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'Picked a bad candidate': Conservative pops MAGA's bubble about Trump

Started by Denny24 REPLIES3,335 VIEWS· 24 Aug 2024, 11:08
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
24 Aug 2024, 11:08
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24 Aug 2024, 11:08#1

The Republican Party cannot blame the media's positive reaction to Vice President Kamala Harris for the downturn in their fortunes, wrote National Review executive editor Mark Antonio Wright. Rather, their problem begins with the fact that they "picked a bad candidate" to lead the ticket.

The National Review is one of the nation's most prominent conservative publications, and has stood by Republicans for decades — but in recent years, many of its authors have expressed queasiness with former President Donald Trump.

"The reason why the Republican Party is, at the moment, on track to lose the 2024 election is that the Republican Party is a minority coalition that picked a very unpopular 78-year-old retread as its candidate," wrote Wright. "Trump's weakness only remained hidden for much of this year because President Joe Biden was struggling with his campaign, and voters desperately wanted an alternative to redoing the 2020 election. And now they have one."

"Is Harris an ideal candidate? Is she an incredibly talented orator? Is she deft on her feet and nimble in debate? Is she a famous wonk? Does she have a long track record of competence at the state and federal level? Has she been scrutinized by a tough no-nonsense press and come out stronger on the other side?" wrote Wright. "No, of course not — but she’s an alternative to Trump/Biden, and that’s probably going to be enough."

And the media fluff pieces about her are not going to decide any elections, he added — they are simply reflections of the mood the public is already in.

"The GOP electoral coalition is the smaller, weaker coalition. It’s lost the popular vote seven out of nine times in my lifetime (I’m 36). It has lost the Electoral College three out of the last four cycles. Conservatives might not be very eager to hear this, but 'We the People' are mostly Democrats," Wright continued.

Republicans can still win despite this, he added, but so far the only times that has happened is when they nominated outsiders — and Trump is now the last thing from an outsider you could imagine.

"Trump isn’t losing because Kamala Harris is being hyped by the press and fluffed up to kingdom come. He isn’t losing because the press is being unfair to him. He’s losing because he’s a weak, unpopular, undisciplined candidate running at the head of a weak, minority electoral coalition. That’s the truth, whether anyone wants to hear it or not," Wright concluded.

All that remains, he said, is for Republicans to "stop whining" and try to create a stronger coalition — which so far there is no indication they are trying to do.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Aug 2024, 14:01
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24 Aug 2024, 14:01#2

Pretty close to the truth….if the Republicans chose Hailey they would still be in hunt. Choosing Trump again was a disaster….only some massive stroke of luck can save them at this point. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Aug 2024, 16:04
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24 Aug 2024, 16:04#3

"Not Trump" can't win twice in a row...she'll have to stand for something more than just keeping Trump out of office. What does she have?...tax the wealthy and price fixing?...she was and still is in charge of the border...a disaster...and part of the administration who caused super inflation and high interest rates...she'll have to do better than empty promises to convince voters she'll suddenly know how to fix thes things...or the electorate of the USA is just as stupid as the South African voter...

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Aug 2024, 16:16
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24 Aug 2024, 16:16#4

...and now a Kennedy is all but supporting Trump...his uncle and father must turn in their graves if they see what's happened to the Dems of today.

"Robert F. Kennedy Jr Torches the DNC


"The DNC and its media organs engineered a surge of popularity for Vice President Harris based upon nothing. No policies, no interviews, no debates, only smoke and mirrors and balloons in a highly produced Chicago circus."


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Aug 2024, 16:40
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24 Aug 2024, 16:40#5
‘Not Trump’ can win twice in a row. If more than 50% of the country including a big chunk of the Republicans despises the man it becomes almost impossible.
Harris  can float  though this and win, it’s a personality choice not a policy choice. And she wins that contest with younger voters.
Most Americans assume, regardless of who is picked their lives won’t change much….that’s been true since WW2. Harris will have to demonstrate she is a risk in office. So far the Trump team and supporters have produced nothing…just a weak, personal attacks.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Aug 2024, 20:01
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24 Aug 2024, 20:01#6

Well, then most Americans are stupid/naive and desrve to get another Dem term...I hope for some sensibility...and RFK is doing his bit too....I really pray Donald manages another term ...it will be good for us all.

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
24 Aug 2024, 20:54
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24 Aug 2024, 20:54#7

If you are praying for Trump to return to power, all is but lost. 
His base has turned to demagogy worshipping the ground he walks on. 


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Aug 2024, 21:02
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24 Aug 2024, 21:02#8

There is 1 serious question I want to ask you people after listening to the  speech pf Robert Kennecy (Jnr):-

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6360904280112

THE QUESTION IS - IS THE USA STILL GOVERNED BY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY STILL A  DEMOCRACY?



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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
25 Aug 2024, 01:47
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25 Aug 2024, 01:47#9

I really pray Donald manages another term ...it will be good for us all.

