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The fastest a vaccine has been implemented is 5 years......

Started by Mozart4 REPLIES297 VIEWS· 15 Dec 2020, 17:04
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 Dec 2020, 17:04
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15 Dec 2020, 17:04#1

....said the gloating CNN anchor after the Donald claimed we might have one by year end. ‘I’m not confident in these vaccines’ said Como. This from ABC news represents the standard Media response:


I think we’re going to have a vaccine by the end of the year,” he told reporters later in the day.

But experts say that the development, testing and production of a vaccine for the public is still at least 12 to 18 months off, and that anything less would be a medical miracle.

“I think it’s possible you could see a vaccine in people’s arms next year — by the middle or end of next year. But this is unprecedented, so it’s hard to predict,” said Dr. Paul Offit, a professor at the Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania and the director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia.


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So much for Offit. As in most arguments with the media, Trump was right. But only because he lit a fire under the slow moving medical establishment to get this done. He created the competitive environment that had the best companies trying to outdo each other and got the funding in place to build huge vaccine stocks even before they were proven, taking the personal risk of being wrong.


And of course we have found, most recently in Germany, that even the most disciplined approach to the virus eventually succumbs. There is no effective defense against this new virus, except herd immunity and vaccines

Trump’s business man’s approach dramatically changed the time to get a vaccine....it is a miracle.  Trump probably  saved  millions of lives worldwide.

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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
15 Dec 2020, 17:52
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15 Dec 2020, 17:52#2
Given Sputnik5 was the first vaccine used, this proves Russian collusion...  Unless Sputnik was also part of operation warp speed.
It is well done to the scientists. The politicians have done nothing but allocate funds. If science was even at the level of 10 years ago, the vaccine would not have been created in such a short time...
Viral vectors and RNA technologies are new technologies that have sped up the process. Covid vaccines created by traditional means are taking much longer to create. 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 Dec 2020, 17:58
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15 Dec 2020, 17:58#3

Not really J&J is using a more traditional approach and they hope to be ready in January. As for the claim it was all the science....nonsense, Trump set up a competitive environment that amplified the urgency. Pushed the health agencies to accelerate their time tables. And allocated the funds that allowed early stock piling.

Brave, smart leadership.

Besides which the Media knew about the Science and they predicted 5 years ....said Trump was naive.  Bill Nye....the hahahaha.....science guy, said 2 years. The egg flows.

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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
15 Dec 2020, 18:03
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15 Dec 2020, 18:03#4
All the vaccine producers set target dates, including those that were not part of Operation Warp Reality. The plan was that before year-end some vaccines would be approved.

Biotech even stated they were not part of operation warp facts, other than taking a pre-order from the US government- as was the case with the UK and other countries who guaranteed to purchase a set amount of supplies (agreed before operation warp reality) 
The UK and the US have done exactly the same thing.
Pre-buy as many vaccines as possible, hoping that at least 1 or 2 would turn out to work. 
If the Oxford vaccine is approved, it will apparently be faster to produce massive amounts. And distribute massive amounts of vaccine. 
Oxford scientists will be delighted to find out that without Donald Trump it would have taken 5 years...
If the Oxford vaccine is successful, the UK and India are in prime position to have most of the vaccine. 
Trump screwed up not buying more of the 1st batch of Biotech vaccine, and much of it is guaranteed to other countries around the world. 
Now Trump has passed a law saying that no vaccine can leave the US until all Americans have been vaccinated- so he is trying to take all of the first batch (and the second one in development). 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 Dec 2020, 18:12
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15 Dec 2020, 18:12#5

If they are successful! The Oxford ‘scientists’ couldn’t even figure out how much vaccine they were giving their patients........waaaaaaaahhhaha.....that fills me with a lot of confidence

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