SB - a simple question to you

What is the difference between the policy Trump apply in t he U SA and what Labor now about to implment?

I am happy with the direction that Labour has taken. Over 70% want the illegal immigration problem solved, so there is a Democratic mandate.

The Tories had 14 years, but they did nothing. Brexit made illegal immigration worse, as the UK, as a non-EU member, is not eligible for the Dublin accord to return many.

We do not have ICE, which I would not want, but we have other tools at our disposal.

The EU is also going to crack down on illegal immigration, which should help slow the influx of people who get into the UK from France.

The EU is also going to crack down on illegal immigration, which should help slow the influx of people who get into the UK from France.

The sooner the better

Poor London ....... a once fantastic city

SB

I am not sure it will work out bearing in mind the seious collapse iro prison services in the UK - where pro-criminal is part of the Woke culture/ Hunmdreds of people arrested are set free "by mistake and that load he Police with extra work.

Not sure the EU would do anything about the issue of illegal migration. Fact is politically it is a hot potato and the leftists suffered a bad knock in the last EU election - but that des not influenmce he little men in suits in Brussels and without their adminisration undermining policies nothing will happen of any consequince,

France and Belgium is in an unholy mess - and France there are talks of civil war possible - and who will get the upper hand in such a situation. .

I am relatively confident things will work. The mainstream parties (left and right) know they will lose elections, both midterms and the primary elections.

They need to work together to block the far right.

Working together on that iissue is not what make Governance effective, In the case of France the idea to work together let to France having four Prime Minsiters in 15 months, It led to weak Governence devoid of any policies whatsoever.

Take for instance the case of Trump. He introduced measures to stop the influx of criminal gangs and terrorism in entering the country - but the media claims otherwise and wrote fake stoiries about some cases. Take for instance the latest case. There were the cases of 3 people tat made headkines and all three cases were lies spread by the media lied about what happened:-

1. the nodel family man from Maryland, As far back as 2019 the court ruled that the man dhoulld be extradited - but not to his original home country of El Salvador where he was accused of ganfsterism and shootitng of a police officer in the leg, Officials fiddled around and in the end the court order was never implemented becuae the Autopen decided to open the couintries border totally;
2. Over 500 000 illegals entering the country were jailed in their country of origin, In counties like Venezuela nnd Colombia the Governments emptied their jails and send the criminals - mostly gangsters - to the USA. In the case of Los Angeles ICE officials tried to arrest an illegal migrant who was operating a brothel. Because of riots and attacks on Ice policmen - the DP organized the riots and when the brothel owner was arrested it was found that in the main underage children illegally smuggled into the country was used as prostitutes = both mals and females. The media story was not about the children being takem to places of safety - it was the ICE arresting the children - nothing about what was really going on insofar as the children were taken to a place of safety for psychoogical help and in the end contacting the prents of the children in their home countries to allow for the children to be sent back to their parents.
3. The latest storry is about a 72 year old person arrested for extradition amd the emdia stopry was about his arrest by ICE. The rea fact the man was in teh country ilelgally and had a criminal record a mile long. Courts in the past ordered the extadition of the man twice in the past and he came back twice and continue with his criminal activities. It was not about his arrest for being involved in crimes in the USA - it was about an innocent 72 year old person being arrested by ICE,

The same media campaigns will happen in the UK if they tried to get rid of illegals and in the end whatsoever the Government tried to do to get rid of illegals will be jeoprdized from within the country, by leftist extremists using the media for their own purpose and they would lay charges against the Police when they acted against illegals. When te Government try to get rid of illegals it would be jeopardised in the courts. In the end it would just be impossible for any Government to act iro extraditon of people from their countries,

So good luck to Labor if they think they can act against illegals - they would just be jeopardised from within their own party. I understand that Labor has 404 MP's - but the total number of MP's including supprt by opposition parties - were only 278 MP's voted to support the new policy as to dealing woth illegals. It means that more than half fo the Labor MP's voted against the measures announced by their own Party.

In that environment opposition to the Government measures being implemented is a pipedream.

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DumbMike, the first world does not really care what a 3rd worlder like yourself thinks.

You remain in the darkness of Africa, you have no clue.

SB

Sure I have no idea as to what is going on in the first world so I use a lot of time to look at facual information in what happeend in the first world. In countries I visited first world countries - I visist virtually all countries in most cases more than once and in th case of the UK three times.

So I have seen in teh visits of countries a deterioration in those countries, In countries like Germany , France and the Netherlands I saw deterioration unthinkable dirong the 1970's and 2008. I stidy foreign news meda and specifically foreign reports - so perhaps I now and undertnds what happened in Europe and the USA by reading woldly - watching US Senate and House hearings that became more readily available over the past ten years,

That is why I know what happened in your first world which is rapidly deteriorating to third world conditions. A typical example is California - where the middle class fled and at present there are left the rich and the poor - a typical example that happened in third world countries, all the results of ridiculous maladministration. I know what went wrong when fire theatened Los Angeles because there were no water conencted to fire hydrants and Pacific Pallisades in Los Angeles were destroyed.

The media you so admire are telling you what you may think and what not - so you always beleeve in BS a fer trning you into a rotten potasto or a similar other vegetable.....

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