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So the Taliban takes over in Kabul and Biden fled to Delaware and is now in Camp David

Started by clevermike18 REPLIES941 VIEWS· 16 Aug 2021, 14:22
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Aug 2021, 14:22
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16 Aug 2021, 14:22#1

The Taliban  has taken over the Afghan  Government after the previous President  fled from Afghanistan.   

So here is the comment about the issue:-

*    The Taliban feared Trump 

*    The Taliban despises  Biden

*     Biden in panic fled from Washington to avoid any responsibility

*     Who fear Trump more - the Taliban or Biden?

The Trump planned the withdrawal carefully and threatened the Taliban with disastrous consequences if they sabotage the withdrawal agreement and since they know he would carry out the threats.   Biden then ordered a haphazard withdrawal without regard to the real agreement on withdrawal because they know Biden is a spineless and gutless individual  and broke every clause in the agreement.

A week ago in an opinion poll 46%  of the respondents indicated that they are anxious about Biden handling a foreign crisis situation , while 38% said they believe  Biden and believe he can handle foreign crisis situations.    If he same question is asked this week - what would the answer be?   No doubt - the ancxiety level will increase and trust level will deteriorate badly.  

 But the more important issue  is - what will rogue countries do next because they know that when the next foreign crisis erupts  he will  flee from the capital in panic and will do squat to act against the rogues.              



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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
16 Aug 2021, 15:20
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16 Aug 2021, 15:20#2
Well, ou Maaik, bear in mind that you are both phenomenally stupid and brainwashed. Sensible people who are capable of independent thought (like the UK Minister of Defence) see it differently.
You can read Ben Wallace's comments here, but really, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize this is all a result of Bozo's disastrous foreign policy failures. 
Biden inherited this situation after Bozo pushed through a typically short-sighted and self-serving "peace deal" without consulting the international community. It wasn't Biden who chose to pull the troops out, it was Bozo. Not sure how you Trumpanzees are going to pin this on Biden but I have no doubt you'll try. 
All Biden is doing is honouring Bozo's stupid deal. I can only imagine how you same ignorant Trumpanzee zealots would be carrying on if he hadn't!
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Aug 2021, 15:52
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16 Aug 2021, 15:52#3

This is a replay of Isis marching through Iraq while Obama watched. Trump fixed that in 6 months and he would never have have allowed the Taliban to march  through Afghanistan.

Biden has reversed virtually every Trump decision, and now claims he couldn’t reverse this one…..simply because his judgement was dead wrong.


The world is in dangerous place with such a weak President.

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
16 Aug 2021, 16:30
#4
16 Aug 2021, 16:30#4

The Western world should stop meddling in the Middle East affairs. 
Afghanistan needs to look after itself. 

The only concern is terrorist organisations taking over countries like Afghanistan- then becoming more powerful, and in doing so become a bigger threat to the rest of the world.

If the Taliban were scared of Trump, it was because he is a terrorist like them. The capitol riots are confirmation of that. 
Biden inherited the garbage truce arranged by Trump, which clearly means nothing. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Aug 2021, 16:48
#5
16 Aug 2021, 16:48#5

The misinformed brainwashed idiots are trying to find an excuse for the gutless, spineless traitor who is now the President in name of the USA,   Trump had an agreement with the Taliban, The Afghan Government  and the USA and warned the Taliban they would be severely punished if they breach the agreement.    the withdrawal would have been in stages over a 20 month period.   

The withdrawal did not start in time because the Democrats spread a lie that Putin was paying a bounty to the Taliban for every soldier killed and that was during the election time last year.  

So what have we got here - the traitor Biden breached the agreement and handed the country over to the Taliban without any threat of  action should the Taliban breach the agreement.   So Kabul fell and I saw one of the worst things I have seen in my life.    Thousands of people at Kabul airport  hanging onto departing planes and falling to their death.   The f#cked up President is having the blood of tens of thousands of people who will be slaughtered by the Taliban on his hands.  

The world  saw this happening and we can expect crisis after international crisis because nobody respect the  DUD president the USA has at present.   He opened the border to let in an estimated 1,5 million so-called  "refugees" from 110 countries illegally into the country and he cannot save the real refugees in Kabul  after the Republicans pleaded with him for months  to help the people in getting out and he did NOTHING about it.

Two weeks ago in an opinion poll  46% of the participants said they are anxious about Biden's handling of international crisis situations - while 38% said they trust him to handle issues well.   If that survey is redone today 80% would say they are seriously disturbed about Biden's handling of the present crisis.     In the meantime even Time magazine - normally totally loyal to Biden - blame him for the present problems .         

      

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
16 Aug 2021, 16:59
#6
16 Aug 2021, 16:59#6
If Trump forgets to wipe his arse, it is Bidens fault. (at least for DumbMike)
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Aug 2021, 17:16
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16 Aug 2021, 17:16#7

Sorry….this is the President’s fault. Just like Isis rampaging through Iraq was Obama’s fault. You can spin it any way you like, Biden was warned the evacuation plan was inadequate….he ignored the advice.

Instead of going region by region as the plan called for…he simply pulled the plug.

The worst part of this is not the Taliban …..it’s Isis and Al-Queda and the lessons they will take from a Taliban victory. Biden has just destroyed 20 years of anti terrorist activity.

