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Started by Mozart41 REPLIES723 VIEWS· 03 Nov 2018, 01:29
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Nov 2018, 01:29
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03 Nov 2018, 01:29#1
THE LARGEST INSANE ASYLUM IN THE WORLD. Interesting that the LA Times did this. All the others are staying away from it. Whether you are a Democrat or Republican, this should be of great interest to you. From the LA. Times: 1 40% of all workers in LA County (10.2 million people) are working for cash; and not paying taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card.(Donald Trump was right). 2. 95 %of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens. 3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens. 4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers. 5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals; they are here illegally. 6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages. 7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border. 8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal. 9. 21 radio stations in LA are Spanish-speaking. 10. In LA County, 5.1 million people speak English; 3.9 million, speak Spanish. (There are 10.2 million people, in LA County. (All 10 of the above facts were published in the Los Angeles Times). Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare. Over 70% of the United States' annual population growth, ( and over 90% of California, Florida, and New York), results from immigration. Also, 29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens. .......... ................ That's the issue Trump is trying to address. Left untended this will change the country in 25 years....which is a choice. But at least people should be aware they are making a choice.
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
03 Nov 2018, 03:01
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03 Nov 2018, 03:01#2

....they're not paying any taxes ?.....just like Fat Donny then...


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Nov 2018, 04:16
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03 Nov 2018, 04:16#3
Nah, more like Paul Webb
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Nov 2018, 04:40
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03 Nov 2018, 04:40#4
Seems your little socialist paradise has a bit of a tax evasion issue.....even these modestly wealthy blokes have tax evasion schemes. 'Some of New Zealand's wealthiest people are paying hardly any tax at all. Figures given to ONE News show many of those worth more than $50 million are only paying tax on around $70,000 dollars of annual income. When the tax man comes knocking, most of us expect to pay our fair share. But some of us can avoid it . Even millionaire Gareth Morgan admits he's not paying his. "Ah no, definitely not. But that's the way the tax regime is," he says. Inland Revenue monitors 200 New Zealanders worth more than $50 million each. Yet 46.5% of those multi-millionaires earn less than $70,000 a year, meaning they avoid paying the top income tax rate. "The system is so stupid that it allows people to do this," Mr Morgan says.' The system is stupid says Morgan, really? In New Zealand?
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
03 Nov 2018, 04:41
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03 Nov 2018, 04:41#5

....and there's people speaking Spanish in LA.....surely you jest..

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Nov 2018, 05:36
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03 Nov 2018, 05:36#6
...and 'there's people out there'. Gosh would you really write: 'there is people out there'? No? But that's what you have just done. Clearly those evaded taxes are....er....taxing the NZ education system.
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
03 Nov 2018, 05:51
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03 Nov 2018, 05:51#7

...haha the white anxiety is palpable...



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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Nov 2018, 06:08
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03 Nov 2018, 06:08#8
Maybe so .....but you tried to be a smart arse.....and ended up looking like an arse! Still no hard feelings I'm a very sensitive fellow.
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
03 Nov 2018, 06:18
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03 Nov 2018, 06:18#9

...and where will you hillbillies get yr coke if they stop them all at the border...?

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Nov 2018, 07:53
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03 Nov 2018, 07:53#10

Haha Brycy

Weed comes by car.

Snow comes from the sky.

Surely you know this.

Guess you never paid attention in geography class.


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Nov 2018, 08:00
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03 Nov 2018, 08:00#11

Moz, I've always wanted to live in the States. Honestly think it's an awesome country. Each time I do business with Americans their competence impresses me.

Quite impossible to get in there though.

Why is it that I'm able to accept that but others think it's their right to simply cross the border and kick up a fuss about human rights when they don't get what they want.

South Africa is pretty similar to Mexico as far as economies and GDP goes...Surely then all Saffas have some kind of claim to moving to the States.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Nov 2018, 11:44
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03 Nov 2018, 11:44#12

I think the freedom we had when I grew up in the 80's is still to be had in large parts of rural America. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
03 Nov 2018, 14:59
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03 Nov 2018, 14:59#13

The insane policies of the globalist/marxist left are being unmasked for the American people like never before. The open borders one world government demonrats want American taxpayers to fund education medical expenses, housing etc for anybody in the world who wants to march in. Black and Hispanic vote for Trump is climbing rapidly as they feel the brunt of all this.

Brycy is a nasty little racist. Doubtless he loves seeing the destruction of the European nation states as well. Unfortunately for the racist brycy there is a massive fight back under way and it appears at this point the globalists are losing ground every day

Deport all these illegals to nZ and let them enjoy the horrors of open borders. Seldom have i come across such a stupid group of people They are low iQ nutters completely under the control of the globalist MSM propaganda.

