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The Joe Biden pardons

Started by Mozart9 REPLIES587 VIEWS· 22 Jan 2025, 01:55
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Jan 2025, 01:55
#1
22 Jan 2025, 01:55#1

Is there a Biden family member who hasn’t been pardoned. What was this family doing to make the stain of a pardon more acceptable than defending yourself in a court of law. 

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
22 Jan 2025, 04:35
#2
22 Jan 2025, 04:35#2

What was this family doing to make the stain of a pardon more acceptable than defending yourself in a court of law.

Mebbe the awareness that their nemesis is a revengeful batshit f'wit .

Biden pardons Fauci, Milley and the Jan. 6 panel. It’s a guard against potential ‘revenge’ by Trumphttps://apnews.com/article/biden-trump-fauci-milley-pardons-january-6-3cba287f89051513fb48d7ae700ae747

Trump said after his inauguration that Biden had pardoned people who were “very very guilty of very bad crimes” — “political thugs,” Trump called them.

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
22 Jan 2025, 07:21
#3
22 Jan 2025, 07:21#3

"Mebbe the awareness that their nemesis is a revengeful batshit f'wit"

What a cop out

Maybe this will shed some light....

Biden's Betrayal

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
22 Jan 2025, 07:27
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22 Jan 2025, 07:27#4

Jan 6 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jan 2025, 07:59
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22 Jan 2025, 07:59#5

 BB

If you re too stupoid to realizse it = there will be no revenge on anybody - bit w haat th ere is sis prove of corruption and other criminal offences that the "pardoned" people are nd were involved it.    If these people did not commit crimes they had nothing to worry about and their would be no pardons needed.

The "pardons" confurmed investigation of criminal activities of a various nature that Biden, his family and others are involved in that they are aware of  and Biden is trying to prevent prosecution of criminal activities by them.

It has nver  happened before that people have been "pardoned" fopr crimes they did th ey h ave been charged in a court of law with and fond guilty of before there were charges laid and people sentenced for criminal activities.   So Biden knows or at last is handlers know what they did that was od a ciiminal nature that were committed and th e emdia is in hysteria about and try to prevent investigation and people being charged of,

This is not the situation practised by the Biden Administration whee peoeple were arrested and where the courts were used aginst them based o fake c haarges - like  happened in the case of the January 6 story- where eivedence emerged that the media lied about hat happened.   The media sid t here ws an insurrection  by people on 6 January and stated for instance that 5 police officers were murdered on the day in question - which was a lie in  the first instsnce/  there were no [eople invovled in assault of police officers and nbody a chared wiith those crimes.

What ha;ppened as that the FBI and te ohers created a situation where  the leis invovled was evident  and cases were laid against people based on lies and withholding f evdnce fom the court - the evidence was clear that what happened were judcial undeminingof the USA Constitutiton by the USA.   

The sttuation is that cthe Bodens became a ciminal gang and they comitted crimes that  proven by the banks advising the  FBI that the money transfers from shelf companies to Biden family members were money-laundering by th Bidens - with an amount of $40 million invovled in such transfers.    The FBI filed the reports from the banks and refused to investigate why the transfers were obvious illegal - but teh FBI and Justice Deprtment knew it was illegal - but  covered up by theJustice Dpartment and the FBI.   

Why did al the harge against  Trump laid since January 2024 collapsed in the court system?  The nswer was clear - they State cold not prov that thee were any evidence of crimes that the Justice Department and FBI could prove.    It became a political vendetta that Biden tried to prevent Trump from  being elected as President.   Biden himself said that the Justice  Department  should have laid charges earlier,   In case after case the system was used to try and get Trump and other of his supporters found guilty of criminal offences and the courtsin the end rejected the charges or they were withdrwn by Smith.   

Like ht happened in teh USA was ttoal Gestapo methods and was absiclly contitutitonal and called weaponizing of the Justice System against plitical opponents -something used by dictaorships against politicl opponents and that is what the .Biden  Administration did.   hey lost th eelction and fea that the mai purpetrators involved ce would e covered up.   

Why "pardon" people if they did not commt crimes and may face the consequencesm   o ciminal activities in court?   The answer was cotained in a Supreme Court ruling of 1913 - the only case on teh issue goes back to 1913 - when the Suoreme Court ruled that acceptance of such pardons represent admission of guilt of ciinal offenes having been committed.   So Biden's pardons means the bastards invovled did commit crimes and they need protection against judicial charges being lid against them.

Why did the courtsthrow out the cases against Trump nd hy was judicial process abhorted when used.   Because the actions of ciminals were protected and the charges against Trump and other opponents of the Biden Regime was fake and could not stand up in the USA higher courts?  Eay - the Justice system became a poitical farce,

Live with it - if the evidence  of bribey corruptin and lies used bythe Bide Administration were properly investigated the poeple involved in the "pardons" would al end up in jail.   Abuse of the system is why court cases collapsed and where the reason for actual pardoning of people invovled in the  January 6 story was a result of the jusidicial system.   The FBI and Washington Police used a system where -

*   the AG under Grlnd instructed courts not to allow for granting of  bail to the accused;

*   the Police threatened to keep the arrested people in jail until they plea guilty to the charges laid by the Justice Depatment since actual evuidence indicated the Department of Justice Department would not eb proved in a contested case - so the only system used was tot ake people to court if they admit guilt - a syste that caused over 400 peoples still held in jail because they refuse to admit they were guilty of the charges laid - a process that was total legal dictatrial BS the Gestpo speciaized in.

