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Started by Denny11 REPLIES796 VIEWS· 15 Aug 2018, 13:35
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
15 Aug 2018, 13:35
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15 Aug 2018, 13:35#1

Mark Minnie told us book was 'only the beginning', says Tafelberg Publishers


Johannesburg - Questions continue to linger over co-author of The Lost Boys of Bird Island Mark Minnie's apparent suicide. 

This was after Minnie was found dead at a friend’s smallholding at Theescombe on Monday night. 

Reacting to the news of his death was Tafelberg Publishers, who said they were shocked to hear of Minnie's sudden death, especially because he had indicated that the book was "only the beginning" of the search of justice. 


"Tafelberg’s last contact with Minnie was on Sunday night, but he had been out of reach since Monday morning. His cellphone had been switched off and he hadn’t responded to emails.  

"In the week preceding his death, Minnie had said nothing to Tafelberg to indicate that he might harm himself. He was excited about the publication of the book and the disclosure of allegations which, according to him, had been covered up for thirty years. He said that the book was 'only the beginning' of the process to have justice prevail for the victims whose stories are told in the book."

Minnie, a former police officer, had also told Tafelberg that he had successfully followed up several leads in PE during the past week and was determined to reveal further evidence. 

He was also looking forward to Cape Town’s Open Book Festival where he, together with his co-author Chris Steyn and journalist Marianne Thamm, was going to discuss the book, Tafelberg revealed. 

Adding to this was the author of The President's Keeper: Those Keeping Zuma in Power and out of Prison, Jacques Pauw, who raised questions around Minnie's apparent suicide. 

"The fact that the suicide note was found doesn't necessarily mean he wrote it willingly. I mean he could've written it under duress. The fact that he shot himself with someone else's pistol already raises questions," Pauw said during a 702 interview. 

Eastern Cape police revealed that a suicide note had been found but would not divulge its contents or the location of where it was discovered. 

It was also revealed that the firearm found did not belong to Minnie.

Co-author of the book Chris Steyn meanwhile said she was shattered by Minnie’s unexpected death and stood by every word in the book. 

“Mark said it was our task to have justice prevail for the victims. He would have wanted me to continue and that is exactly what I’ll be doing.”


The Lost Boys of Bird Island is about high-ranking former National Party government ministers allegedly being part of a paedophile ring in the late 1980s.


The book tells the story of “fishing excursions” organised by former defence minister Magnus Malan, wealthy businessman Dave Allen – who died by suicide at the age of 37 – and National Party environmental affairs minister John Wiley – who also committed suicide at age 80, just weeks after Allen was found dead with a similar gunshot wound to the head.



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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
15 Aug 2018, 13:41
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15 Aug 2018, 13:41#2
The Lost Boys of Bird Island: Fear, suspicion and unanswered questions

Gauteng / 11 August 2018, 4:44pm / Staff Reporter

It is the late 1980s. Serious allegations surface against three prominent National Party Cabinet ministers, one of them the second-most powerful man in the land. They are, it is said, regularly abusing young boys on an island just off the coast of Port Elizabeth. From opposite ends of South Africa, a brave cop and a driven journalist investigate. Mark Minnie and Chris Steyn independently uncover evidence of a dark secret. But the case only surfaces briefly before it disappears completely. Thirty years later, the two finally connect the dots to expose this shocking story of criminality, cover ups and official complicity in the rape and possible murder of children, most of them vulnerable and black.

When Mark Minnie and I met up again in 2017 to talk about writing this book together, he startled me with the claim that he almost had me killed that day our paths crossed so briefly in Port Elizabeth 30 years earlier.

According to him, he had two trained marksmen giving him back-up, and had given them instructions to shoot me on sight should anything untoward happen to him. He said, “I told them that if I just as much as fall asleep while sitting talking to you, they should shoot to kill”

ust say I found that hard to believe - even from a South African cop in the ’80s. But Minnie was adamant that he felt in need of protection - from me. As he put it, “I feared for my life. I did not know who you were really working for. You could have been Security Branch, which had showed such interest in my case to the point that the docket was stolen out of my office.”