The only Trump tax return that was leaked was dealt with by MSNC. They were breathless with excitement and were in such a rush to reveal all they never checked the document before Mad Cow Maddow revealed Trump had paid 39 million dollars in tax that year!!! Talk about red faces. Yours truly reported this on the board but of course the extremely bigoted buffoon brycy took no notice and so has made a complete and utter fool of himself yet again.

Of course Trump has also been audited by the irS almost every year and came out as clean as a whistle. But don't let the facts get in the way of this thick piece of sheep turd Bryy who gets more ridiculous with each passing week.

America needs to deport ALL illegals. A pardon made be considered for those who work hard and love the country. The others should be kicked out pronto.

Moz buffoon brycy certainly aint smart but he definitely is an huge you know what.

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BrycyPro4,671 posts
03 Nov 2018, 15:21
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03 Nov 2018, 15:21#14

....Bean Brain this is vewy vewy scewy...the mexicans are coming...


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
03 Nov 2018, 15:44
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03 Nov 2018, 15:44#15

Nope their days of coming are about to end. Hard luck B rycy you halfwit. Those Caravans, now 6 in number, will help win the mid terms for Trump and GOP. hahahahahahahahhahaahha

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Nov 2018, 15:52
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03 Nov 2018, 15:52#16
Look you can't blame okes like Brycy, can you imagine the extent of the brainwashing in NZ schools! Old Brycy is a pretty decent bloke, maybe the most ardent Cheetahs fan on the Board.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Nov 2018, 16:02
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03 Nov 2018, 16:02#17
Plum every place has it's issues....and I miss the climate and the beauty of the Cape. And I miss the South African sense of humour. But you're right, the US is a great place and the best business experience....by far!
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Nov 2018, 00:13
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04 Nov 2018, 00:13#18

Have we not seen the result of the type of problems the LA Times mentioned?

There is a similar situation in SA,   They call it xenophobia and the result is the locals start attacking and terrorizing foreigners and it is getting worse by the day,   

What is the end result of the situation - I think the chances of civil strife and even a civil war in the USA will be very high and getting higher with times.      

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
05 Nov 2018, 10:37
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05 Nov 2018, 10:37#19

Civil war in the states.

There's only gonna be one winner there and it sure as hell won't be the libs.

Their best bet is playing on morality and winning the propaganda war. Actually fighting??? Haha fuck me, going to war with Antifa backing you up is about as ridiculous as it gets. Oh, sorry i forgot BLM! How dare i forget to mention that strategic powerhouse.

If there is a civil war there, people will very quickly find out why they should never have pinched the lion's balls.

Antifa...hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Nov 2018, 11:40
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05 Nov 2018, 11:40#20

  plum you are a classic.   I do not really think it is impossible.  One cannot really win a propaganda war if the people are detrimentally affected - like is the case in many US States at present - especially the "Rust Belt States"  - where the "Rust" refers to factories being closed down and manufacture moved to other countries because of higher labour costs in the USA.

The unemployed and poorer workers resulting from that will not react positively to such propaganda wars.    .  

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Nov 2018, 11:40
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05 Nov 2018, 11:40#21

  plum you are a classic.   I do not really think it is impossible.  One cannot really win a propaganda war if the people are detrimentally affected - like is the case in many US States at present - especially the "Rust Belt States"  - where the "Rust" refers to factories being closed down and manufacture moved to other countries because of higher labour costs in the USA.

The unemployed and poorer workers resulting from that will not react positively to such propaganda wars.    .  

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
05 Nov 2018, 13:29
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05 Nov 2018, 13:29#22

The USA is a country of jarring extremes. It's also at the point of cultural collapse. I don't know how people can live there, aside from the Latin Americans escaping their hell holes. Globalists destroyed what was the greatest country on earth. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Nov 2018, 17:44
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05 Nov 2018, 17:44#23
Oh I don't know Augie....one can still get a good steak.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
05 Nov 2018, 18:13
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05 Nov 2018, 18:13#24

Organhuffer  the Globalists came close to destroying America but there is a massive fight back underway. Ditto in Europe.

Thankfully the agenda of the globalists has been revealed and people are recoiling in horror. Hope everyone wi ll watch that Trump at War post.


