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The most cultued and historic city in Europe - Vienna

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Oct 2023, 21:31
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22 Oct 2023, 21:31#1

Tomorrow is the start of tghe Vienna Open Tennis cham,pionship and it brought back personal memories on the city of Vienna,   I visited the city three times and in time I came to love and admire that city.  

Music was always the center of achievement of that wonderful city and here is a song people should listen to to get a real uderstanding of Vienna:-


https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=575641233&rlz=1C1YTUH_enZA1068ZA1070&cs=0&sxsrf=AM9HkKmjgX4eIiNiBqMRNkZ--tFcKsqXBQ:1698005776990&q=Wien+nur+du+allein+Text&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjg3KS5vIqCAxV6V0EAHQBGBIsQpboHKAR6BAgBEAY&biw=1152&bih=737&dpr=1#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:3e6a14bf,vid:A5ZOtcAXWc4,st:0


Enjoy it as much as I do.

By the way Vienna was aiibombed in WW2 and the main targets hit was the Operas House and the Schonbrunn Palace.      .   

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Oct 2023, 02:40
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23 Oct 2023, 02:40#2

So Rome is not the most historic city in Europe. They were writing poetry in Rome when the German tribes in the area which would become Vienna were painting themselves blue.  

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Oct 2023, 05:02
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23 Oct 2023, 05:02#3

Vienna was found as a city by the Romans - so try again. - sae as London.   After the fall  of the Roamn emire it gradually became the main city in Europe.   You know there is an anagram  in the entry to the Hofburg Palace \AEIOU

That was put thee and meant the following:-

In Latin - Austria est Imperare orbi universalis 

In German :  Allez Erdreich ist Ostreiches Unterthan

That was very true when Charles V was Holy Roaman Emperor, King of Spain ands Portugal and all Spanish and Portuguese colonies in South and  North America and elsewhere in the world.   virtually the whole of central Europe up to the border of Russia. were part of his emp 

The Austrian Emperors sponsored cultual development like Music and  art and that is a fact as well.     Rome was an ancient city where the Roman empire ruled supreme - but that city's rol was taken as Capital in  306 when Constantimne the Great moved the capital to Cnstantinople and in 472 the barbarians captured Rome and sacked the city. leaving only the ruins for which present day Rome is famous.   

.I was not talking of ancient Rome when dealing with this issue I was talking of the city after the dark Age ruling much of Europe.    The city never destgroyed and always improved - the polyglot city of a polyglot empire with many cultures eventually combined into a  whole.        .           .  

 

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
23 Oct 2023, 09:40
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23 Oct 2023, 09:40#4
Some name-dropping by the uncultured DumbMike. 

Athens was not so fortunate with the Christian Dark Ages...
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Oct 2023, 23:19
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23 Oct 2023, 23:19#5

 

Where did you get your BS  from.?    The Romnan empire collapsed due to a system that destroyed the empire from within.   Some of the emperors after the Empire spit into 2 when Constantinme moved the capital from the chronically terminally  ill system moved the capital of he Empire from Rome to Constantinople.    In fact before Rome was attacked by the barbarians and sacked and nearly totally destroyed the Western Empire capital was moved to Ravenna.    Whatever was left of the achievements of Rome as taken with the Emporer to Constantiniople - the present Istanbul,    The barbarian tribes destroyed the Western Empire and it was also under attack by the Muslims who by then has conquered virtually the whole empire   Christianity had nothing to do with it - the heathens took control,   England was overrun by the Vikings and the only person who saved it was Alfred the Great - who saved the country from barbarian invasions.     It was only by 800  that Charlemagne became the Emporer that saved Europe from being overrun by the Muslims.

The problem of the Roman Empire is very close to what is happening with the USA at present - the lack of honesty in Government and corruption was a major reason why the Western Empire fell - add to that plagues that killed a huge part of the population.   That is mirrored by so-called scientific research causing pandemics like Covid.    The pandemics decimating Rome was caused by filthy living conditions in Rome - you go to major US cities and you find the same conditions there that prevailed in Rome before the fall of the empire.    ,   

      

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Oct 2023, 01:39
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24 Oct 2023, 01:39#6

SB

The fact is the day the woke Culture you support destroy Vienna and its culture and history will be the day the western civilization will finally collapse,    But then  you and the brainless adherents of propaganda will cause such a war and that will destroy whatever is embodied in this  beautiful city will be destroyed anyway.            

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Oct 2023, 09:19
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28 Oct 2023, 09:19#7

TNo the top with th is one

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SebPro2,680 posts
28 Oct 2023, 09:34
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28 Oct 2023, 09:34#8

Vienna is lovely so is Rome but so is St Petersburg,Moscow and Budapest. All with with very ancient beauty and depth.

If you can afford it , go there and see for yourself and get a professional guide. It's mind boggling and modern cities cannot come close. Structures that are financially and creatively impossible to recipro cate today.

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AJHPro3,183 posts
28 Oct 2023, 11:36
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28 Oct 2023, 11:36#9

Plus you can enjoy free Arabian music night and day.

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SebPro2,680 posts
01 Nov 2023, 11:30
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01 Nov 2023, 11:30#10

We have lost humanity, humans are not evil, but the confuser of them is, that's the tragedy.

Until you have Christ in total control to save from your sinful self you won't have peace. Christ's sacrifice for each ones infirmities for to

free us is rejected by the angry and hurt because the worst converted are not true represetntatives but repententative individuals that want what the CREATOR TO SAVE US. GOD IS GOOD AND WANTS US ALL TO BE SAVED, AND HAS GIVEN US A SIMPLE PASSAGE TO GO DOWN TO ACHIEVE THIS ENORMOUS GRACE, WE DO NOT UNDERSTAND IT, BUT ACCEPT IT  TO TO BE CONTENT, HAPPY, GOD LOVES US. iF HE LOVES SO MUCH WHY DO WE HATE EACH OTHER SO MUCH, WE ARE JUST SINFUL AND NEED TO CHANGE, TO BE BORN AGAIN OF GOD'S SPIRIT AND NOT OF THE FLESH.

We are all sinners we need humility to recognise that. We all have sinned (some far more than we think but nevertheless we have) there's no degree, God is Holy and pure , cannot accept this discrepanc y and HE has given us His Son to stand in our place, HOW CAN WE REJECT THIS?

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