry - it did happen as was clear from the recent report of the Inspector General of Justice in which it was indicated that they used applications to the FISC to spy on US citizens – a court meant to deal with foreign spying.   The IG found that the court was abused through fraud by the FBI and that was done on an organized basis involving the Whitehouse.   Fraud was also committed by the Justice Department in actual cases of accusing people of committing crimes and prosecuted.  What I wrote was 100% proven.

The next thing I wrote about dealt with the famous issue of corruption under the  Obama administration.  Believe me there is written evidence of it in multitude.  Clinton used her private server for official use as well and so did her Campaign Manager Podesta.   Both their private servers were hacked and the information leaked through Wikileaks.  In one of the hacked documents – an e-mail sent by Clinton to Podesta she bragged that she has “direct access to Putin’s inner sanctum”  - her own words in inverted commas.        

There are ample evidence that they were both involved in corruption involving Russia and Ukraine.  So was Biden, Pelosi and Schiff.  Biden’s son Hunter was fired by the US Navy for drug abuse – he has no qualifications to justify any appointments like he was by a Ukraine firm Burisma – one of the most corrupt firms in the Ukraine.   Fact – but why was he appointed? Because his father as VP would stop any criminal investigations of the firm in Ukraine.   He bragged in public that he did by threatening to with-hold financial aid to Ukraine.  When Obama sent  Biden to China he took his son along with him  on Air Force 2, 

So what did the two return with?  Biden came back with the Chinese investing $1,5 billion in his sons company – has had no experience of any investment practices and the fact is that it was an obvious bribe.  Fact – Biden went to Beijing and he came back stating that China was no threat to the USA and within a month  Obama signed a trade agreement that sold the USA short,  

Just one question please.   The USA froze $400 million aid by the Shah in the 1970’s for planes - but those were never delivered.   In the negotiations about the Nuclear Ban Obama promised that they would pay the money back to Iran.  That sounds fair and reasonable.   Obama and his advisors then decided that an amount of $1,8 billion would be repaid – still fair and reasonable.   One would assume that the money would be paid through normal banking channels – but it as not.   Obama decided that the money should be paid in cash – why?   Proven fact is that $1,8 billion was loaded on a plane and sent to Teheran.  A receipt for $1,8 billion was provided – but the Iran  Government recently stated that they only received $1,32 billion.  Figure out what happened to the rest.

The above is not conspiracy theories it is factual and is proven by documentation.   I believe I am an honest person and not a crook.  I will never support socialism in any form and never support crooks in politics – you obviously are entitled to support whatsoever you please.

Your missing the point again, it still its all the others teams fault. Why have I never read anything from you or Beenshit calling out the orange one when he fucks up or says something stupid?. nothing he does and say is wrong as far as you two are concerned.

If you and beenshit were German and born in the 1920's both of you would be standing in the front ranks of Hitlers brown shirts saying nothing to see here but have you seen those commies actions.

And I am not saying that you are anti Jew or anything but you come across as someone blind to the faults on your side. If you were as impartial as you keep telling us you would not fail to mention the failings and problems on the Rep ublican side or are you telling me that there are none to mention?

Great, Sader. 

"And I am not saying that you are anti Jew or anything but you come across as someone blind to the faults on your side. "

Lead by example. Tell us exactly what you think of Ben Smith's kungfu kicks and how they are bad sportsmanship, cheating and shouldn't be allowed on the rugby field.

I'm all ears...

I have never said I support the AB's blindly. We have had our moments  as well (the very few instances that have happened)  the Brian O'Driscoll tackle for one.

I always though some times Ben Smith's aerial technique was borderline and some were certainly  not in the spirit of the game but certainly not even close to a  Kungfu kick. Can you post a link to some of these Kungfu kicks you are referring to as I tend to remember him leading with his knee not his feet. If he indeed kicks opposing players with his feet while taking a high ball then I would gladly agree with you that that behaviour is unacceptable.

Exactly.

From this, I understand that you are entirely unaware of what a flying kick looks like.

“  Throw in you muppets with your mindless rants and wacky conspiracies muddying the water even more.“

Exactly. A new conspiracy theory every second week. 

Take for instance this one. Trump colluded with the Russians. CNN and MSNBC confirmed it. Oh, no wait. That was the Dems. 

Let’s try this one. George Papadopoulos was working with the Russians.  CNN and MSNBC confirmed it. Oops, no that was the Dems as well. 

And then there was this one. Carter Page was a Russian asset. CNN and MSNBC confirmed it. What? You’re joking. Another Dem one? And Page was actually working for the CIA? But the FBI told  the FISA court that Page was not working with the CIA. Huhh? Really? They did that? The FBI really falsified a CIA email by changing the wording of the CIA email? Goodness.

What about this one. Mike Flynn is a double agent who is spying for the Russians. CNN and MSNBC confirmed it. Sorry, what are you saying? Another Dem conspiracy theory? Blimey. 

Yeah but what about this one. Trump bribed the Ukrainian President. CNN and MSNBC confirmed it. Say what? Are you kidding me? A Dems one as well? No way. 

But what about this one. Trump has built wire cages where illegal aliens are kept. Huhh? What are you saying? Obama built them in 2014? Really?

