Olympic Gold Winner in hospital after Toyko, despite being doubled jabbed.

She won gold a few months ago, and was double vaccinated - but still in hospital

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/madi-wilson-olympics-covid-hospitalised-b1924084.html

Anti-vaxxers are probably to blame...

The vaccine is ineffective.

Everyone is a carrier. Everyone contracts it. Even those carrying vaccine passports. Anyone can die from this bug. The vaccinated too. 

This virus is a flu type. There is no vaccine that guarantees immunity from flu type viruses. 

Don't be stupid.

The only thing worse than the vaccine ... is a second shot of the same ineffective rubbish.

You have to be seriously demented to get a booster shot to top your double ja b off.

If you've been vaccinated ... my condolences ... you cannot be unvaccinated ... but you can prevent an additional dose of the same rubbish entering your body.

In the end ... it's your choice.

In the emantime Taibiden has announced the forced vaccinations of all government staff and  army personnel - bar the Congress and White House staff to be vaccinated and the result was -

*     hundreds of doctors and  nursing  staff refusing to accept  vaccination  and walking off thei jobs instead - what do they know about the vaccination issue and is withheld from the public? and

*     Resignations has already started in the USA army on the issue - with officers leading the exodus,  . 

So SB  the main problems  are in Blue States - so it is not the rednecks refusing vaccination as you claim it is?    In New York  and New Jersey in hospitals are not dealing with  maternity cases anymore -  too many of the staff has walked off the job already so that service cannot be provided anymore.  

So chaos is already breaking out in the USA on the mandate issue - this time also in New York were the mandates are enforced..  With near to 70% of the Black population not vaccinated - three Black women walked into a New York eatery and demanded to be served.   When a Chinese waitress asked them to leave - they attacked her physically and in the end the three had to be removed.     So up turned the riotous and murderous terrorist arm of the Democrats - the BLM  - to protest against what happened to the three forced out.    Since the BLM rule the inner cities in the USA - the owner of the eatery out of fear closed the business and is unlikely to open it again.  

So at Del Rio in Texas there are now 15 000 Haitian  refugees camping under a bridge in Texas..    In  desperation the Texas Government asked the Federal Government  to  announce  a State of emergency  in Texas and send the Texas home guards to the border - some of them  on horseback.    When the Haitians attacked the riders the riders used whips to deter the attacks and  the  Absentee Deputy President  attacked the riders for using whips on the rioting Haitians.   The fake media wants to have a fainting fit  about the cruel riders.   

The Homeland Security Secretary turned up at the border and announced that the border is closed  and illegals would be returned  to their countries of origin - but he lied  as per normal.   Some of the Haitians are returned to Haiti - but the majority are distributed to US citiies as proven by photographs.    The  unfortunate ones identified to be flown back to Haiti attack the staff on the plain when it was about to land in Haiti.

In the meantime 35 State Governments - both Republicans  and  Democrats  affected by the illegal migrant wave wrote to Biden asking for a meeting to discuss the open border issue  without any response from the White House.   One other problem is that Talibiden issued  mandatory vaccination - but that does not apply to the illegal migrants,     

Chaos everywhere caused by the great hero of  SB  and others on site.    We are busy facing not only a worldwide crisis on international  level - but governance in the USA itself is reaching   disintegration point.                 

"Anyone can die from this bug. The vaccinated too"

100% correct

"The vaccine is ineffective"

100% rubbish

Question for you mike, you state hundreds of nurses and doctors are refusing the vaccine (in America I presume), what about the tens  or hundreds of thousands that are getting the vaccine . How do you explain them?

Never ceases to amaze me that the tin foil hat brigade will listen to the tiny  minority and ignore the vast majority as if the majority cannot be correct ever.

It is only the below-average IQ religious conspiracists that believe the vaccine is not better than no vaccine. 

Even the Taliban have approved the vaccine, and that says a lot.

Well compared to the likes of mike and beenshit the morons in the taliban look like Einstein

"It is only the below-average IQ religious conspiracists that believe the vaccine is not better than no vaccine. "

No, it's not every doctor out there is above average and every anti-vax doctor is smarter than you snarkhole every single one. Some people are cautious and concerned about the unintended long term effects of the vaccines and there are ample reasons to be concerned,  but it's shouted down and censored...Why? You tell me...fear is driving people insane...poor sods.

