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The Historic sitution of instability in the Middle East

Started by clevermike1 REPLIES403 VIEWS· 21 Jun 2025, 14:23
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jun 2025, 14:23
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21 Jun 2025, 14:23#1

One has to go bqack in history of Islam since Mohammed started the Islam religion and beecame the predominant religion in covering most of the ME and North Africa. and parts of Europe - especially in Spain and the Baltics. In 1452 the Ottomans - from the Balkans - formed an alliance with the Turks and conquered Constantinople - today Istanbul endng the Easten Roman Empire, Under the Under the Ottoman Caliphs the Empire grew to cover most of he North Africn areas adjacent to the Mediteranian and Atlantic oceans as well is what is today regarded as he ME countries, Through the centuries the Ottoman Empire got weaker and in the Islam religion developd two major and a number of other smaller Muslim factions leading to continuous wars and instability in what is the Muslim World. Most of the internal wars in the Muslim world were between the two major sects in the Islam religion - namely the Sunii's and the Shia's. The Shia's gained autoomy in what is today Iran and Saudi Arabia and wa the cause of continuous instability.


All of the present separate countries in the Middle East came about after World War 1 when Brithish and French forces helping various organizations in battles against the ottoman rulers occupied and turned various countries into potectorates, Those included what is today Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and msot of North African countries and even for five years UK troops occupied Istanbul until kicked out by the Turks under Ataturk establishing Turkey,


British, French and Italian rue in colonies and protectorates lasted until the 1950's when a string of countries got independece and those countries include Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Indonesia, Egypt, Libya, Algeria, Lebanon,Syria and Palestine under Jordan. During the period before and after WW2 a huge retttlement of Jews was established in what si today Israel. That caused continuous Was between the Jews ad the arious Muslim countries since 1948. The 193 war let tpo Israel occupying a small part of Syria - the Golan Heights - and the est Bank of the Jordan River area - previously part of Jordan - as well as Gaza,- also part of Jordan.


As a result of internal resolutions and infighting caused an endless number of wars and the USA meddling in the ME together with their NATO country allies kept interfering in ME countries - especially since the ME countries became a huge supplyer of oil; to the Europen Countries. The NATO countries in general supported some rulers and in oter cases undermined them. In general the NATO contries were not interfering in Turkey - being a NATO ally - ut they took part in vrious intenal lesser-known wars and covil wars in Muslim countries,


The major problem started with Iran where the Shia faction reactionaries were supported by the leftists and iberals in both Europe and the USA supported the Aytollaha supporters in their violent overthrow of the Shah and then ther eal probems between the USA and Iran started with the new Government occupying the USA embassy and holding the USA citizen hosatge, The USA invovlement started in 1984 until 1989 when there was a war between Iraq - under Hussein and the Ayatollah Government in Iran. Hussein wa regarded as the USA main ally in the ME and they provided arms and other sasistance to Huseein as their man ally in the ME. The love affair between te USA Govenrment lasted until the Iraqi's occupie Kuwait - resulting in the first Iraq war in 1991.


In the meantime Iran becam te main sponsor of Muslim terrorism woldwide with supporting a string of civil wars worldwide, While the USA with the aid of their NATO allies atatcked and and occupied Afganistan and Iraq in 2001 annd 2003 respectively. Trump during his first term in office had to deal wth withdrawal of the USA from invovleent in ME country instability, With the consent of the NATO allies still active in Aghanistan a withdrawal of foreign troops ere agreed upon with the Afghan Government and the Taliban. The treaty signed by the Afghan Government and the Taliban was that the Afghan Civil War would end and a ruote to constitutional Government be establishe and Trump in negotiations told the Taliban that any civil war attack would be followed by airial bombardment of the Taliban forces. However, the Biden Presidency ignored the signed agreement and in panic in the middle f the night fled from Afghanistan in the middle of te night laving behind a massive amount of ams for the Taliban. It also paid $68 billion of aid to Afghanistan organized by the UN apapre tly to aid te hungry in Afgahnisatan - but in relaity to get agreemeent to evacuate American citizens and green card holders out of the country. Even the evacuation became a catastrophe with 125 000 people totally released on the behest of the Taliban entering the USA.

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Trump is trying to find a permanent solution to the total instability in the ME and thus far agreement has been reached wih most of the ME countries bar Iran and their surrogates in Iraq, Even the new regime in Syria got support from Turkey t estbalish relationship and co-operate with the USA in establishing a permanent solution to stabilize the situation in the Middle East.