Really?

Like the disgrace and the embarrassment of J6 in the face of a worldwide audience let alone his WH briefings....."inject a little bleach into the body".... ..need I go on?

Once again you're on the wrong side of history.

Congratulations. 

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
25 Aug 2024, 02:00
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25 Aug 2024, 02:00#10

Harris is the darling of the media, Trump remains the villain of the media.

Donnie was stupid enough to ride rough shot over the media, no-one in public life does that....it's just dumb. Anyone who steps into public life knows to have the media onside....Obama understood and got himself two terms.

Right now he needs more than luck.....he needs the media more than anything else and that ain't going to happen.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
25 Aug 2024, 03:45
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25 Aug 2024, 03:45#11

Harris;   6 years AG       6 years Senator    4 years VP

                                       vs

Trump, failed POTUS ... convicted felon, real estate tycoon, fruitcake & definitely not compis mentis .

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
25 Aug 2024, 06:21
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25 Aug 2024, 06:21#12

Define "fruitcake"...and there's nothing wrong with a bit of ADHD...doesn't make one non compos mentis...

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
25 Aug 2024, 07:33
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25 Aug 2024, 07:33#13

Trump, failed POTUS

With another potential failure pending.....boy oh boy does the orange bigot have Loser embossed on his forehead.

Losing is the one thing he's brilliant at.

How he must hate Biden for stepping aside

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
25 Aug 2024, 07:34
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25 Aug 2024, 07:34#14

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
25 Aug 2024, 07:35
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25 Aug 2024, 07:35#15

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
25 Aug 2024, 07:43
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25 Aug 2024, 07:43#16


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
25 Aug 2024, 09:15
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25 Aug 2024, 09:15#17

Aai jai jaai...the irony...and lack of self awareness...

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Aug 2024, 09:25
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25 Aug 2024, 09:25#18

Denny nd ohers 

I aked a serious quesstion and none of you responded.   Kenendy would have been a really good candidate for the Democratic Party - but they have decided on Biden as a front.    Biden was exceuting their ulra-left - near to Communim - policies.   The country is ruined by thsoe policies with over 60 million people requring food aid - with the FBI being used to spy on hundreds of thousands  of opponnts  the regime - with the Justice Department being used to lay fake charges agains political opponents and with he ordinary people being oppressed.

If  a Party does not tolerate democracy within itself - how will they tolerate it when in power.   Your new heroine promised to determine the prices shops  ask for food by the Government.  It was tried by Communist countries before and it failed.   It destroyed the agrcuture sector and destroyed the lives of millons of people.    Everybody bar the ruling clique became wealthier  and the rest starve.   

The media is owned by he ultra-ich and spread ;ies which you believe in its entirety  You believe ll the BS tey fed you like the bleachs ntory - wghich was doctored - they were talking about cleaning pof tble tops and tey turned it into injection of people.   It was a lie.  The Democrat leadership waanted charges against Tump as an eletion strategy - entirely devoid of any legal content and the FBI lied openly about isues -so badly that the case was chucked out by a judge - who ruled they misled and refuse to provide real evidence as to what happened.   The spread photos around that was admited to be fake and you fell for it.    The whole issue was a political campaign based on unconstutionality and  digrace in what is supposed a democratic country.   

The whole system of democracy is systematically destroyed by the Democrats in the USA.   The fact is that the country has gone backwards under Biden - a proven corrupt crook protected  by the FBI.   They knew for years he was a dummy and they wanted to use him as a dummy for the next four years,   Problem was he was such a  failure that his re-election was going to fail - sso they got rid of him and replaced him with the most stupid idiot ever to become dummy Preident.  They know she is stupid and they would not allow her to hold press conferences because she would betray herself as an idiot.   They would not allow debates between her and Trump - becausee she is too idiotic to pass in such a debate.    

She get speeces prepared for her and read it from a teleprompter,   She is trying to make a joke of the election - as bad a joke as her presidency would be/.   One can only hope that the US voters would nto be dubed into election another idiot as Presidnt.    Mugabe Harris will cause destruction of the USA as a country and will des troy stability in the world.    She has no policies and those she announced in speeches was cratered by to of the main newspapes in the USA as unacceptable.   Her VP is on the paysheet of the Chinese Communist Party and so is her husband.   They take their isntructions from Beijing and execute them.

You refer to the bleach issue that was based on a lie spread by the media.   The matter discussed had nothing to do with injections - at the time bleach was dealt with they were advising people to nsure tops of urnture and especially tables must be cleaned  properly by usng bleach.    The way the media now describe anyting they were caught out of having lied is "miss-spoken"   In the present campaign lies are described as such.        

Beware Denny - Chna is looking for space to sent eimmigarnts too and Australia is a target for that purpose. - you will soon have to speak Mandarin Chinese or be on the starvation list in re-education slave labor camps as well.    So you re free to believe the media lies you wrote above - i should use the word miss-spoken because - it will only be turned into truths by pbraineshed people.       