He told me there were rumours that Dave Allen had been taken out by the branch, and then I had turned up expecting him to confirm that one of the most powerful and dangerous men in South Africa was part of a paedophile ring abusing boys on Bird Island. The former detective added: “But even if I knew you were on the right side, I would never have confirmed anything in view of the fact that you were a member of the liberal press who would possibly twist my words, and then they would have come after me.”

For my part, the meeting with Minnie was so useless from a journalistic point of view that I had actually completely forgotten about it. It was only while working on this book that I was reminded of the frustratingly fruitless exchange between the detective and me in that hotel foyer three decades ago.

In retrospect, Minnie’s attitude towards me at that time did make some sense. In those years, members of the so-called left-wing press and the “Boere” (police) were usually on opposing sides.

In an email to me in 2017, Minnie revealed just how much he had distrusted me: “Nice meeting up with you once again. This time it’s under different circumstances, though. We’re on the same side, now. I apologise profusely for the ‘cold shoulder’ treatment which I meted out to you so many years ago in Port Elizabeth. I was unaware as to your true agenda on that specific day that we spoke to each other in the lobby of the Elizabeth Hotel Those days, for some or other reason, I felt more comfortable in the presence of journalists working for the Afrikaans press.”

In 2017, after the long, long silence between us, I finally got to read Minnie’s version of his own investigation. I learned for the first time that he had suspected right from the start that Allen’s death had not been a suicide. I also learned that he had shared my own suspicions that Wiley’s death, too, was not suicide.

The fact that the key to the minister’s locked bedroom had gone missing - according to a source close to the family - was certainly suspicious. At first it had been presumed that Wiley had locked himself in his room before lying down on the bed and taking his life. But when his son, Mark, gained access to the bedroom through an outside window, he couldn’t find the key. Sources close to the Wileys told me at the time that the family had searched everywhere for the key and were completely baffled by its disappearance.

Adding to my suspicion that there was something odd about Wiley’s death was confirmation by the police that he had not left a suicide note - despite his well-known penchant for constantly writing notes. And, during the writing of this book, I learned that many of Wiley’s notes were found burnt in the driveway of his home a couple of days after his death. Whoever had set fire to the notes was in such a hurry that the scorched ring binders had been left behind.

I also found out that Wiley’s bedroom window looked out over an open veranda from where one could walk on to the lawn and straight across it into a quarry. “Anyone could have gotten in,” I was told. Moreover, I learned that the police officer on night guard duty had left at 6 am that morning. Furthermore, although Wiley’s wife seldom rose early, I was told that she had also gone out by 6 am.

There is more. The crime scene investigation that followed the discovery of Wiley’s body was “non-existent”, and the scene was “contaminated” on the assumption that it was a suicide. In addition, I was told that - despite there supposedly not being a spare key to his safe - some of Wiley’s personal effects had been removed sometime after his death.

In another development, during the writing of this book, a source forwarded me a message with this claim: According to my info, the first person allowed into Wiley’s house was Magnus Malan.

He left the house with two boxes. ONLY after he left, the police was allowed to enter the house.

Why??!! He swept/cleaned the house personally. Must have been some info for a prominent person to stoop so low (as to) to sweep a house.

This information was passed on to me from a former member of Military Intelligence’s Counter Intelligence and Counter Espionage Division. I subsequently asked someone else who had been at the house that morning whether Malan had indeed been there, but he could not remember.

* This is an extract from The Lost Boys of Bird Island by Mark Minnie and Chris Steyn published by Tafelberg at a recommended retail price of R280

Author Biographies

* Mark Minnie is a former policeman who worked as a Narcotics Bureau detective for the South African Police (SAP) during the 1980s. Upon leaving South Africa in 2007, he started working as an English examiner for Cambridge University and the British Council in China. He is currently employed as an English teacher at a university in Guangzhou in China.