*    when the matter reachd the Supreme Coutt the Court ruled that charges laid by the Justice FDepartment was nt supported by evidence presneted and they ordered the justice Department to lay apprpriate charges that should be laid should stand up in courts of law and that all evidence - inclusive of the security camera evidence should be provied to the defense,    That ruling was given in November 2024 and the system used by the FI and Jstice Departments collapsed and no further charges laid.   So over 400 people who reuse admitting guilt to ake charges are stil held in jail.

Trump had judicial evidence of total legal abuse of the Justice systema when he aprdoned all the cases involved,   ll the ses involed ilegal and unconstitutitonal abuse of the Justice system.

Now back to the Justice system in the USA,   Unlike in district court cases were political ause happen - the Judges in Federal Courts keep to normal and accepetable legal practice so nobody should be afraid to be illegally jailed in he USA.   S the aprdons were sham and not needed .unles here were actual crime committed and proven in courts.

So judicial ause is not a factor that should be feared in the USA - unles the sytem is weaponized against political opponents and then te cases will collapse in courts.   So iden knws he peple e "pardoned" was guilty of offences and wats to protect them from being legally charged in courts.   In the case  of he January 6 investigation by the House the provision of all documets used by the Pelosi Committee were to be submitted to the House selec committee dealing with the issue..   Thousands of documents submtted to the Pelosi Committee was nee found ebcause it was destroyed by the Committee,    In the USA destruction of documents being submtted to Congress is a serious criminal offense in law,   There is proof that documents were destroyed by the Pelosi Committee because it was against the "findings" of tht Committee    

So what happened that docments were destroed by the Pelosi Committee and that laid the cahges fo such destructio laid gainst Committee members.  An charge laid would ahve to be proved as valid in courts - so undernormal circumstcnes the Committee memebrs ahd no reson to fear prossecution.    The Committee memebrs knew abou teh onseqences of ciminaliy in the destruction of documents and the winnin by Trump was neve exepcted by the Biden egime n d now theya re in deep shit legally since the Justice Department and FBI would be cleared up to prven future abuses by the State of the USA juducial system like happened unde Biden.

Itis ot only teh Justice Department that was used by te Bie lt to rprotect them from being carged for criminal offenses - it fes much wider than that.   The hole finncial system used by the Federal system was abused through bribery and corruption,   Hdred of billions of dollars were spent by Goverment departments where the auditss revel that no evidence  could be providd onw aht money was used for and corruption becme the norm s a result,   The wole system becae corrupted and billions of dollars vanished into thin air,   That sytem must sop rill destroy teh county totally.   

That si why Trump appointed a new system of invesigaion as to what happened to  up to $2 trillion of the USA budget spent on fruitless, wasteful and corrupt expenditure.    The system is so corupt that the USA lan limit to cover state expenditure increased by $10,5 trillion dollars in the four years  - in the previous 20 years the average increase was  $26,5 trillion - ie an average of $1,325 trillion a year - in the last four years it wa $2,625 trillion per year,,  Mostto it is likely due to incmpetence, fruiless and wasefulexpenditure - but another of the major prolems is related to corruption.remains one ofthe problems involvng both politicians and bureaucrats problems  and that is one of the main prolems faced by a number of DP politicians.   

That is why the Democrats are in deep trouble and there are widespread coruption involvng the Democrat politicians involved.   They tried deperately to prevent the  appoitments of Bondi and Hegseth  as AG and Secretary of Defense,   I wuld end up in DP politicians and bureacrats edning up in jail due to corruption.   

In the case of General Milleey it goes much wider and  could relate to High Treason abd if charge some his protegees will end up in jail as well.


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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
22 Jan 2025, 08:35
#6
22 Jan 2025, 08:35#6

Seems like "Jan 06" is the rebuttal to any discussion or debate....

Shame

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jan 2025, 12:23
#7
22 Jan 2025, 12:23#7

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What happened on January 6 is a farce and the result was zero of any consequence - but there wered no real consequences of any permanent nature,

There was no "insurrection"    To understand that one has to bear in mind what the word in fct means:-

"A violent uprising against an authority or government."

So to call it a violent uprising the courts must be convinced here was violence involved ssince nobody was in fact kiiled or hurt by the uprsing,   There were no weapons carried by the peoe involved - so in that case he story started of thet he peeople invovled murrdered  5 Police Offices,  Biden hi,self claimed there were 5 such murders - but it turned out there were none.    Unlike the claims that dxeveloped after the failure o he murde stroy was that there was none of that either.  