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He gave the negotiators representing Iran and the USA 60 days to negotiate a settlement based on the above, The Ayatollah Government negotiators were never serious about meeting of the above demands, .




The sore point was to reach a settlement of a permanent nature in the ME and his recent visits to th e ME aimed at peaceful economic development in the ME countries and getting rid of terrorissm in the ME countries, . Turkey supported the initiatives - but a special issue involving Iran was that Trump insists on two issues to be settled, namely -


  1. that Iran stop processes to develop nuclear arms; and
  2. that Iran stop fuunding of terrorist spmonaorship in many countries,


In return all sanctions against Iran would be lifted and funds could be used to upgrade the living conditions of all residnts in Iran. Iran represeatives were hot and mostly cold in the negotiations and two days before the 60 days menioned above, The Israeli's particualrly fearful of a nuclear-armed Iraq lauched air attacks on Iran. Trump apaprently was informed by the Israeli Govenment of their intentions - but Trump thus far has only assisted Israela gainst air attacks on Iasrael and here are signs the Itran Goenment will take part in the negotiations and Trump gave hem 2 weekss o come up with proposals for a settlement iro Iran.


If not thee thret is clear, Trump will allow the A i force oa ttack Iran nuclear and uranum env-richements porjects and also kill the Ayatollah - something he refused to do, That is were the situation is at present.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jun 2025, 07:52
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22 Jun 2025, 07:52#2

The US Government has shown its teeth and attacked three uranium enrichmnet sited in Iran wot bunker bombs and missiles from US submarines that destroyed totally three sites where Israel has not ben able tod estroy sites - using six stealth bombers carrying bunker bombs weighing 30 tons each and destroyed te three most dangerous nuclear enrichment facilities that will destroy the means of the Ayatollah regime to make nuclear bombs, The Fordow site was hit by 6 such bombs - while the other two sites were hit by missiles fired from submarines.


So now the Ayatollah has one choice only - stop the development of nuclear arms and funding and supply weapons to terrorist organizations. In the USA terrorist attacks insde the USA will be caused by terrorists wh streamed into the SA while Biden was supposed to be the President. The Democratic Party will scream blue murder bcause one of the sources of corruption by them has been destroyed and will get a US Judge to try to get a verdict that Trump Government from attacking nuclear enrichment faclities is starting a war against Iran without approval of the House and Senate and they will get punished by being against the USA safety interests as a result, .


The latest riots in Seattle and Portland after an Antifa mob attacked people meeting in a Park to stop terrorist attacks on people. Bearing in mind Obama was instrumental in starting BLM and Antifa in 2014 as subsidiaries of the Democratic Party by 2020 used terrorism to stop certain votergroups to vote against the Party, Antifa always acted on he instruction of he Demcoratic Party - since for funding purposes they depend on the funders of the Democratic Party and the Party leadeship using federal funds to fund the two susidiaries while Biden was President. So now their terrorist subsidiaries will help the foreign terroists in the USA to attack Federal Government facilities in USA cities together with the federal government under Biden importing terrorists and criminals into the USA.


The support for the Democratic Party hovered just below 30% at present and that may well drop to less than 25% by the end of June 2025 unless the Democratic Party get rid of the ultra-leftist leadership in the House and Senate,


On site the attacks will be co-ordinated by articles from The Guardian being the source for member atacks on Trump - but apparently that will destroy the support base of the Demcorats further in the USA - while support for the Ayatollah regime has been low for years now if voter percentages are borne in mind and the leadership of the Iran Governent and especially the army has been reduced dratically by the Israeli bombardment ofthe Ayatollah regime may fall as well. The first sign of problems will be when more than 100 000 have been imprisoned for involvemeent in anti Government demonstations in Iran has been released or allowed to just walk out of Government prison facilities,


In any event the USA Government is fully aware of where the Ayatollah is hiding and can kill him if he misbehaves - the Israeli's know that as well.and Trump has told them sepvifically not to kill the Auyatollah and that ill mean he is safe as long as the negotiations can continue within 14 days, if that does not happfn the Ayatollah would be eliminated as well.


In the Mid East other than the Houthi terrorist funded and armed by the Ayatollah Regime threatened to attack USA warships - a bombing attack on the Houthi's army has been destroyed their major arms already and their leadership will join the Ayatollah without the 72 virgins each would be provided by Allah would get into short supply.


It is dangerous for countries to undermine the chief objective of Trump - namely peace through negotiation - and Russia may get more lenient on the ending of the Ukraine War as well.



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