By the way the Democratic Paty is anytime as bad as he ANC when it comes to corruption, ultra - socialist policies  and poor administeation.    They are the fith in the USA let by filthy and corrup crooks.

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
25 Aug 2024, 19:27
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25 Aug 2024, 19:27#19
We have a former member of the AWB and ANC lecturing us about corruption
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
25 Aug 2024, 20:12
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25 Aug 2024, 20:12#20
I bet that Trump knows how to spell this correctly... "compis mentis"
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
25 Aug 2024, 20:14
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25 Aug 2024, 20:14#21
It's hilarious that old Denise calls Kara-mallis his "gal" because she's coloured.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Aug 2024, 08:17
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26 Aug 2024, 08:17#22

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Don't be a fucking idiot.   When you have no answer to facts you get personal.   For one thing I never in my life was a member of any political Party or organiztion.    Note that Mozart did not respond to the above - because he knows the statement of Kennedy is true.

There is one thing Kenndy and Trump has in common.   They were most of their lives registered members of the Democratic Party and in the end left that Party when it turned rogue,   Perhaps that is the reason why the Democrats and the media hate them so much.   That is hy for 6 years the media spread lies about the Russian Colludion in fact concocted by the Clinton campaign and the DNC - actively helped along by the Obama Administration and especally the FBI and CIA.  

They lied about General Flynn - another lifelong Democrat and wanted him in jail based on a statement the FBI  concocted and nearly succeeded with until  AG Barr called for his fle and found out they lied about him and did not want him as head of the wayward  CIA.   

You tiurned yourself into an idiot based on media propaganda.   The media is spreading hatred in the USA.   So the question remains whythe hate-spreading and why did the Democatic Party became different from what it used to be - a Party that movd from center-left to far left in the past 20 years and is in reality merely a front for the Communist Party.    It started off on local and state level when Communst infilttrated in the Party Organization and supported financially by the Soros organization.   Under that environment the local party organization turn to the far-left and through local organzation the party move to the far-left.   In the USA the Party is far-left and cannot win elections so they duped he people and sold Biden as a centrist and center left- candidate.in 2020.   However Biden was and is corrupt and was also not bright enough to run the country.   The polices the WH introduced was the most radical in the USA history.    

In true fascist style the control of the Party was taken over by their funders - the main funders being the Gates, Soros and Suckerman group of billionaires,   A typical example was the way the party got rid of Biden because the rich realized he has gone mentally down the draain and could not win he election.    He was kicked out by the Party as their candidate and they replaced hm with a real controlable  Kamala Harris that had a long record of leftwing viewpoints.   She must now be sold as a moderate center-leftist - but in reality she is a radical leftist if her  statements of the past is borne in mind - so she must be kept quiet and not exposed to debate and press conferences.   The funders are not interested in democracy -for them their own conduct is important,   Total Government control is what they strive for.   For them far-left policie rvd their purpose and they can conrol the Pary ledership - helped along by the media they own or control.   What the  radicals want is undermining of Demcorary and as such democracy came under increasing atack by the Biden Adminisration.   The USA are in a state where radicalism coupled to financial control is the norm in politics and the threat is from the radical left policies are the means they use to control the country.   

The fact is te Democratic Party contans element of radical nature - the Communist and fascist ideology is used to control the country,    What it means is that the ordinary people are worse off now than they were 4 yeaars ago - but the rich funders are richer.   They appoint the DP candidates and the corrupt element in the federal public service and the country itself from a democatic perspective is veering towards far-left ideology.    Corruption by the leadership and the bureaucracy  is acceptable and the media use the utmost measures to lie about opponents and protect corrupt elements in Govenment as long as they are usable and implement measures that they - THE FUNDERS-  prescribe to be implemented.

They know they can rely on idiots to support their jargon and that is what we see on a daily absis on this site.                    

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
26 Aug 2024, 09:56
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26 Aug 2024, 09:56#23

Shame on you

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
27 Aug 2024, 20:36
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27 Aug 2024, 20:36#24

klop

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
28 Aug 2024, 11:40
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28 Aug 2024, 11:40#25

Watch these short clips going around where someone with a camera walks around the US cities asking very random people one straight to the point question .... all he or she says is "Harris or Trump"....

When the people respond Harris, he or she then follows it up with either just "Why" ..... or "Name one policy that she has been involved in or put in place that has benefitted the USA".

No lies .... there is always just stunned silence in return, followed by..... I'm busy..... I gotta go now.......or .. Mmmmmm I will have to think about that...... but the best response I heard so far was, "She brings a lot of joy to the country because she always smiles and laughs a lot"  .....

However, the people responding that they prefer Trump, when asked the same question, can actually point out the different things that he has done that they agreed was benefical to the USA.

Strange people out there...... 

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