CF

I think you have misunderstood my repeated statements about Trump.   Trump fouls up too - he is only human.   His tweets are sometimes not in the best of taste and sometimes stupid,   I rather not deal with that in more detail.

However, unlike the Democrats he is not a crook and what they are accusing him of is total BS,  They lied about 99% of what they are accusing him of.   

That is why I defend him most of the time on site.   The lies are dividing the USA  and there is no justification of the new racism story about Floyd - he was a criminal and when the Police tried to arrest him he resisted.   I am not saying he should have been killed by that police idiot.   What I am saying is - the Democrats organized the "protests" and in the process the protestors murdered  15 people and destroyed the livelihoods of thousands of people.

The truth is that killing of unarmed people by the USA police  are actually extremely limited - in 2019 there were 19 such cases of which 9 were Blacks and 10 Whites,   There are roughly 900 000 Police in the USA so work out the percentage of Police who are effectively murderers - they have all been charged and convicted,  

Unlike what the Democrats and the media implies it is not genocide and the false narrative are spread in the media internationally and it endangers the lives of vulnerable minorities like in SA.

Excellent posts Mike and Windpomp. 

Mike I can see you are getting there fast now. 

What is going on now is an attempt to destroy the free democratic nation states of Europe and the USA etc en route to a world government. 

The USA is the big prize. 

There is now an unholy alliance between the Globalists and Communism with Islam being used to fuel the flames. 

These are all people who hate free speech, debate or any deviancy from what they determine is PC. 

 They are deeply facist in nature and racist as they hate white people with a passion. 

In the Bible (Book of Revelations) it speaks of The  anti christ who will rule the earth for a period of 42 months. It's called the Great Tribulation, the most horrific period in human history and is only cut short by the return of Christ Himself.

During these 42 months one third of humanity will die. Those who refuse the take the Mark with lose their heads - literally. Believers must not take the Mark regardless.

Without having the Mark we are told you will be unable to buy or sell. Excluded from all economic life doctors etc - everything.

You know if course how Gates wants everyone to have his vaccines otherwise no jobs no travel or whatever comes thereafter. 

So when will this all happen. The strange thing right now is that the Nationalists/Populist are winning, growing stronger by the day. However the power of Biblical prophecy cannot be denied as History PROVES.

Trump of course is fully against world government as his statements show repeatedly. Herein lies the fundamental reason he is smeared and lied about in the Globalist owned press and their dupes. 

Right now a big Trump win is on the cards. But what next will they try. Nothing has worked so far. In fact the left have been exposed as the freedom hating scum they are. 

So in my opinion, and I do not know the future only God does, I think Trump will win again against all odds. That said what the Bible says will come to pass. The push for this one world government dominated by the Globalist elite are very evident. At some time they will succeed. 

Meanwhile we believers rejoice because the return of Christ draws near. Maybe in our lifetime but we don't know. We only know the signs are there but a thousand years are like a day for the Lord. 

Lastly it seems to me the Globalist will use FEAR  to stampede humanity into their new world order. Things like Climate Change, pandemics, financial crises and a threat of a third world way to get people to agree to the loss of their freedom. 

Brain washed servile dupes like poor Redrooi and crusader twit will happily bow the knee. They were born for slavery.

These two weak minded dupes would be first in line to grovel before BLM. BLM of course don't give a hoot about black lives! 

As for music poor Redrooi and Crusadertwit couldn't discern the difference between some oak beating a drum and Beethovens 5th.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. 

How is the absurd Antufa Stan going Redrooi and Crusadertwit. CHAZ  is providing sheer comedy as they seen millions of votes Trump's way

The Demorats supporting burning, looting, arson and is great election ploy these to absurd nutjobs think!!!

Never mind the people most hurt are Blacks. Do you know under KKK  demonrat rule more black babies are aborted than are born. 

Blacks slaughter Blacks in Demonrat ruled cities but no word about these shocking stats. 

Retired Black Police Catsin murdered by looters CNN etc says nothing. But they say BLM! 

But all these two befuddled loons can grunt is Orange Man Bad. In with our Marxust/Globalist revolution. Make me an obedient slave as fast as possible they whine.lets burn down America. Let's destroy the economy, burn the flag, abolish the constitution and abolish the Police and let's the mob rule. Erase all history. Yes even get rid of Honest Abe's statue.

Up with Marx, Stalin and Mao!

Sor ry boys not this time Trump and America won't allow it.

SB 

I am not brainwashed and think independently and not want the newsmedia take total control of what is going on in the world more extensively by reading lots more on the internet.

What I came across is shocking - the main propaganda of twitter is from such models of Democracy like China and Iran.   What they road is not marked by Twitter and is outright propaganda. 

For the rest  what I road about above is not the drivel you and the others spout on site,    Extreme socialism do not allow any opposition and no freedom of choice.  Jobs is not an issue - people will be forced to work for slave wages like in Russia of old.  The working class was paid the equivalent of $30 a month when the Communist regime fell.   That system is still applied in China  where the labourers get paid $30 per month at present. 

The rest of the population will get food-stamps on a diet that will not be enough to allow for a decent meal every two days if the person is lucky.   That is my forecast based on what happened over the last century,     The people will be slaves  - nothing better.

 Now let me ask you something - do you have children?   Well remind them how you helped them into slavery of the worst kind.  Its coming - of that you can be sure,