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sharkbokCaptain23,220 posts
05 Nov 2018, 20:02
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05 Nov 2018, 20:02#25
One thing is that Americans themselves are immigrants. Red Indians are the natives.
Sure, they do not want gangster Mexicans- but the decent ones probably do have some claim to get entry into the country. It could be argued that people of white/caucasean decent are the globalists spreading Western Culture and destroying native cultures. (E.g. aboriginees, red indians)
I have never been to the USA, and would always like check it out. Especially San Diego - and maybe New York. 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
05 Nov 2018, 20:29
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05 Nov 2018, 20:29#26

Shark, you can't equate the colonization of the America's with uncontrolled immigration today. History is just that ...they fought for their independence...that means they get to make the rules.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
05 Nov 2018, 21:49
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05 Nov 2018, 21:49#27

Native Americans are immigrants too. The only difference is time. They weren't even the first people in the Americas. Their origin is predominantly from the Siberia region. Not all Native Americans are from there either, many tribes on the Western side have a Jewish origin.

Immigration is used as a weapon to destroy cultural identity and create a support base who will vote Globalism. It's already working. Without a cultural identity, open borders may ensue. The nation state must be eliminated for the Superstate to emerge. Where all financial, legal, military entities are merged. Headed by a self-electing and self-regulating power structure. What's even worse, in the case of Islam, it is perfectly compatible with Globalism. Merely a different expression of the same ideals. From a theological perspective, they are one and the same. Just change Allah (Hubal/Heylel/Ba'al) for Maitreya (Apollyon/Gilgamesh/Marduk). Very sinister. Very dangerous. Allowing these Islamic refugees to take hold is putting a knife to one's throat. Globalists maintain a very thinly veiled pretence of sincerity. They are not our friends, and do not have any of our best interests at heart. 

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sharkbokCaptain23,220 posts
05 Nov 2018, 23:49
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05 Nov 2018, 23:49#28
It does raise questions about where White South Africans place in all of this is. With more and more leaving SA, we have become like the Jews having lost our land.
Should borders be closed to us? Are we detroying culturism, and are we participating in globalisation.
I dont see how both Humanitarism and Islam can both be compatible with Globalisation. Islam seems to want everyone to die or become Muslim, and humatarian seems to be filled with englightened tollerant modern people that use logic instead of faith. If a God exists, he gave people a brain to work out reality, instead of using blind faith from archaics of the past. 
Religion seems like globalisation. Much of the colonial process was spreading the word of Jesus, while taking control of these countries. Europeans have colonised many places around the world, like in Brasil with the Jesus statue towering over the land. (The redeemer statue). 


The Romans colonized the known worlds and made Christianity (or Catholicism) the preferred religion. Both Americas were colonised much more recently, with Christianity the one global religion.
Is it possible that the religious right wing, are in fact the Globalists?
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Nov 2018, 01:28
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06 Nov 2018, 01:28#29

SB

I read your comments with interest - but it raises some questions as to the present scenario,.   

I think the history of the modern world is more applicable if you start with the First World War and the direct results which laid the basis for what later developed was globalism.   The main objective achieved was to destroy the nation states where there would be strong opposition  to globalists as is evidenced by the following:-    

 *   The formation of the League of Nations with what General Snuts wrote about as HOLISM forming the basis for ultimate world unification.   The world HOLISM was ultimately replaced by GLOBALISM.

*    The German Government system was systematically destroyed and replaced by incompetents destroying the German economy.

*     The Communists were funded by financial interests in the US and Switzerland and was assisting the Communist Government for years after 1917.   They were even helping them out in the 1970's,   It was only when Reagan, Kohl and Thatcher combined to stop the rot did the Communist Governments in Eastern Europe collapsed.

*     The Globalist ideals could be achieved by using proxies to help them in achieving their objective.    For that the idea is to use liberal ideals to get people in Governments and being rather weak they would support the Government as long as they can be used to take total control in the world.  

There had been some fightback in countries.   It actually -

*    started first in Russia where Putin ended up in control - he is hated by the Globalists since they cannot control him and their propaganda campaign against him is total;

*     the election of Trump in the USA;

*     the Brexit referendum  in the UK; and

*    the growth of conservative parties in many countries in Europe  even taking power in some.

I would think that thinking people would hate to be government effectively by a shadowy dictatorship.

      


       

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sharkbokCaptain23,220 posts
06 Nov 2018, 14:02
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06 Nov 2018, 14:02#30

Globalism is a myth. It is all about certain countries trying to expand their power base.

There is not an underlying group of people around the world that are globalists. 

The closest thing there has ever been to globalism is religion, where one religion wants to dominate the world- and make everyone follow that religion and set of beliefs.

