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The HC/AZ cocktail....a few thoughts

Started by Mozart15 REPLIES448 VIEWS· 30 Mar 2020, 17:28
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Mar 2020, 17:28
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30 Mar 2020, 17:28#1

The cocktail of hydroxychloroquine and the Z pack is now  emergency approved for the virus, despite Faucci’s obvious reservations. I guess the ‘anecdotal evidence’ became too compelling. I’m not sure exactly what this man has done to help this fight so far, other than being all over the map. This weekend he was out there predicting more than 100000 US deaths. I can’t see how that helps.


Back to HC/AZ.....HC was shown to be strongly effective in vitro against SARS. This made it a candidate for the Wuhan virus. Then Chinese doctors, unsung heroes in all this, found Lupus  patients who were on long term HC were not getting the virus and started using it for virus treatment.


Next we had the well publicized French trials, which were a small ray of hope, again all but sneered upon by the good Dr Faucci. But strong results were recorded among 80 patients.


Early use of HC/AZ in New York hospitals has also been encouraging. This was off label use....but off label use is not uncommon and not illegal. Over 20% of scripts are used off label (please note SB). 


The drug cocktail is in short supply with some Lupus patients volunteering to go off the drug to help the cause....good for them.


In the meantime companies like J&J, scandalously attacked by scumbag lawyers for years over issues like the fake talcum powder cancer story, is way up today on news of a possible vaccine.


There are real contributors in this time of crisis, doctors, scientists, patients willing to forego the drug in tests, brilliant companies and ordinary people who are keeping the world going while we all shelter ......I hope we have the wit to recognize them.

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sharkbokCaptain23,213 posts
30 Mar 2020, 17:42
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30 Mar 2020, 17:42#2
That sounds positive. 
To clarify I said that it should be approved by the FDA as soon as possible- so that it can be prescribed by pharmacies and GP's. Approved for the treatment of Corona (not for malaria). Beeno's thread was specifically about selling the drug. (E.g. Pharmacies). 
I also made note that hospitals can have more discretion in life and death situations. If someone is going to die, there is no harm in trying possible cures (even if not proven or accepted by the FDA, or other countries health organisations like the NHS). 
The original post with my comments makes this all clear. 

My point was that I doubted that Democratic governors were trying to block its usage to get political points. (i.e. that people should die instead of getting a treatment that may work). Many governors are old and more vulnerable to the virus- they would be putting themselves and family members at risk preventing the approval of possible cures. Also, I doubt they were as evil to actually want 2 million people to die. 
I was commenting that the Beeno conspiracy stuff was BS.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Mar 2020, 17:44
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30 Mar 2020, 17:44#3

Mozart

Is the US self-supplying the drugs mentioned by you or must the drugs also be imported from China?   It is worrisome that the media other than Fox News are shooting down any suggestions to curtail the impact of the virus infections through available drug usage.              

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Mar 2020, 18:03
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30 Mar 2020, 18:03#4
SB
Your post at the start was an outright attack on Trump for saying something which led to the killing of a person in Arizona and that his comments was a direct reason for the death,   CNN knew the person concerned did not take the normally prescribed drugs for malaria - but a fish tank  cleaner, but kept quiet about it.   So you were as crooked as CNN when you came up with that story,   
There is no conspiracy theory here on anything,   The Democrats are trying their utmost to prolong the crisis for their own political benefit.  You only have to listen to the comments of the leadership and their media sidekicks to see they are not interested  in the crisis being reduced and the death of people is regarded as a political benefit for them.   Their whole approach is in fact  sickening and counter-productive,
Beware of CNN - they specialize in fake news.           
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sharkbokCaptain23,213 posts
30 Mar 2020, 18:09
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30 Mar 2020, 18:09#5
@CleverWanker, 
I never said anything of the sort...Copy and paste my comments with a link to prove this you senile old fool. 
On a completely different thread, I did mention the tragedy of the couple that took a version of the drug that was for cleaning pools. I also made note that they were from Arizona, so not the sharpest pencils in the box...  This was widely reported by all newspapers in the UK, and across the world. Some newspapers pointed fingers at Trump, others merely reported the event.
To falsely accuse US governors of wanting to sacrifice people to get political points, makes you no better than what you are saying they are....
US governors seem pretty old, so they are the ones most at risk of death from Corona...


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Mar 2020, 19:26
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30 Mar 2020, 19:26#6

Here’s an example of Madame Defarge’s   ‘bad’ companies she wants to put out  of business:


Johnson & Johnson (JNJ)

Status: Human trials to begin in September

? Johnson & Johnson, the world’s largest pharmaceutical company, was one of the first drug developers to announce a Covid-19 vaccine program. On Monday, the company said that the vaccine could be available for emergency use early next year, and that it will start manufacturing it immediately. The company is planning to begin testing the drug in humans by September. It said Monday it planned to make the vaccine available “on a not-for-profit basis for emergency pandemic use.”


.......


So this company is going to give away the vaccine for emergency use. It’s starting to produce it right now in the hope that it works. If it fails they will eat the costs......no profit, the only possibility is loss.


The greedy drug companies in mid season form.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
30 Mar 2020, 20:59
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30 Mar 2020, 20:59#7

Moz I posted reports on the following:

Trials were conducted in France, China and Australia with 100% success rates.

