So Putin is suggesting that NATO should not exist as part of his Ukraine peace plan. That is just so he can go onto attack more European countries, without the fear of NATO stepping in.
NATO exists because the Russian threat. They are run by ex-KGB gangsters.
He also hinted at what Putin's security demands might be, saying a peace deal is "about the so-called five territories, but there's so much more to it: there's security protocols, there's no NATO, NATO Article 5, I mean, it's just a lot of detail attached to it."
Article 5 is the principle of the NATO alliance where an attack on one member is treated as an attack on all members, with a coordinated response.
Witkoff continued: "It's a complicated situation... rooted in... some real problematic things happening between the two countries and I think we might be on the verge of something that would be very, very important for the world at large."
He added that he believed "there is a possibility to reshape the Russian-United States relationship through some very compelling commercial opportunities that I think give real stability to the region too".