Because it was clear that there was no INSURRECTION and no violence involved Speaker Pelosi decided to keep the scurity cameras recordings secret.    However, her successor as Speaker releadsed the video recordings  and that confirmed there was no violence invovled.     

The frst thing  when the House decided to appoint a Committee of 7 memebrs to investigate he issue and te C ommittee was supposed to consist of 7 membes mde up as follows:-

Democrats      =      4 members - one of whom would be the Chairman

Republicans    =      3 members,

Pelosi then did soething totally unacceptable in Huse Rules - she c hanged he membership to 5 Democratsa and 2 Republicans.    She then invited the Republican Party to nominate there two Representatives and  decided ob Cheyne and Kirtsinger to reressent the Republican Party.   At the time both were suspended from the RP caucus and since them both lost their nomination to the 2022 mid=term elections.    Te Hearings of the Committee became a political sideshow and propaganda  - co-ordinated by a Holliwood move director,   

owecver he Justice had heir own strategy:-

*     First of all they instructed the BI and other peple invovled not to allow for bail of the prisoners, 

*     The jialed people was then told that if they admit guilt they will be taken to court for sentencing - but until that happen and they refuse to admit guilt they will be kept in jail indefinitely.    That was in itself a total abuse of the Justice system of the USA.

*     The fact is gradually the people admitted guilt and they were routinely sentenced to remain in jail  for periods between 1 day and a month to cover the period they were illegally held in jail by the Justice Department,

*      There are still after 4 years over 300 prisoners held who refuse to admit guilt  to the charges the Justice Department compiled,

The situation ended up in thwe Supreme Court - who considered the charges laid by the Justice  Depparment an abuse of law and told the Justice Department to lay proper and apprpriate charges against the prisoners,   Tht only happened in October 2024 and the Justice Departmetnt o change the charges a instructed by the Supreme Court.    The election was imminent ad they hoped that the DP candidate would win.

The processes followed by the Plosi Committee referred to was follwoed up by the House Judicial Committeee.    The C ommittee decided to follwo standard House rules as to hearing of evidence and ensure that people giving evidence are not nder any pressure,

In the evidence it came out that Trump gave instructions to General Milley to send the National Guard to protect the Capitol against potentital trespassers and Milley reuse to cary out he instruction after he talked to Pelosi.    (That is why Milley may end up being  prosecuted for treason.   Afterwrds it turned out that Milley also was in regular telephonic contact with the Head of the Chinese Army - another treason problem.

In evidence it came out that Trump said at the emeting outside of Washington that ec annot stop the from having a protest meeting in Washington - but eh advsed tem not to breaka ny laws during the protest,   In evidence it also came out that there were invovlement of the FBI Wray denied that there were FBI agents in the crowd and then sad he did not know how many FBI agents was in th e crowd - but in evidence there were 200 such agents in the crowd - one of which was brought from Phoneix Arizona for the  purpose,    He was the man inciter of people to enter the Capitol - but was never arrested,    He even appeared before the Pelosi Committee - who thanked him for his evidence - which included he was not in the Capitol itself.    Hoever the official House Committee found it was  lie as the Scurity Cameras clearly showed he was in the Capitol,   The House Committee  sent a letter insisting that the Justice Department  treated him like they did oher protestors - but the Justice Department cahrged him with trespassing and he was givena sentence of two months community work,    

In te end the House Committee approved a 17 000 page report on the January 6 incidnt and that as a ttoal inditement of the Justice Deaprtment of the FBI and Justice Department as to what happened in the whole saga,    

Trumps Pardon of the people were not based on POLITICAL ABUSE OF THE JUSTICE SYSTEM in the cases invovled.    

After the House and the Senate members after the election they atsrt working on law that would forbid weaponizing of the Governmetn to weaponize and use the Justice System against political opponents - like  happened under the Biden Regime.

Despite all teh shouring and screaming the people will be set free - at least those stuill in jail and the media hyteria will end up in nothing,    

However, there were two woman killed by the Police on January 6  and the Justice Depatment to have a hearing on the two cases done,   So those  two cases will now be reviewed and the killers charged with crimes they committed in killing the two woman.    TRUMP CEARLY SAID EVERYBODY INVOVLED BE PARDONED - BUT THAT EXCLUDE THE TWO POLICE OFFICERS. INVOLCED,  

      


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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
22 Jan 2025, 12:31
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22 Jan 2025, 12:31#8

Seems like "Jan 06" is the rebuttal to any discussion or debate....

Its our version of Russia n Hoax!

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
22 Jan 2025, 12:34
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22 Jan 2025, 12:34#9

"Its our version of Russian Hoax!"

Good for you


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Jan 2025, 15:08
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22 Jan 2025, 15:08#10

So anger, since you claim there was no Russian hoax I guess that implies January the 6th was also invented. I don’t think that’s true, January the 6th was a serious mistake. But it has nothing to do with Biden’s frantic pardoning of his whole family after he said he wouldn’t do that. A shameful chapter in American politics demonstrating just how much profiting off position there is in the system. None more implicated than the Bidens .

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