FIXTURESNo upcoming fixtures — check back soon.
FORUM / MIKES GRIPES /  The new Utopia

The new Utopia

Started by clevermike8 REPLIES272 VIEWS· 01 Oct 2022, 02:34
SHAREXFACEBOOKWHATSAPPTELEGRAMREDDITLINKEDIN
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Oct 2022, 02:34
#1
01 Oct 2022, 02:34#1

Stav and  SB has written repeatedly about the new 21st century era - but never really explain how people should behave to ger to that Utopia and what it really entails.   In a recent post Stav refers to "family" - which from the start of humanity was the key to human development as a system entailing dictatorial control like found in fascist and communist ideology.

Family destruction and replacement by bureaucrats was a key to Hitlerite and Stalinist ideology - so why is that dictatorial ideology now under attack again by so-called supporters of the New World Order they believe in?    

The second issue is they apparently believe that all religion should banned and oppressed - in other words they believe that there should never be freedom of speech and thinking on any issue should be banned.  They never display any idea that the New World order should be anything bar dictatorial during which people would be controlled by all means possible,   people should lose any career ideas other than being controlled by an unelected bureaucracy that will control what career they should follow without any choice about they want to take a holiday and where they may go.    What cars they may and may not drive - what they may or may not eat,   

From what they have written absolute control of the "lesser humans" by the so-called liberal elite is an essential element of their arguments,   In essence I got the impression that they are happy with living under a dictatorship provided the dictatorship meets with their beliefs.   

In fairness to them I believe they should explain in detail how they see the New World Order in action.                          

ST
Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
01 Oct 2022, 04:23
#2
01 Oct 2022, 04:23#2
Seriously... WTF!
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Oct 2022, 04:53
#3
01 Oct 2022, 04:53#3

Hahahaha….poor old Comrade, history out of a sub woofer.

BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
01 Oct 2022, 05:03
#4
01 Oct 2022, 05:03#4

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Oct 2022, 09:58
#5
01 Oct 2022, 09:58#5

Stav

Seriously - how do you see family life as a form of dictatorship     Why is loyalty to a country undemocratic - people seems to base sport support on national teams - but for everything else it is wrong and dictatorial.   

How can anybody guarantee  that the New World Order will be based on Democracy when two of the most populist countries in the world are dictatorship  and two have seriously defective Democratic norms - remember the 5 countries makes up 42% of the world population.   How can it be guaranteed when Democracy in African countries 'and in Muslim countries in Asia are virtually non-existent.   

Lastly  how can Democracy in the USA be protected when the Biden regime are attacking the basic principles of Democracy - namely freedom of speech and thinking - on a virtually daily basis.     There are no indications of what is really going on in the media you follow so you will not know about it, but at least study wider to see whether the threat posed by the regime is not serious.    When a person like ex-President Carter and even some senior ex-officials under Obama express serious reservations as to what is happening in the USA  under Biden - then something serious must be wrong.   

           

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
01 Oct 2022, 11:14
#6
01 Oct 2022, 11:14#6

Mike .. the new world order will usher in a dictator.

There will be no democracy.

Its all part of the coming tribulation.


CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
01 Oct 2022, 15:09
#7
01 Oct 2022, 15:09#7

America is only under threat from the Christian nationalist and their wish to have everyone controlled by their Christian beliefs. Trump is a supporter of this as he knows this is his best hope of getting back in.

If you think this will be giving freedom to all the people of America you are both blind and dumb.

You just want it as it makes you feel superior.

America has already dropped from a first world country to a developing country and if the Christian right takes power it will sink to a third world country like Afghanistan where the equivalent of sharia law will be enforced.

Dark days ahead for the USA unless common sense prevails

SH
sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
01 Oct 2022, 19:22
#8
01 Oct 2022, 19:22#8

So people that are not religious, do not have family values. This is the type of thing a brain-dead zealot would say, brainwashed beyond redemption...

I did not realise God was part of my family, especially given he has never attended any events

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Oct 2022, 20:43
#9
01 Oct 2022, 20:43#9

Listen Stav said -

"Nothing in their words indicates fascism?
How about the party slogan "God, family, fatherland" being a fascist slogan."

I do not condone any religion in politics and said clearly that people attacking  rleigion are in fact living in the 13th centuary when religion ruled over politics.   That si not the case anymire and to imply it is is BS.
He went on about family and that is what I queried - that I have serious reservations.    In fact I asled for clarification of the statement and pointed at the enw trend in the USA is to follow the Stalinist system where chidren are brainwshed to regard their parents as enemies an advocate the destruction of family as a social abomination.
I also asked how everybody disagreeing with you ais in fact against the 21st century beliefs.   
The above were to my mind legitimate based on what Stav and you claimed to be the case and  how we are going to that Utopia you always refer to?  If family life is a display of Fascism - what must replace it.             
— END OF THREAD —

More from Mikes Gripes