* Chris Steyn is an investigative writer and journalist. Over the years, she has worked for the Rand Daily Mail, The Star and the Cape Times. She was editor of the investigative unit of 16 newspapers in the Independent Newspapers group. Today she owns a bookshop in Hermanus, the seaside village which is now her home



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generaltitPro3,164 posts
15 Aug 2018, 15:10
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15 Aug 2018, 15:10#3

John Wiley had an affair, I was told when I was a young boy with my step-mother (who I disliked intensely) when he lived in Noordhoek (FishHoek)...he was an immoral man. He played cricket for Oxford and Western Province and had a blue chip education but despite this was a bastard and I'm not surprised that he is linked up in this. Anyway, this is too terrible and I believe these evil men are all in a place of torment...what you sow you reap.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
15 Aug 2018, 17:01
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15 Aug 2018, 17:01#4

Very convenient deaths...either way.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
16 Aug 2018, 08:30
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16 Aug 2018, 08:30#5

No comment from the Jihadi......now why am I not surprised. On second thoughts perhaps I should have posted the above in the Rugby section like everyone else does, that way I'd attract mass attention.

Anyway, thought you'd at least show some appreciation for my efforts in helping you expose the paedophiles in your backyard. 

What's up mate, are the rules different for the far right? Or are you in denial?

Tell you what…. next time you and your followers knock the rotten ANC I'll be putting this one in my bow.

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
17 Aug 2018, 08:14
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17 Aug 2018, 08:14#6

Den, if it is not information from one of his right wing sources, then it does not exists for Beeno. You should know that by now. Truth and facts are irrelevant. 

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generaltitPro3,164 posts
17 Aug 2018, 09:41
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17 Aug 2018, 09:41#7

That's unfair to Beeno...evil abounds on both sides of the political spectrum and virtually everywhere, you cannot group people into sections and label them....perverted and cruel people will get their due in the end.

Certainly Beeno does not side with evil whatever side it comes from...I find such comments quite distasteful...you get good and bad on both sides of the spectrum.

In the end all is exposed in eternity and judgement and don't be fooled...what a man sows he will surely reap...there is no escape...you might fool man but you cannot fool God.

Those who do such evil and die in their sins are separated from God and are cast into a place of terrible torment

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
17 Aug 2018, 09:47
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17 Aug 2018, 09:47#8

This whole thing is very serious and such allegations should be backed up with proof and I have not seen any yet. There is obviously something and even Gert van Rooyen ties into this mess. I really hope this gets properly investigated and everything gets exposed....and hopefully the families of the Van Rooyen missing girls can get some closure.

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
17 Aug 2018, 11:01
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17 Aug 2018, 11:01#9
Seb, you are saying that Beans is objective....that is simply not true. Sure, there is evil on both sides, just as there is good on both sides, I have been saying that all along, but answer me this. How many articles has Beans posted on good things done by the left? You got it. 0! How many articles has Beans posted about the wrongs of the right? Right again. 0.
My point is valid. End of story. 
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
17 Aug 2018, 11:58
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17 Aug 2018, 11:58#10

Blou…..you just knocked off my post, exactly my thoughts. Spot-on, he's never ever posted a low about the Far Right....never.

Isn't it strange?? Bwhahahahaha

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generaltitPro3,164 posts
17 Aug 2018, 12:31
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17 Aug 2018, 12:31#11

OK fair enough but I just thought that attacking Beeno with such an awful thing was pushing it too far...such a ghastly thing if indeed is true, is far too sensitive thing to make any jest of and ridicule another poster...Beeno might be extreme in his support for Trumpet but he certainly is NOT a malicious person...he has strange sense of humour sometimes but I honestly believe he is a good man and bears no hatred for any one.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
17 Aug 2018, 12:51
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17 Aug 2018, 12:51#12

".....but he certainly is NOT a malicious person.."

So calling me a paedophile is not malicious?

Seb, stop dithering......fact is he has never ever posted anything that's morally low about the Far Right.....NEVER!

Subject matter closed.

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