Don’t even try a sugar coat it.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Aug 2021, 17:19
#8
16 Aug 2021, 17:19#8

No SB

I am not  in favor of the gutless garbage who is President of the USA at present and you  defending him is showing all of us that you are garbage as well defending a corrupt and totally incapable wretch.    . 

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
16 Aug 2021, 18:43
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16 Aug 2021, 18:43#9

America are warmongers, often acting without the agreement of the international community. 
Their motives are always economic, supporting overturning existing governments with new ones that will agree to the US trade terms. 

It is now Biden's responsibility to solve the mess that has gone back many administrations. Trump's pathetic peace agreement with the Taliban was a PR exercise, it was never actually going to work. 

Trump is crazy like the leaders of the Middle East and could end up causing a nuclear war. If other countries were scared of him, it is because he is a psycho . 
He practically declared war on Iran - on Twitter...


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Aug 2021, 19:04
#10
16 Aug 2021, 19:04#10

Unlike his predecessors Trump was not a warmonger - he was the frst one to trry and get us troops out of the countries where his predecessors started wars .   Any agreement he signed  will be enforced according to the agreement and the Taliban would have abided by it because they were afraid of Trump/.    They regard Biden as a supershit weakling that is not capable of running a corner shop - leave alone the USA.    

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Aug 2021, 23:30
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16 Aug 2021, 23:30#11

Americans are war mongers…..well if you stop to think for a moment:

1 The US only entered WW1 after civilian shipping was attacked and many lives lost, and after Germany conspired with Mexico to attack the country.

2  The US only entered WW2 after it was  attacked by Japan….despite almost every major country being involved….despite Churchill imploring the US to declare war.

3 The US only entered the Korean War after 75000 North Korean soldiers invaded the South

4 The US entered the Vietnam War after China and Russia threw their weight behind the Viet Minh in 1950.

5 The US entered the First Gulf War after Iraq invaded Kuwait.

6 The US entered the Afghan war after terrorists directed from Afghanistan toppled the World Trade Center and killed 5000 people. 

7 The US entered the second Iraq war after faulty intelligence suggested WMD was being acquired by Hussein in contradiction of treaty agreements.

But ‘they knew it was a lie’ is the reflex response. No they didn’t. No government would have sold a lie knowing they were going to be horribly humiliated weeks later.

……

Not in one of these cases was money involved. In fact the US is vastly in the red on all these wars. They were wars that in every case were fought on principle. And mostly in the defence of others, not US citizens or possessions.

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
16 Aug 2021, 23:43
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16 Aug 2021, 23:43#12
At least according to Hollywood, where America was the good guy in all the wars. 
Not many in the Middle East agree...

Iraq was invaded for weapons of mass destruction, and they had none. Zilch. This created the Taliban and other terrorist movements. 



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Aug 2021, 00:37
#13
17 Aug 2021, 00:37#13

SB

Trump  causing  a nuclear war?  How would that have happened?   Please explain.

And that treaty went with conditions that if they do anything that would contravene the agreement  they would be severely punished.  The clear understanding of that condition was what Biden ignored and instead of following the conditions of the agreement  he broke it himself and now suffer the consequences.   

But we know Biden by now - he f#cked up royally whatever he touched  in the past 7 months.  

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XaviPro1,924 posts
17 Aug 2021, 01:39
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17 Aug 2021, 01:39#14

@SB.

The Taliban and Al-Qaeda were created long before the invasion of Iraq.

Good God man!

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
17 Aug 2021, 09:09
#15
17 Aug 2021, 09:09#15
I struggle to keep up with the latest terrorist fashion organizations...
The power vacuum created a new terrorist organization, I forget their name.  (Isis?)
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Aug 2021, 09:29
#16
17 Aug 2021, 09:29#16

Never hearf of BLM-Antifa the terrorist subsidiaries  of the Democrats?  LMAO

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
17 Aug 2021, 10:29
#17
17 Aug 2021, 10:29#17

Ja...This kinda say is it all.

"Iraq was invaded for weapons of mass destruction, and they had none. Zilch. This created the Taliban and other terrorist movements."

And then to cover his blunder he says this...which only makes it worse...

"I struggle to keep up with the latest terrorist fashion organizations..."

This guy is beyond hopeless. 

VisKop, why not just shut the F up when you're out of your depth?

Its obvious you only got interested in politics due to lefty media sucking you in during Trump's term. You thought you'd sound a bit more middle-class if you jumped on the "Drumpf hate" bandwagon. 

Let's be honest...you actually know dick about dick.


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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
17 Aug 2021, 11:02
#18
17 Aug 2021, 11:02#18

Poor ButtPlug, following me around from thread to thread...

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Aug 2021, 12:48
#19
17 Aug 2021, 12:48#19

The following from a Chinese paper:-

Yesterday’s  Saigon, today’s Afghanistan ant tomorrow’s  Taiwan?    Read some online posts  after the Taliban took full control  of Afghanistan, putting US failed commitment  under spotlight and sounding warning bell to Taiwan secessionists.

So China  is going to attack Taiwan soon and when that happen Biden would flee to his home in Delaware, and from there to Camp David and then phone and congratulate his master President Xi on his conquest of  Taiwan.   .   

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