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‘Peace Has a Name: Donald Trump’ — Viktor Orbán Says Trump Only Leader ‘Strong Enough’ to End War in Ukraine

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Feb 2024, 19:29
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02 Feb 2024, 19:29#1


Donald Trump is the only leader in the United States or Europe who is “strong enough” to put an end to the war in Ukraine, Viktor Orbán said as the Russian invasion of Ukraine approaches its second anniversary.

“Peace has a name, that of Donald Trump,” Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán told the French news magazine Le Point this week.

Despite fatigue with funding NATO’s proxy war with Russia setting in across the West, globalist politicians appear intent on continuing the war no matter what. For the Hungarian leader, who has been a lone voice among European heads of state calling for peace talks between Moscow and Kyiv — leading to accusations seeking peace makes him a Kremlin stooge — the only viable offramp for the conflict is for his longtime friend and ally to return to the White House.

“We should not forget that Trump was one of the most successful foreign policy presidents of the United States. Not a single war was started by him. And the Abraham Accords were the only serious chance to generate peace, balance and an acceptable form of life in the very difficult Middle East region,” Orbán said.

“My personal conviction remains that if, in February 2022, the American president had been called Donald Trump, there would be no more war in Europe. Today I don’t see anyone other than him, neither in Europe nor in America, who is a leader strong enough to stop the war,” the Hungarian leader declared.

Legacy media outlets and globalist EU politicians have begun to openly warn of the claimed danger to Europe posed by Trump coming back to power — ignoring the destabilising policies of the Biden administration, from the birth of another European migrant crisis following the botched withdrawal of Afghanistan to war breaking out in Europe under his watch.

On the other hand, Orbán argued that a second Trump presidency would be beneficial for Europe, saying: “Let’s go back to 2016, during his first campaign, before the election. At the time, everyone said that the election was won for Hillary Clinton and not for Donald Trump. I clearly said at that time that we needed Donald Trump in Europe,” Orbán said.

“Because when Trump says ‘Make America Great Again’ or ‘America First’, it legitimizes us to say ‘Make Europe Great Again’ and ‘Europe First’. Put Europe first, put France first, put Hungary first. This is the normal attitude in international politics, if we wish to find agreements based on the basis of national interest.”


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Feb 2024, 19:30
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02 Feb 2024, 19:30#2
Farage: Ukraine War Never Would Have Happened Under Trump, Dangerous World Needs Him BackBrexit leader Nigel Farage claimed that Vladimir Putin’s Russia never would have invaded Ukraine under the watch of Donald Trump and that the increasingly dangerous world needs him back at the helm in the White House.

Speaking ahead of the Iowa caucus, which saw Donald Trump trounce the competition in a landslide victory in which he secured votes than all other candidates combined, Nigel Farage said that the American people are not alone in wanting the former president back, but that the world would benefit from his return.

“I think the issue of the border, the result of crime problems that you’re seeing in American cities – Chicago is in a terrible, terrible state – I think people look at Trump and say, ‘you know what? This is a tough guy who will actually stand up and fight against that stuff’,” Mr Farage told Sky News.

“Since he’s gone, the world is now a much more dangerous place than it was before. So I think all these factors are playing for him,” Farage continued, adding that Trump “had a very successful foreign policy when he was president.”

“There is this sort of argument in Europe that he will blow up NATO… I don’t believe any of that for a moment,” he said.

“What he wanted was for NATO members to pay their fair share. I don’t believe that Putin would have invaded Ukraine had Trump been in the White House.”


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Feb 2024, 19:32
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02 Feb 2024, 19:32#3

YES INDEED THE WORLD NEEDS PRESIDENT TRUMP BACK AND THE GLOBALIST TRAITORS SENT PACKING AS A FIRST STEP - THEN ITS TIME TO TRY THEM FOR TREASON

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
02 Feb 2024, 19:45
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02 Feb 2024, 19:45#4

.720 × 695

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
02 Feb 2024, 22:57
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02 Feb 2024, 22:57#5

Orlbad se gat.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
03 Feb 2024, 10:25
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03 Feb 2024, 10:25#6

Hey blobbie you old nutjob that post describes the demonrats perfectly.

You of course liv in an upside down world.

Yes indeed the world needs the sanity of Trump desperately. Just hoping no more wars break out. Tings not looking good now regarding Iran and China have a closing window of opportunity to grab Taiwan before trump gets back. They have the goods on corrupt pervert, tyrant and traitor Joe Biden so any USA response will be for show only is my take.




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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Feb 2024, 01:14
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 SS 

Just a question about  your 14 points. above.    How come there is ample p;roof that all of them applies totally in fact to the Democratic Party and the Biden Regime.   That is why Biden is so unpopular as  President.    Amazing - not so.       

