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OUCH! Richard Ebright and 15 Top Scientists Eviscerate Fauci and Daszak in Lancet Medical Journal

Started by Beeno116 REPLIES1,696 VIEWS· 20 Sept 2021, 17:57
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Sept 2021, 17:57
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20 Sept 2021, 17:57#1



The world‘s leading medical journal The Lancet has now published an article explicitly condemning the letter organized by Dr. Anthony Fauci, Peter Daszak of the EcoHealth Alliance, Jeremy Farrar of the Wellcome Trust, and others.

On February 2nd 2020, when confronted with first evidence the Covid pandemic may have originated in the Wuhan Lab he funded via Daszak’s EcoHealth Alliance, Fauci organized a conference call, apparently to discuss how to suppress this dangerous information, since the trail led straight to them.

On Feb. 19, 2020, Daszak, Farrar and others published a letter in The Lancet, saying that “We stand together to strongly condemn conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin.”

This letter was then used to suppress and censor the Chinese lab leak theory in Mainstream Media and on social media for over a year. There was, and remains, no evidence for the “scientists’” claims.

Now, a new article in The Lancet by Jacques van Helden of Aix-Marseille University in France, Richard Ebright of Rutgers U. and 14 other authors has skewered the Fauci apologists’ unscientific Fake News “which claimed overwhelming support for the hypothesis that the novel coronavirus causing the COVID-19 pandemic originated in wildlife.”

“The authors associated any alternative view with conspiracy theories by stating: “We stand together to strongly condemn conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin”. The statement has imparted a silencing effect on the wider scientific debate, including among science journalists,” Ebright and colleagues charge.

Now, a new article in The Lancet by Jacques van Helden of Aix-Marseille University in France, Richard Ebright of Rutgers U. and 14 other authors has skewered the Fauci apologists’ unscientific Fake News “which claimed overwhelming support for the hypothesis that the novel coronavirus causing the COVID-19 pandemic originated in wildlife.”

“The authors associated any alternative view with conspiracy theories by stating: “We stand together to strongly condemn conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin”. The statement has imparted a silencing effect on the wider scientific debate, including among science journalists,” Ebright and colleagues charge.

“As scientists, we need to evaluate all hypotheses on a rational basis, and to weigh their likelihood based on facts and evidence, devoid of speculation concerning possible political impacts. Contrary to the first letter published in The Lancet … we do not think that scientists should promote “unity” (“We support the call from the Director-General of WHO to promote scientific evidence and unity over misinformation and conjecture”).

As shown above, research-related hypotheses are not misinformation and conjecture. More importantly, science embraces alternative hypotheses, contradictory arguments, verification, refutability, and controversy. Departing from this principle risks establishing dogmas, abandoning the essence of science, and, even worse, paving the way for conspiracy theories. Instead, the scientific community should bring this debate to a place where it belongs: the columns of scientific journals.”

It is hard to imagine how Fauci, Daszak, Farrar and their co-conspirators can remain in their positions after this brutal scientific takedown.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Sept 2021, 20:00
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20 Sept 2021, 20:00#2

Beeno

It never was based on science - it was keeping out of shit for funding the gain of function research at the Wuhan Laboratory - potentially going to jail for causing a worldwide pandemic.   That is why Faussi is constantly flip-flopping  on what should be done.   I agfree if there was a real scientific debate most of the covid probl ems would have been solved by now.    They would have for instance discovered a medicine for treating of patents in hospital.

Turning the virus into a political campaign issue in the USA by the Democrats were  total imbecility and  we got to the point of non-science  taking over.        

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
12 Sept 2025, 09:28
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12 Sept 2025, 09:28#3

I don't think Beeno was that far off with this post

I think Fauci is in really deep shit now ......

Especially given what has already now been discovered about him lying under oath before Congress, and also when and if he provides everything listed here by the US Senate Chairman Rand Paul, to be discussed when Fauci testifies again from Oct to Dec 2025

They are demanding every single Email and attachment... whether it was on a personal or government issued device.... every Whatsapp, Telegram, Facebook, IMessenger message, and all online or app usernames, voicemails and other information... going back from 2018 to 2023

This shit is about to get very real, very quick for Fauci....check this link out

https://x.com/SenRandPaul/status/1965766261918630136?t=beJUnKqGSsVB3i1i6rsY_w&s=03

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
12 Sept 2025, 10:23
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12 Sept 2025, 10:23#4

How do you remember those old posts, DA?



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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
12 Sept 2025, 11:53
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12 Sept 2025, 11:53#5

For a moment there I thought Beeno had done a Lazarus.

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
12 Sept 2025, 14:44
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12 Sept 2025, 14:44#6

How do you remember those old posts, DA?

I can't and don't remember them Plum, I just searched for Fauci on the Ruckers Forum in Google because I knew myself and quite a few others discussed him many times in the past, and I just brought back one of those posts to update with this new information

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
12 Sept 2025, 16:49
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12 Sept 2025, 16:49#7

I think Fauci is in really deep shit now ......


He's not. Fauci is immune from being prosecuted for any alleged federal offenses (such as lying under oath before congress) between January 1st 2014 and and January 20th 2025 by Biden's pre-emptive pardon.