Some medical aids in South Africa will start rejecting claims from members at some point in the future, if those members refuse to take the vaccine..... do I think it is fair, no..... do I think they have the right to do it...… absolutely.

If you don't want to adhere to the revised terms and conditions of your medical aid, then get one that meets and suits your own requirements...… and if you don't, and you do get Covid and end up in ICU for a few weeks, you better hope you have a decent savings account in place

Slowly but surely, this is how things are going to pan out

I have not been to any church service this year and is not a religious maniac as you imply.   On the other hand  I also believe in science - but when a crook li9ke Faucci try and keep out o9f shit and use so-called science it becomes an abortion of science.    I pleaded all along that an independent Medical  Conference  be held with world wide expertise to decide how to handle the situation - not  only involving the corrupt and crooked Faucci.    

Get it out of your skull - this has nothing to do with religion and  science  and everything to do with politics.   

Where did I say I have not faith in mankind?  I have faith in democracy and freedom of speech.  If that is under attack by Democratic Party adherents, the fake media and the ultra-rich I object to it.          

@Mike, you took the vaccine - so I was not referring to you, or any conservatives that are smart enough to get vaccinated.

I was talking about/to Draad. 

CF

By the way I am vaccinated  and received both jabs - the second one had bad side-effects and I am unlikely to go for a third jab or for the next 20 jabs that may become  necessary.   Just a question - why all attention on vaccination - why not deal with medical treatment for the resultant health problems.     

No it happened in  four hospitals in New Jersey and New York where services mentioned were suspended.    The  Blue States are applying this same enfocements and the result would obviously be the same.    I am not listening to any minority - I think carefully o what is happening and so does most Americans.   Take a dose of the following though  -   In the November 2020 election in IOWA  Trump won with a majority of 8,2%  of the votes.    The latest opinion poll in IOWA indicates that Biden's support has dropped to 31%  and the gap difference is now 31%.     

I see the difference between maladministration and attacks on democracy  and criticize it - and I see what is actually happening and am not overly influenced by the media.   

The same people who drive us into the ground with stressful jobs and lifestyles and shit food stuffed with chemicals are now the same ones we have to believe care about our wellbeing. No government is looking in the mirror and saying "how can I make my people live more healthy lifestyles?". It's just "get the jab so the wheels can keep turning you overworked bunch of shits". Until the next slightly more dangerous than the flu sickness comes along and these stressed out, poorly fed immune compromised populations will be filling the hospitals again and another jab that will put multiple billions of dollars in all sorts of devious pockets will have to be rolled out again as a quick fix. Yay science.

The question the world needs to be asking is: what are we going to do to make sure a vaccine is never again needed for a slightly challenging coronavirus?

"I prefer the consensus of an industry. (e.g. 97% of mechanics say XYZ). 

Well, the scientific consensus today is that the world is not flat. (Should we not accept that?)

I will never be a good mechanic, so the best I can do is follow consensus and opinion leaders within the mechanic field. 

Science was stifled by the Church in the dark ages, where the Church murdered scientists because it conflicted with Dogma. 

It has been empirically proven that the earth is spherical...no need to trust in consensus, catch a ride with Branson and see for yourself. 

What do you think the consensus was based on? Faith? 

The consensus in the USA was entirey based on pressure and aften enough lies by Faucci.     The man is in the pcoket of Gates and other Pharma industry producers.   He ahs funded gain of function research adn lied in Senate about oit.   There was prroof that he was invovled and tried to protect himself and others from being exposed as collaborating with the Chinese Government in producing a scientifically engineered virus that killed millions of people.   

I do not believe a word Faucci said.   18 months ago masking is not of value - now it is.   Ypu must remember that he is dealing with Biden - a idiot of immense proportions.  and that is jsut not good enough.   26 out of 28 doctors on an advisable panel for the Health Deopartment based on science refuse to support third jabs  for younger people and referred to the obvious success in India dealing with the virus and some medical experts claim that comprehensive scientific evaluations should be done - following what Faucci and co are up to are to stifle science and not help in solving a worldwide solution to the problem.      