Groups like the United Nations were formed to help prevent world wars, and stop one country trying to use military force to conquer others. However, their is of course corruption in this - because America pays most of the NATO bills



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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
06 Nov 2018, 14:39
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06 Nov 2018, 14:39#31
Sharkbok, I'm quite sure Baboon-ou and the other conspiracy theorists on this forum will deny it but I think when they use the term "Globalists" what they're really saying is "Jews" only they don't want to be branded as being anti-Semetic . . . so instead of saying "evil Jews" they say "evil Globalists" and everyone is okay with it.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Nov 2018, 15:45
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06 Nov 2018, 15:45#32

No the Jewish religion and state is too small to even fit into the concept of Globalism.  There are a few Jewish families with huge financial resources -- but that si not the problem.   

There is a definite programme to open up borders of al countries and that is totally clear.   There is a culture amongst some to  eliminate nation states completely.

There is evidence that there are in fact globalists - but whether they can turn the world into a shadowy dictatorship remain a question.

The problem is much  more local - countries  are being governed by some questionable methods for the benefit of a small minority of people - while millions in countries lose their jobs and their standard of living.   Basically there are lofty ideals trumpeted - but the working class loses out.   Not wise,            

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
06 Nov 2018, 17:27
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06 Nov 2018, 17:27#33

Sharkbok go read "Animal Farm" and "1984" again...it's about more than a one world government ...in the end it is about total control... truly evil.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Nov 2018, 17:36
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06 Nov 2018, 17:36#34
What utter rot....Urinal is just picking up the latest fake news talking points. Globalists are not synonomous with Jews, although Jewish people because of their history are probably well represented. Globalists believe in the essential goodness of humanity in mass. The Scandinavians are mostly globalists, kids at school tend to be globalists. And in a sense Chamberlain and his crew between the wars were 'globalists' at the European level. Kumbaya types. Nationalists prefer to control their own fate within a narrower sphere, learning from past mistakes.
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
06 Nov 2018, 17:42
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06 Nov 2018, 17:42#35

Globalists have throughout history wanted to destroy the Jews. Ende. 

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sharkbokCaptain23,220 posts
06 Nov 2018, 18:37
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06 Nov 2018, 18:37#36
If South Africa (and more Southern African countries)- had opened the borders to Europe, it could have become another America, or Australia type of country. 
Not enough Europeans moved here to form a democratic majority over the native people, when voting itself eventually involved all races. During colonisation, it was not exactly democratic in USA or Australia. 
Nationalism of the indeningious cultures was done all over the world by Westerners and Christianity, and now suddenly it is all about nationalism and closing borders. (after colonisation of indigenous cultures).
It seems a bit rich as white South Africans as our ancestors are from Europe- and now many of us live overseas. (But that is ok I suppose, as our heritage is Christian Western).
The medieval wars were about expanding Christian rule, the Roman wars were about expanding Christianity. (The Crusades were religious wars to expand Jesus land)
I do not see the problem of open borders- but to the right mix of people. No one wants another countries criminals, drug dealers, murderers, Muslim fanatics etc- in addition to their own fanatics.
However what about qualified people like Doctors or scientists that can make a positive contribution. The EU was designed to let people freely from place to place. Unfortunately, with terrorism, it has become a security threat - especially due to refugees from backward religious countries that are anti-western. 
The EU is failing for a few reasons-1. Security from open borders2. Ireland is shafting everyone in the EU by allowing American companies to use their country as a tax haven. Instead of paying Corporate tax to EU countries, Ireland undercut everyone to steal the tax money. A bit like a Switzerland- but for corporates.
The Cold war was about Capitalism vs Communism. Captilalism fortunately won, so in some ways having a capitalist system as the worlds economic system is good.No one wants some super capitalist centralising all the power behind the scenes though.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Nov 2018, 20:44
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06 Nov 2018, 20:44#37
Pretty good piece Shark. Capitalism mostly leads to competition. But not always, there are natural monopolies. I would argue Google is a natural monopoly. What to do with that is more complex...nationalizing it would kill the innovation. The telephone companies were split up and that worked because there were natural geographic businesses...not true with Google. And I often wonder if service would have been better with one Bell vs multiple Bells. Almost everybody I know favours qualified immigration in the States. It's the numbers of low skill people who immediately find their way into the Welfare system that causes the concern.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Nov 2018, 20:53
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06 Nov 2018, 20:53#38
On the South African thing.....much more immigration and strict border control might have created a Brazil-like country. But RSA was connected to a vast population unlike Australia....there would always have been huge pressure, just like the US southern border. Some still cling to the notion that a qualified franchise might work....but that was a pipe dream. The ANC only wanted one result after they sensed some momentum and they had the numbers. Ultimately numbers rule everything.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
06 Nov 2018, 20:56
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06 Nov 2018, 20:56#39

Whoosh!!!...Snark.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Nov 2018, 20:57
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06 Nov 2018, 20:57#40
Come again!
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