FIXTURESNo upcoming fixtures — check back soon.
FORUM / MIKES GRIPES /  The Constitutional Court ruling on Zuma's contempt of Court.

The Constitutional Court ruling on Zuma's contempt of Court.

Started by clevermike32 REPLIES740 VIEWS· 29 Jun 2021, 11:42
SHAREXFACEBOOKWHATSAPPTELEGRAMREDDITLINKEDIN
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Jun 2021, 11:42
#1
29 Jun 2021, 11:42#1

As I understand the majority judgement Zuma  has to go to jail for 16 months for contempt of court and undermining of the Judicial Commission of enquiry dealing with State Capture,   He has to surrender himself to the Commanding Officer of the Nkandla or Johannesburg Police Offices within five days of the order to start serving his sentence,


This confirm my belief that despite  everything else the South African Republic is still a democracy governed in accordance with the Constitution.


I wish other countries follow the same example - one of which is the USA where the present crooks in Government is undermining the US Constitution in  their attacks on the Judiciary and the Constitution itself,    The replicate of Zuma  in the USA is the Biden Administration that wants to undermine State Governments constitutional rights and they advocate the Packing of the Supreme Court to turn it into a further arm of the Democratic Party to ensure the establishment of a dictatorship in the USA.


The Appointment of a Commission of Enquiry similar to the Zondo Commission in the criminal activities of politicians in the USA is long overdue  and that relates to all politicians.                  

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
29 Jun 2021, 13:21
#2
29 Jun 2021, 13:21#2

Ou Maaik's big hero Jacob Zuma is going to jail. About time! 

Hopefully it won't be too much longer before his other hero Bozo suffers the same fate.

Lock both these disgusting human beings up and throw away the key is what I say.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
29 Jun 2021, 15:14
#3
29 Jun 2021, 15:14#3

Exactly Mike.

I see the SDNY will not be bringing Trump to court.

Dispite all their desperate attempts at investigating Trump for the last 4 years they have come up with zip.

Let's hope the day the Biden Crime family is investigated.

Actually there are a great number of Marxist Globalist that could be tried for TREASON amo st other things.

Then we also have everything relating to the Covid/"vaccine"  genocide.

There can't be many parties in the the world as corrupt, amoral and perverted than the CCP Demonrats.

But the tide has turned and now 55%of Americans think there was political fraud. Including 30 % of democrats.

The Arizona forensic audit is going to break this massive election fraud wide ope.

Meanwhile Fauci is sweating bullets.

As things break open these scumbags will turn on each other to save their necks.

Now please redrooi, you nasty wee commie, just know you are the board's absurd buffoon along with that chump sharkstink.

Got it. 

Hahahahahaha.

SE
SebPro2,680 posts
29 Jun 2021, 16:32
#4
29 Jun 2021, 16:32#4

15 months...very lenient for this despicable human being.

He still faces charges of many criminal activities in Pietermaritzburg High Court. Will this carry on whilst he is incarcerated...will he enjoy a long ride in a police van to Maritzburg from ie Johannesburg or N'kandla to appear. He deserves to be jailed for life for what he has done to this country...in China he would face the injection. He is a criminal of the worst kind...absolutely no remorse for what havoc he's caused.

Zuma is also facing additional legal woes as he is standing trial to face charges related to bribes that he allegedly received during South Africa’s 1999 arms procurement deal.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Jun 2021, 17:09
#5
29 Jun 2021, 17:09#5

He will be brought to Court from prison when the arms corruption case is being heard .   However, that is the least of his worries.    When the Zondo Commission  report is finalized  there will be  dozens of court cases and the accused rats will turn on Zuma  to save their own necks/

He is not the only politician in trouble  = the VBS bank scandal will  get  Malema and Shivango in jail too.    

  

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
29 Jun 2021, 18:03
#6
29 Jun 2021, 18:03#6

about time...but Cyril can still pardon him I suppose...or he'll get "weekend parole" wink wink...or "medical parole"...LMAO! lI'll believe it when I see it.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
30 Jun 2021, 11:38
#7
30 Jun 2021, 11:38#7

Lock ou Zuma up and put Stinkvis and redrooi in the cell with him!