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04 Feb 2024, 03:17
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Feb 2024, 08:22
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04 Feb 2024, 08:22#9

Why don't you answer my question - dimness.    Point out to me what is wrong  with  my statement - not post a pic of a peron probably as brainwashed into idiocy as you are.

       

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
04 Feb 2024, 22:55
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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
04 Feb 2024, 23:25
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
05 Feb 2024, 06:41
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05 Feb 2024, 06:41#12

Mike ou sharktwit was always saying young people were voting Demonrat. 

So bad have things become that now young people are equally voting Trump. This trend towards Trump will continue

Sharktwit and Blobbrain are too drooling loons.

By the way I see that Luciferian Taylor Swift says Christians should support abortion. Says she is a Christian.

Abortion is MURDER and those murdering babies need to know this.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Feb 2024, 13:41
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BB

In view if the lies and distortion on site about the political issues in the USA I spent virtually the whole day on writing the following - not a word I wrote is not supported by documentary proof:-

In recent postings  so beloved to be quoted  by BB on site two issues  quoted CNN comments about the alleged collusion between Trump and Russia – as well as the issue of corruption involving Manafort in Russia and Ukraine  – as well as  14 points proving that Trump Is a Fascist should he get power again he would institute a dictatorship based on the 14 points posted by BB.

It is a historic fact that whatsoever the democrats are accusing the Republicans of doing  -they in fact are involved in doing.  

However,  lets analyse with proof on the two issues separately – even though they are in some respect overlapping.

Russian Collution

There were two Special Councils appointed to investigate the issue of alleged Russian collusion.   The first one led by Mueller found no proof of collusion between Putin and Trump at all.    However this had serious legal consequences and came up with an allegation that Russians  posted messages on Facebook supporting Trump’s candidacy in his report.   The problem was there was indeed such messages posted costing in total $41 000.    USA elections cost hundreds of billions of dollars.     What Mueller did was to refer to those postings as some veiled proof that Trump accepted the support and should have somehow stopped adverts by Russians.    Mueller’s second allegation was that despite the fact that he could find no links between Putin and  Trump – he could not exonerate Trump of having used such links.    In the hearing on his report in the House a Republican member of the House concentrated on that comment and referred to he issue – claiming nobody in the USA cannot exonerate anybody from being tried for criminal offenses – not even he President of the  USA.     It was a severe embarrassment for Mueller and he admitted that he put that’s etense in “since the Attorney General of the USA – namely Barr - might not know about it.

 Mueller had a second problem and that is the fact that he referred Manafort to the Justice Department for prosecution about involvement in Russian and Ukraine corruption.    In his report hr referred to two suspects.    Suspect 1 was Manafort – suspect 2 he did not name – and h e duiid not refer the issue for prosecution.    So who was the second suspect?    It turned out to be a guy by the name of John Podesta – the campaign manager of Clinton.     Th e Manafort-Podesta co-operation  was formed in 2012 and dealt in corrupt activities in Ukraine and Russia.    The problem was that they could not take the matter to court without exposing the involvement of Podesta in corruption in a Court case against Manafort the role of Podesta would be exposed , so they charged Manafort not with corruption involving Russia and Ukraine, but with TAX EVASION iro which was found guilty.  .                       is second reference wa to

         

Before he was appointed as campaign manager of Clinton Podesta was receiving various “presents”  from Russian Companies.   He first one was in a company started by  Podesta with a capital investment of $32 million.   A Russian Company invested $168 million in the company enabling much  bigger operations by the company.   Aside from that Podesta got a present of 75 000 shares in a Russian company as a present.   Before he joined the  Obama WH he transferred the shares to a company owned by his daughter registered in Vermont.   

On the other hand Clinton was also involved in Ukraine corruption.   While she was Minister of State she helped Ukraine gtting a loan of $36 billion from the IMF.    The money was paid into a bank operating  in Kiev on the understanding that they would pay out the money for the needed projects.   The first payment made was a deposit of $38 million by the Bank to the Clinton Foundation – used by the Clintons  to launder money into the USA.    The Bank concerned wet bankrupt in 2017 basically since it was an ultra-corrupt institution used for money laundering.

Surprisingly the documents ended up in the hands of Fox News and in an interview with Podesta he could not deny what happened and started  squealing  about the documents being stolen from his computer by the Russians.    That was  a lie as well – it was in fact discovered by a local fundi who got into Podesta’s computer by using the secret code used by Podesta to enter his computer – the word being “PASSWORD”.    A crook Podesta is and a stupid one as well.    In any event the documents was delivered to Wikileaks.    From there it finds its way to Fox News.   After Podesta served as Campaign Manager he was appointed by Biden to manage the Budget allocation for Green Projects and with  him in charge it is only a question of how much of that fund was looted.

