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'Panic' in Ukraine as leaked confidential Trump peace plan astounds: report

Started by Denny8 REPLIES579 VIEWS· 18 Feb 2025, 12:36
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
18 Feb 2025, 12:36
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18 Feb 2025, 12:36#1

The UK-based Telegraph newspaper has obtained a copy of a proposed peace plan being pitched by the Trump administration to Ukraine that has reportedly set off "panic" in Kyiv.

As the Telegraph writes, the plan delivered to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy last week would "amount to the US economic colonization of Ukraine, in legal perpetuity" and also "implies a burden of reparations that cannot possibly be achieved."


In sum the plan would guarantee the United States half of the revenues generated by the extraction of resources in Ukraine going forward, as well as half of revenues generated by "all new licenses issued to third parties" in the country.


While Zelenskyy had in the past proposed developing a partnership with the United States to extract key minerals in his country, the proposed deal goes far beyond anything he pitched to President Donald Trump in recent months.

According to the Telegraph, "Trump’s demands would amount to a higher share of Ukrainian GDP than reparations imposed on Germany at the Versailles Treaty, later whittled down at the London Conference in 1921, and by the Dawes Plan in 1924." At the same time, Trump plans to entirely let Russia off the hook for its invasion of Ukraine three years ago that has resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths in both countries.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Feb 2025, 12:55
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18 Feb 2025, 12:55#2

Leaked conidenial Trump peace PLn or xconcoction by th media about so-called peace plan. My guess e second one is true. A thsis atge there is no peace plan and what will send Kiev into panic would eb the likely incsotence is compilation of a Cnstitution to restore Democacy in the Ukraine needed sice Ukraine has no Onstitution at all. But th latter is a guess as well.- he es si likely a concocted issue by Zelenskyy who is faid he will lose power in Ukrine and in he e go o jail fo lootig of aid grants to Ukaine.


There is no chnce he will survive in a constitutional democracy he is not an honest person. .


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sharkbokCaptain20,097 posts
18 Feb 2025, 13:00
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18 Feb 2025, 13:00#3

Dumbmike, the backward redneck...

He complains about Democracy in Ukraine, but Russia has Putin who has been in charge for almost as long as Stalin. Putin is also one of the richest people in the world.


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
18 Feb 2025, 14:27
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18 Feb 2025, 14:27#4

He complains about Democracy in Ukraine


He whines about the Democrats on a daily basis.

Hates the Democrats.....says they're are corrupt.

Never has a bad thing to say about Putin.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
18 Feb 2025, 14:39
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18 Feb 2025, 14:39#5

For the sake of interest, give me a deal that will make you happy, that you think will make Ukraine happy, and that you believe Putin will accept. I'm not stirring, I'm genuinely interested because I struggle to come up with one myself. Putin is not going to take anything that doesn't make him come out golden at the other end, and then we're back to war.

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sharkbokCaptain20,097 posts
18 Feb 2025, 15:20
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18 Feb 2025, 15:20#6

Yes, Pakie. There is no deal that either side will want to accept. The likes of DumbMike have been saying for ages that peace is the best solution, but he wants Ukraine to accept Russia's terms.


The only exit plan for Putin is to keep 20% of Ukraine's land, with the possibility of getting the rest in the future.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Feb 2025, 15:26
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18 Feb 2025, 15:26#7

Jus t to put he matter straight on the reconstruction in Ukraine - he would not have anything bar what plans is suggeted for Rwconstruction,


Another case of media lying.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Feb 2025, 17:29
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18 Feb 2025, 17:29#8

Trump is planning to keep half the revenues from the Rare earths……and the moon is made of green cheese. You can’t fix stupid.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
18 Feb 2025, 18:30
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18 Feb 2025, 18:30#9

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