SH
sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
30 Jun 2021, 11:41
#8
30 Jun 2021, 11:41#8
Beeno will be in the bottom bunk with Trump on the top. What a happy jail cell this would be. 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Jun 2021, 13:59
#9
30 Jun 2021, 13:59#9

SB 

The last effort of the New York DA went awry and there will be no charges against Trump.   The whole Demcoratic leadership is operating like a Mafia gang and they are all corrupt.   Let me give you a basic insight on ho/w the criminals operate.   Money was ap[proved by Congress to help people through the Pandemic and Biden now advise them to use the funds not for Covid related issues - but to hire and retain Policemen.  That obviously is fraudulent.    However, the fake media see nothing wrong with it.    

How much of the money actually reach beneficiaries  is another question.    Most of the money voted goes to the politicians and their cronies.   As an example Congress voted 2015 (Under Obama) for $16 billion to help Baltimore to recover from their self-inflicted problems.  Nothing wa done - bu the money actually vanish into thin aor.   

That is the way the Democrats operate.and there is not a  single senior Demcorat leader who should not be  in jail .         .     .       

SH
sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
30 Jun 2021, 14:11
#10
30 Jun 2021, 14:11#10

You are entitled to your opinion, but most of the civilised world thinks Trump is the most corrupt politician from a Western country since Hitler.

That is not saying the other politicians are not frauds and crooks, but Trump is the worst of a bad bunch. 

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
30 Jun 2021, 14:28
#11
30 Jun 2021, 14:28#11

...and yet, after 4 years of intense investigation into his af fairs, no hard evidence presented, only unproven accusations.

SH
sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
30 Jun 2021, 14:36
#12
30 Jun 2021, 14:36#12
Trump had the protection of being president. He no longer has this, and there are multiple ongoing cases that are progressing nicely this year. 
It seems New York will be the first to file criminal charges, this week.
This is for bank fraud and tax evasion. 
Paying no corporate tax is bad enough. 
Trump actually makes a loss with no profit- and then steals tax. So instead of owing tax, the government owes him tax money. Most of his companies are just fronts to make huge losses, so absorb any profit that Trump's companies make, allowing him to steal tax from people that have made contributions.




CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Jun 2021, 20:06
#13
30 Jun 2021, 20:06#13

SB

Best advice - stop following the fake news = there is zero they can do against Trump and that is a  fact.   The DA for New York shut down the case about taxation against Trump because media reports - especially based on lies  - do not comply with evidence in court cases.   

What tax money did Trump steal?    If there are things his companies did wrong - he would have been in jail already..     Trump has about 150 companies of which a fe w went belly-up - normal in the business sector.   In 2005 already according to the media he paid $38 million tax for personal income.   It would be very much higher now.    

In any event you have no evidence about Trump and his taxers and your story is laughable, to say the least.   This type of tripe comes from the media who has been so bad only 29% of the residents in the USA say they are reliable  sources of news,   They have in the past  5 years in their attack on Trump lied so much that they never had anything true said about him.   So lay of them - they are liars and untrustworthy imbeciles.  

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
30 Jun 2021, 20:11
#14
30 Jun 2021, 20:11#14

This one-eyed and ignorant drivel from the same blithering idiot who told us that Jacob Zuma was a gentleman and a great leader.

LMAO!

Take it from whence it comes!

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
30 Jun 2021, 20:19
#15
30 Jun 2021, 20:19#15

Rudehole, you only started to call Maaik an idiot when he sided on the other side of US politics...you were a much nicer person while not being a total arse towards Maaik...one of your few redeeming qualities,  offered on the altar of "Orange Man Bad"...is it really worth it?

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
01 Jul 2021, 00:18
#16
01 Jul 2021, 00:18#16

As a CA I can assure ignorant buffoons like Sharktwit that given capital item write off its very easy to reduce an accounting profit to a tax loss.

Tax losses are carried forward until used up.

Trump's companies have been repeatedly audited by the IRS and given a clean bill of health.

Also note due to the complexity of the Trump organisation's Trump employs   CPAs to do His tax.

They will try their damdest to find something somewhere in this vast Trump Organisation that is wrong as part of the unprecedented witch hunt.

Trump has to be the cleanest operator in America as all investigation to date have come up with zip.

Imagine for a moment what would happen if the Biden crime family was investigated.

When Trump returns to the Oval Office he will install a real AG then watch out.

Biden and many other must hang for TREASON and mass genocide.


SE
SebPro2,680 posts
02 Jul 2021, 12:19
#17
02 Jul 2021, 12:19#17

Meanwhile in our own messy and unkept backyard, full of garbage, overgrown with weeds and thorns we have this ex president, slippery as an eel and with so many indictments it's a task to count, filing against the prison sentence at the eleventh hour.

News media in SA saying he will be arrested on Monday and put in Westville Prison.