But there was another issue receiving wide coverage in the media – and that was that the Russians hooked into the DNC computer system at election time.   The question is did I really happen?    The normal process in such  a case was to report such actions to the F BI who would the investigate it.   The DNC decided not to report it to the FBI but employed a Ukraine company using  a process called “Crowdstrkie” to investigate the issue,    What the DNC claimed was stolen documents from their  computer was information on opinion polls that was already published in the media before the alleged hooking took place – so it was a lie of the DNC as well.

Clinton and the DNC then appointed an ex-MI6 character Steele to investigate the Russian Collusion story and he brought out a report paid for by Clinton and the D NC called the Steele Dossier.   The D Durham report indicated that the FBI promised Steele a payment of $1 million if he could provide authentic evidence to proof his allegations in the compilation of the Dossier was confirmed.   The FBI soon realized it was a fabrication and squad so in public they claimed the Steele Dossier was rubbish, but in fact they used  the Steele dossier to get permission of th e FIC curt to spy on the Trump election campaign.     That was exposed in the Inspector General report on the issue

Thus far there were ample evidence of corruption involving  Ukraine and Russia in evidence, the media hysterics about Trump and Putin collusion worried Podesta – fearing  that he would lose his Russian sponsors.     So he sent an e-mail to Clinton expressing his concerns about the anti-Russian campaigns in the media.  She responded that he must not worry and added that “She had direct access to Putin’s inner sanctum”.

SO WHO WAS COLLUDING WITH THE RUSSIAN G OVENMENT IF THE ABOVE PROVEN FACTS ARE BORNE IN MIND.   EVIDENCE INDICATED THAT IT WAS CLINTON AND THE DEMOCRATS – NOT TRUMP.

The 14 point DICTATORSHIP PROPAGANDA Issue

i indicated that there is clear evidence that all 14 points is being used by the Democrats and the Biden Administration at present.    

1         Powerful and continued nationalism          

There is a campaign in evidence that indicates the above is BS.   The media is promoting  an idea of a borderless world governed by the moneyed elite.    That in effect means that there would be a Worldwide dictatorship runs by the WEF.   You are advised to study the program of the WEF on their website.   Everybody opposing their ideas are now accused of being Fascist ultra-nationalists – which in effect is a load of media BS – the WEF are in reality representing the Fascist ideology.     According to the media any politicians committed to enhance the interests of voters are guilty of the alleged ultra-nationalism.    By the way the media supporting the Democrats are strictly controlled by the Ultra-Rich – so there is no threat to Democracy by Trump or any other leaders that oppose the WEF.

2      Disdain for the protection of Human Rights                          

 If ever there was a sustained attack on human rights in the USA it wad displayed by the Biden Administration.    So take the issue of freedom of speech as a typical example.    Before Musk exposed what was going on it became clear that there were weekly meetings between the CIA, the FBI and Homeland Security with the media platforms and other media institutions to decide on what news is to be published and what not.    What was not to be published included everything to the detriment of the Biden WH and the Democrats.   A no-no for example was the chaos on the Mexican border caused by the influx by now of approximately 9 million illegal migrants.    In fact the Open Border Policy was prescribed by Soros – the largest funder of the Democratic Party and implemented by Biden.    In fact Biden support the unconstitutional regime in Ukraine all out.   Ukaine at present is the epitome as to what a dictatorship means.    Zeleskyy had all the opposition members of the Ukraine Parliament arrested in early February 2022 and they are still held by the Ukraine Government.  

Now back to the USA the F IC court found that the FBI illegally spied on 278 000 opponents of he Biden Regime.   100% Practised by the Biden Regime

3     Identification od “enemies” as a unifying cause                

This really is a joke in bad taste attribting  anything like that to Trump.    Biden in  continuing speeches called opposition to him “White Domestic Terrorism”    That include also members of the Catholic Church – surprisingly Biden claims he is a Catholic himself – but that does not stop the FBI to investigate priests and choirmasters of the Church to identify for the Church  members to be put on the “Domestic terrorist watch list”   The parents of children who attend School board meetings to object against woke education prescribed by the  Biden  Administration as “Domestic Terrorists.   If that is not BS spreading  by Biden and Co what is.  For them any vote against them are enemies of the USA.   100% PRACTISED BY THE BidenRegime.