A NY hospital treated some 100 people with 100% success rate

A NY doctor treated 699 patients with 100% success rate. The link provided had a video where this Doctor explained how Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin and Zinc Sulphate was the cocktail he used.

Then the French doctor who performed the first French trial did a second trial with 80 infected people. Here 1 lady of 86 died.

The French have authorised the use of these drugs to fight the virus.

Trump informed the nation that 1,100 infected people in NY will be treated with these drugs. The results will be known in days.

Assuming these reports are true, and personally i think they could be, then these drugs could be a game changer. The cost of a treatment is also only $20.

Mike, poor sharktwit is an ignorant weasel, a pedalar of fake news and and a clown of note. Moz has schooled this clown twice now but the buffoon seems unable to understand the most basic things. He is here to make a jackass of himself on a daily basis. His ideal woman is Nanzi Piglosi and Biden to this dope is a great presidential candidate Hahahahahahahahahaha


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Mar 2020, 01:12
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31 Mar 2020, 01:12#8

Yep HasBeen you have been on this from the beginning. Who knows if it’s the long term answer, but it deserves to be treated seriously.


On a separate note I just watched a piece on Abbott Labs 15 minute testing kit. Amazing device. It detects a minute genetic element from the virus, and magnifies it a billion times inside the box. So a positive can be established in 5 minutes, no sending it out to labs....a negative takes 15 minutes.


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
31 Mar 2020, 12:01
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31 Mar 2020, 12:01#9

Yes Moz American companies thanks to President Trump great leadership are getting very active in fighting the Wuhan Virus. 

A major point of interest regarding these drugs has been the lack of coverage of the MSM and Demorat governors banning its use. 

The demonrats have tried to weapinisze the virus. Unfortunately for these duncrs their early action, all on video, show how foolish they were. 

I saw a great article on American Thinker regarding that snake George Soros. This traitor and his 40, 000 odd NGOs  must be dealt with. He is a deadly menace.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Mar 2020, 13:03
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31 Mar 2020, 13:03#10

Beeno

I read the Soros article myself.   The man is a Communist through and through and His Open Society entails a dictatorship that would be worse than Stalin, Hitler and Mao combined,  

He has effectively taken over the Democrats and his principle agent on that is Adam Schiff, who will become the Secretary of Sate should Biden win the Presidential election in November, . By that means the USA Government will fund Soros's NGO = like happened already with Grant Finding to the Ukraine - when the fired Ambassador routed money to Soros's NGO's.   

It is weird - you never see Soros criticizing Communist China  - that is apparently his favoured country in the world.   That is further proof of his International Communist Agenda,   He is bent on destroying the USA, but China represents his ideal Government.   He also favours the Communist Regimes in Cuba and Venezuela.  

This pig hates Christianity and Judism and wants to use the Muslims to destroy those two religions.       

This man is as great a thread to the world as Lenin, Stalin Hitler and Mao was,     Why he is allowed to fund the undermining of the US Constitution beats me hollow,  He is to my mind a traitor of the worst kind imaginable. .          

                 


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Mar 2020, 13:17
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31 Mar 2020, 13:17#11

SB

I think that  you know about the thread you started on the Arizona case and you linked it to the  actual utterances by Trump - just like  CNN wants you to. 

My comments that the  Democrats want to use the coronavirus as a political tool against Trump and is paramount in their thinking,   You just have to listen to their comments on he issue as expressed by the leading Democrats.   It is also clear that they do not care five cents if people die because of the virus.

There is just one objective they have in mind and that is political power,   A 100 000 deaths would be welcomed by them of it would add to their chances in the November election.   They are the worst political skunks ever in the history of the USA.   Crooks to boot as well.                    

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Mar 2020, 13:17
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31 Mar 2020, 13:17#12

Duplicate               

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Mar 2020, 13:17
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31 Mar 2020, 13:17#13

Duplicate

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
31 Mar 2020, 15:32
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31 Mar 2020, 15:32#14

Mike having followed US politics for some 5 years now on a daily basis I have been astounded by the degree of betrayal of the American people by establishment globalists and their media.

America has to take drastic measures if they are to survive this onslaught.

God help us all if America doesn't win this fight.

Blair and Brown let the cat out of the bag. Now one wonders is the ousting of trump and the establishment of a world government the real reasons all this BS ha s happened. Remember too all the virulently anti  nation state rhetoric from the EU globalists, their open borders etc.


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AJHPro3,183 posts
31 Mar 2020, 16:47
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31 Mar 2020, 16:47#15

All for money guys.

A hedge fund operator Acker I believe is his name appeared on one of the "Snowflakes " TV channels a week or two ago spouting the demise of the USA economy and the agony that is to follow global markets.

Low and behold now it appears that he made over 2 Billion Dollars from his "Hedged Funds" in the last week all from the investments he made prior to his TV appearances and with the rise in the USA market.

Sure appears to be a case of cleaning up after adding and ensuring to the fall......

Trust W Barr has been appraised of the transactions Acker arranged.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
31 Mar 2020, 18:22
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31 Mar 2020, 18:22#16

Is Barr doing his job is the question. The next few months before the election should tell the story. 

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