Then it's reported that this piece of human shit Carl Niehaas also a convicted criminal and proven blatant liar launching a meeting outside Nkandla residence to stir more shit with the media and Zuma's bands of flotsam and jetsam and hooligan supporters.

Call in the police and army and if necessary use arms to get rid of this terrible man who has been responsible for destroying and looting this once beautiful country.

Tough and forceful action is more needed than ever otherwise it will never end. Cut the cancer out...before it eventually kills the whole.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 Jul 2021, 18:42
#19
02 Jul 2021, 18:42#19

Carl Niehaus is a POS...human vermin...fuck him and the horse he's riding...

AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
03 Jul 2021, 16:22
#20
03 Jul 2021, 16:22#20

The so called leaders like Zuma have since the early 60's received the Royal treatment at all times form most countries and grew to enjoy the "High Life" whilst flying around the world.

How could any voter think for one second that they (these ANC Terries) would be honest and concerned about the citizens or the country once in power is beyond me.

They are corrupt from the top to the bottom ranks of the ANC and all citizens and the country has paid the price for their looting.  

Hopefully some honest party will rise from this mess and save the country if it is not already to late.

I thank the Lord each and every day that I was given the vision and strength to make our move for the safety and financial security that we enjoy today.

We pray for all you folks who for what ever reason decided to stay and turn off the lights in RSA.

Vasbyt.

SE
SebPro2,680 posts
04 Jul 2021, 11:09
#21
04 Jul 2021, 11:09#21

Arthur it's absolutely terrible, Saffas are living daily with the Sword of Damocles hanging over their heads with the impending total collapse of stability inevitable...just a matter of time.

We have no rule of law, an incredibly weak president...petty infringements of law strictly enforced but very serious criminal activities by-passed by shit-scared government leaders, most criminals themselves.

Zuma is squirming and wriggling out again or so it appears...a weak government that is totally paralyzed by ineptitude to act...so pathetic...it's madness.

They can arrest a few for breaking petty lock down restrictions that have no bearing with logical common sense and jail them, whilst they blunder around a serious offender like Zuma for over many years and they still cannot jail him.

A classic case of the tail wagging the dog, no sense of priorities.

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 Jul 2021, 11:24
#22
04 Jul 2021, 11:24#22

Honest political parties and Africa?

AJ, we both know what the chances of that are. 

Africa's situation is 100% the result of African people not being able to resist the temptations that accompany positions of power. SAA, Eskom, Zuma, Transnet, Post Office, municipalities...everywhere you look, the blame for abject failure has nothing to do with Apartheid or colonialism  and everything to do with decisions being made by Africans in Africa which adversely affect the lives of Africans.

Africa will recover when Western technology is able to provide services from a distance and requires little to no local oversight.

Right now Zuma has armed MK "soldiers" outside his property threatening violence if he's arrested. The stupidity and shortsighetness of this incident is a microcosm of Africa in general. 

This place and it's people will suffer for many more generations. 


BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Jul 2021, 14:02
#23
04 Jul 2021, 14:02#23

What happens in South Africa has little consequence for the World.

What happens to the USA has dire consequences for the World.

Hence it is imperative that the fraudulent election of traitor China Joe be overturned. Then all the genocidal maniacs and coup plotters need to be tried and hung.

One hopes Z uma enjoys his stay in prison.


AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
04 Jul 2021, 19:05
#24
04 Jul 2021, 19:05#24

Plum you are correct.

My Doctor here in Canada is a Nigerian who qualified in RSA and I was amazed to hear his comments about the state of Africa.

He was a bit more vocal and concluded that Africa is DOOMED and would never recover.

An old buddy of mine  from Kempton Park contacted me a few years back as his son and daughter had received their relative degrees and were unable to find suitable employment.

He was inquiring into the possibility of his children applying for work in Canada prior to making the move in the hope that they could come here and after a period apply to sponsor him and his wife.

Well with a bit of help from contacts at this end we have the two offspring here and employed with the parents to follow in a few months time.

Not the first time we have been able to help Saffers get out and I am sure that it will not be the last as well.

Rather late for my friends as they are seniors and will not be able to claim Canadian pensions but they will get Canadian Medical coverage at least through their children.

Most important though is that they will be safe, have a house and family here and I am sure that the "Friends of South Africa" groups will assist them in any way they can.

So their is hope folks, but not in Africa,

SE
SebPro2,680 posts
06 Jul 2021, 09:59
#25
06 Jul 2021, 09:59#25

Today this arrogant criminal thinks the High Court in Maritzburg can overturn a ruling by the Concourt. 