The consensus in the USA was entirey based on pressure and aften enough lies by Faucci.     The man is in the pcoket of Gates and other Pharma industry producers.   He ahs funded gain of function research adn lied in Senate about oit.   There was prroof that he was invovled and tried to protect himself and others from being exposed as collaborating with the Chinese Government in producing a scientifically engineered virus that killed millions of people.   

I do not believe a word Faucci said.   18 months ago masking is not of value - now it is.   Ypu must remember that he is dealing with Biden - a idiot of immense proportions.  and that is jsut not good enough.   26 out of 28 doctors on an advisable panel for the Health Deopartment based on science refuse to support third jabs  for younger people and referred to the obvious success in India dealing with the virus and some medical experts claim that comprehensive scientific evaluations should be done - following what Faucci and co are up to are to stifle science and not help in solving a worldwide solution to the problem.      

The consensus in the USA was entirey based on pressure and aften enough lies by Faucci.     The man is in the pcoket of Gates and other Pharma industry producers.   He ahs funded gain of function research adn lied in Senate about oit.   There was prroof that he was invovled and tried to protect himself and others from being exposed as collaborating with the Chinese Government in producing a scientifically engineered virus that killed millions of people.   

I do not believe a word Faucci said.   18 months ago masking is not of value - now it is.   Ypu must remember that he is dealing with Biden - a idiot of immense proportions.  and that is jsut not good enough.   26 out of 28 doctors on an advisable panel for the Health Deopartment based on science refuse to support third jabs  for younger people and referred to the obvious success in India dealing with the virus and some medical experts claim that comprehensive scientific evaluations should be done - following what Faucci and co are up to are to stifle science and not help in solving a worldwide solution to the problem.      

"What do you think the consensus was based on? Faith? "

Not faith, ignorance...

Nope, you are actually the one who would have gone with the consensus of the time...like you do now....it's you who live in the imaginary world...you have as much faith in what you perceive to be Science as I have in God...you don't really understand the concept of God and you understand science even less...

A brainwashed New Ager who have blind faith in whatever he's being told, yet have the gal l to call others zealots and simpletons...absolutely no self-awareness whatsoever. 

No, you are just stupid. Your ideology is a joke, and belongs in the dark ages. 

Just for you Snarkhole, hate to break it to you : “Remember, when you are dead, you do not know you are dead. It is only painful for others. The same applies when you are stupid.”

PS: I don't adhere to any ideology...what I believe doesn't impact your existence in any way whatsoever...why does it bother you so much? Focus on your own sh!t and leave me be, why's that so difficult for you?...you're the other side of the happy-clappy coin...you are what you despise,  but you're too committed to even realize. 

SB

I do not think that anybody is living in members of the site being primitives.    Maybe all of us have their own believes and tend to be taking the part of some people.   

As  to conspiracy theories  the biggest one this century was the Russian Hoax  lie that Trump was colluding with the Russians to win thee 2016  election .    You, Rooinek and others were warned repeatedly that it was based on lies and about Clinton's ties to Putin.    So are you and the onrher members conspiracy theorists too? 

The answer to my mind is that impartial  medical specialsts should look at ll the data and reliability of the data and based the way forward  and also find a medical treatment of Covid positives and sick people.   An international panel would be advisable since too many of the US Health Services are bound by politics and ties to the Pharma Industry.            

It has nothing to do with the mark of the beast.

That's stupid.

It's simply rejecting the nonsense that you've swallowed as fact SharkShit.

You say it cures. 

I say BULLSHEEAT. 

The only thing I've seen from the vaccine is blood clots ... comatose patients  ... hospitalization ... ventilators ...  reinfection ... death.

Your vaccine has prevented nothing at all.

I must give you a big thank you, SharkShit. The mere fact that you got the jab is reason enough for me to celebrate that I didn't.

You are probably one of the top three most ignorant posters on this site.

Soooo ... Thanks a lot my man.