President pardon's are generally considered irrevocable under USA law. Neither congress, the courts or a President can overturn one.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Sept 2025, 18:32
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12 Sept 2025, 18:32#8

You’re right, the little man in a suit may have been incompetent, but he’s safe. His reputation, however, continues to suffer from a dose of reality,

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
12 Sept 2025, 19:59
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12 Sept 2025, 19:59#9

Little man in suit?...always get the sense you compensating.


I've no doubt his reputation will stand the test of time.




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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Sept 2025, 20:26
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12 Sept 2025, 20:26#10

Nope he’s toast

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Sept 2025, 20:34
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12 Sept 2025, 20:34#11

Stav


There is a problem though - all documents was signed by an Autopen and Biden actually did not use the pen himself or even authorize the usage of the autopen to sign documents,


The real problem is that Presidents in the past use pardons after people has been convicted of crimes and in the case of Biden the Autopen handlers "pardon people" from being investigated for crimes they committed. The last case where that happened in 1844 the Supreme Court ruled that pardons like that represents "admisssion of guilt" and the Presidents had not pardoned people before they were found guilty of crimes since then .


With the evidence being mounting that Biden's mental problems caused major problems for the country, I would not be surprized if his Pardons do not find its way the Sureme Court for a ruling to prevent pardons for people giving them tf the Biden pardons for crimes they have committed prevented them from being prosecuted,


There was one exception Trump varied from the principle laid down in 1844 and that related to 400 people held in jail without trial since January 2021. The process the Justice Department used unconstitutional ways by threatening them thy would be held in jail indefinitely without trial unless they sign admission of guilt forms concocted by the Department. As to be expected the case ended up in the Supreme Court and in December 2024 the Court ruled the system used by the Justice Department was unconsmtitutional and the charges laid was not substantiated by evidence - so the Court ruled that the Department should lay trespassing charges and not the charges they used against prisoners forced into signing admission of guilt fines. Since it was a proven case of judicial abuse Trump pardoned not only people convicted since August 2021 - but ordered the 400 people held in jail without trial being released from prison.


The situation is complicated situation with the judicial system systematically abused by the Autopen Presidency leaving it in chaos and will take more than a year to clean up the mess The matter of pardons will find its way to the Constitutional Court on two grounds - namely whether the President has any rights to grant pardons before matters have gone to court and whether President can issue pardons so as to prevent ciminal invesigations of crimes actually committed by pardoned people.


So I am not sure where Stav got the idea from that the Preesident has tthe right to undermine judicial porcesses like the case was withe the Aitopen handlers and pretent it was an PO of the President,


. . . . . . .

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Sept 2025, 22:48
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12 Sept 2025, 22:48#12

See Stav now you’ve unleashed Killer Mike….good luck!

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AJHPro3,183 posts
13 Sept 2025, 21:16
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13 Sept 2025, 21:16#13

If the legal powers that are investigating the "Autopen Pardons" prove that Biden did not authorize the "Pardons" but someone else did Fauci is indeed in deep legal peril.


So until this Autopen issue is resolved Fauci should still change his underwear twice a day because he still has many other legal issues to navigate that have been placed on the backburner and he will be held to account one way or the other.


Even if the Pardon holds he has lost all creditability with both the local population as well as in the Medical circles world wide.

The FBI and DOJ surely have documents that will surface once they are certified and witnesses are cross-examined to nail Fauci to the wall.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
13 Sept 2025, 23:10
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13 Sept 2025, 23:10#14

Even if the Pardon holds he has lost all creditability with both the local population as well as in the Medical circles world wide.


No he hasn't. His reputation among the American public is deeply split, mostly along political lines and it has been for some time. His reputation among medical circles world wide remains high.

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
15 Sept 2025, 08:07
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15 Sept 2025, 08:07#15

So until this Autopen issue is resolved Fauci should still change his underwear twice a day because he still has many other legal issues to navigate that have been placed on the backburner and he will be held to account one way or the other.

My thoughts as well AJH

No he hasn't. His reputation among the American public is deeply split, mostly along political lines and it has been for some time. His reputation among medical circles world wide remains high.

Nah, his reputation has taken a hiding in so many ways already, and I reckon there will be a lot more daming information coming out after all this information is obtained.

Time will tell .....

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
15 Sept 2025, 10:51
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15 Sept 2025, 10:51#16

God bless Tony Fauci ........... spends his entire life helping others only to have the batshit brigade shit upon him.

Shame on you Mozart

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
15 Sept 2025, 14:30
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15 Sept 2025, 14:30#17

Nah, his reputation has taken a hiding in so many ways already, and I reckon there will be a lot more daming information coming out after all this information is obtained.

Time will tell .....


Nothings changed. One section of American society dislikes him for various reasons, such as them being anti-vax, anti-lockdown, anti-mask or because they believe that Covid was a conspiracy or he was involved in gain of function research in China that was possibly linked to Covid, while some just think he did a bad job handling the pandemic.


The other section of society think he did a good job with the pandemic and that he's the victim of a political witch hunt.


I've seen nothing to indicate that the majority of the medical profession globally have a negative opinion of Fauci.

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