How on earth does he think it's possible.

George Orwell's use of this statute in the satire Animal Farm, was brilliant in context when he got into the minds of socialistic megalomaniac leaders...

"All Animals are Equal, but Some are More Equal than Others."

Especially when it comes to the law. It's mind boggling and very disturbing.

IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT

The Helen Suzman Foundation said a lower court could not overturn the Constitutional Court's ruling, which gave clear instructions for Zuma to be arrested after he failed to hand himself over.

Zuma said he wouldn't go to jail and said the Pietermaritzburg High Court first needed to hear his application for a stay of sentence. But the Helen Suzman Foundation's Anton van Dalsen said it didn’t work that way.

“It's clear, the order was made by the Constitutional Court just over a week ago, and it's not for a lower court to interfere. It's logical,” he said.


PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
06 Jul 2021, 11:34
#26
06 Jul 2021, 11:34#26

Did you know...the Constitutional court rulings can be appealed in magistrates court?

Actually, you could just take the ruling to the post office and get the postmaster to undo it.

Haha Zuma, what bloody clown. 

Hope the prick rots in jail.

SE
SebPro2,680 posts
06 Jul 2021, 13:25
#27
06 Jul 2021, 13:25#27

Ramaphosa must be the weakest leader of a country ever in the history of not only this country but everywhere...a GUTLESS WONDER as the Aussies would call him...chicken-hearted and zero knackers.

Cele must follow, another coward who enforces lockdown rules zealously, even minor ones of an old lady taking her dog for a pee under lockdown 5 but has absolutely NO GUTS to enforce the Constitutional courts orders...shit scared. It's disgusting.

SE
SebPro2,680 posts
08 Jul 2021, 09:19
#28
08 Jul 2021, 09:19#28

At last the wicked wizard has been jailed, at present at the Estcourt Correctional Centre, a euphemistic term for a slammer in SA, which I hope will be filled with dozens more corrupt ANC government thieves. Ace will keep him company soon.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Jul 2021, 11:05
#29
08 Jul 2021, 11:05#29

The Zuma crooks are slowly eliminated - far too slowly for my liking.   I salute the  excellent Acting  Chief Justice Zondo for what he has achieved thus far and many more of the corrupt would go the route of "Go to jail.   Do not past go and do not collect R200".    

He did wonderful in the Zondo Commission of  Enquiry and his report is due in three mon ths time.   That is when all hell will break out as to the corrupt idiots who should all be in jail sooner rather than later.   They nearly destroy our beloved country..   

SE
SebPro2,680 posts
08 Jul 2021, 13:19
#30
08 Jul 2021, 13:19#30

I admire Raymond Zondo too, a man I sense with integrity and a gentleman. Not shy of work and responsibility too...so different to the black status quo.

Pity such a man cannot be president of SA. Chalk and cheese to the run of the mill black leader.

AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
08 Jul 2021, 20:27
#31
08 Jul 2021, 20:27#31

Rather, it's time for the war criminals Bush x2, Obamau, Blair, Brown, Biden, Hillary et al to receive punishment for their many, many crimes which exceed anything Zuma could have ever dreamed of: execution. Ende. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Jul 2021, 14:14
#32
09 Jul 2021, 14:14#32

By the way - things are looking up from a legal perspective  asz well.   Lets start with the following:-

*     Zuma.s high court application to cancel the order of the Constitution Court order for his imprisonment was rejected by the Gauteng High Court  with costs - it was the silliest application ever.\

*     Magashule - the ANC Secretary General who was suspended by them because of hundreds of millions Rand fraud was involved in while Premier of the Free State - applied to the same High Court to have his suspension annulled and his own suspension of Ramaphosa  confirmed  waalso met with the same result -rejected with costs.

*      The ANC suspended Niehaus - another ANC bigwig  who was in jail for fraud before - has been suspended  by the ANC and is likely to eb given the boot by them because of what hjappened woth the Zuma arrest,    

SE
SebPro2,680 posts
09 Jul 2021, 16:37
#33
09 Jul 2021, 16:37#33

Mike it was Pietermaritzburg High Court, not Gauteng. 

Justice Jerome Mnguni rejected Zuma's fruitless effort (vrot advocate anyway), Mfofu to stay the execution of imprisonment.

Hard to believe how anybody with half a brain could expect success.

— END OF THREAD —

More from Mikes Gripes