4     Supremacy of the Military

Trump was not ineresed in using the military anywhere – he tried desperately to stabilize the world based on two issues – the capacity of the US military to be strong  enough to be respected and a strong  response to potential troublemakers.     He tried to reduce war by an agreement to withdraw the NATO allies from Afghanistan through negotiation – supported by the 4 NATO members with a soldiers in Afghanistan and during negotiations Trump showed the Taliban leaders air photos of their Afghanistan homes and promised the that nothing will remain of their homes if theym breach the agreement.     The Germans was the first troops to leave Afghanistan in an orderly manner and took all Germans and collaborators as well as  armaments with them.    When the Taliban occupied the city where the Germans the bombing  threat by Trump was ignored by  Biden.   In any event the media claim that Putin was paying bounty fr every NATO soldier killed was a lie and dismissed by all 5 Governments – in the year the negotgiations lasted not a single US or allied soldxier was killed in Afghanistan 

A new threat of freedom In the USA is an announcement by one of the Democratic Party Senators that the illegal migrants would be drafted into the US Army and receive US citizenship when it happens..   What the hell does that mean?   Are they going to use migrants in the army to oppress opposition to their regime?   None of the migrants have been questioned as to their backgrounds and bearing in mind that 75% of the migrants from 110 countries worldwide could easily include terrorists and Chinese Communist Party supporters if the moans of the FBI about the issue is borne in mind.  In any event what was taken down were effectively only their names and they were released into the country – nobody actually knows where they are at present.   100% practised by the Biden Regime.  

5   Rampant sexism

What the hell does that mean.   Only BS ters will understand that one.  

6   Controlled mass media

Already mentioned above  as exposed by Musk of weekly meetings to prevent the media from publishing  anything detrimental to the Biden Regime.   100% practised by the Biden Regime.                                      

7    Obsession with National Security      

The FBI under total control of the Democratic Party is screaming  murder about the issue of the thread of illegal migrants posed by the million entering  he USA.     It si not an issue for anybody and reserve for usage by the Democrats

8     Religion and Government intertwined     

It is funny – but the  only party using  Black churches to get Blacks to vote for them is the Demcoatic Party.    The idea that the religions are intertwined with Government is BS.    Thre is no proof of that idiocy ever in any party – bar the Democrats – in the USA..   The usg ae ofc the Biden Administration to spy on Church members is not Constitutional but happens anyway.   Demcorats 100%   guilty.

9      Corporate Power is protected

This is  a funny comment coming from the above.   The US  Government under Biden is a puppet of the ultra-rich funders of the Democratic Party.   The biggest contributor to the Democratic Party is Soros.    He wrote out the Open Border Policy and the Law and Order policy of the present Regime.    His son attends monthly meetings in the WH to ensure the policies prescribed by Soros is adhered to.        The same applies to the Health and Green policies prescribed by Bill Gates.    In his case the monthly meetings are with the Secretary for Energy.

In return they made sure that the media they own protect the Biden Administration from criticism.   So once again the Democrats are 100% guilty

10    Labor Power is suppressed       

The overwhelming support base of Trump is from the Labor class,   Would that be the case if Labor Power is suppressed?    By the way the Trade Unions in the USA has been allig ned with the Democratic Party for decades.   They lost their base support of the workers  because of th at and corruption with in unions.   The Unions apparently are just (like it was in the USSR under Stalin) partners of the Democrats in bribery and corruption.   The Democrats are 100% guilty again since the Unions represent the Party and not their worker members   

11     Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts    

Are you talking of thew Woke culture here?   The Democratic Party organized and funded riots ikn 2020 that destroyed monuments and the Global Warming  activists are attacking art and culture projects all over the USA and the EU countries,     So who  is guilty here?

12     Obsession with Crime and Punishment

The Soros policy implemented by the Biden Administration has led to huge increases in crime in especially cities controlled by the Democrats.   Chicago and New Orleans  are now t e most dangerous cities in the Americas – both North and South.   The police are under constant attack by the media and the Demcoratic Party politicians.   Fact is the Democratic Party is guilty of promotion of crime in the USA.    Guilty 100% of this one as well

13   Rampant cronyism and Corruption         

The Biden Adminsitration si by a mile the most corrupt Administration in the history of the USA.   Since they are under Protection of the Justice Department and the FBI – the allegations are ignored by the media.    It is time that you start doing  research  on this issue.    There are guilty Republicans as well – but in the main it is the preserve of the Democratic Party.    That is why the Democrats love wars – being  not subjected to audit corruption becomes never-ending .       Democrats 1000% guilty of this one.

20     Election Fraud

You will have a hard time convincing  82% of the voter in the USA that voter identification when registering as a voter or voting is an absolute requirement.    Why is the D emcoratic Party opposing that one.   In other opinion polls 62%  of the voters now believe that the 2020 was fraudulent    Democrats 100% of that one as well. 

             

       

 

               

  


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