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The sham election coming up

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Aug 2024, 10:38
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13 Aug 2024, 10:38#1

The Demorats have orgnaized the election well and they know they are going to win.   However, they have a problem - in 20 States the Courts ruled that only US citizens has the right to vote in USA elections where they found that in States migrabts were regsitered as voters - in Arizona there were 70 000 such registrations thus far found and the study is not completed - it could be more than 100 000.

Thus far the courts in 20 states ruled that foreigners and non-ciizens are not allowed to vote.   In Minnesta there were 75 000 drivers licenses issued to new migrants - whch based on the licences were probably registered ss voters based on those licences,

In fact Biden in 2021 gavce an einstruction for States to enghance registration of non-US citizens to be on the voters roles - which instruction ends in Alabama as being illegitimate,  The House then passed a Bil that would require proper proof of Identification and citiizenship before votes can be accepted and vote security be improved, for which all Democrats - bar 5 voted against.   In the Senate Schumer refused o table the Bill and Bidn stat he would not sign the Bill into law.

The Republicans thus far appointed 150 000 observers to make sure the laws Governing citizenship in respect of voting is not totally underdrmined by the Democrats.   One wonder how many of the ove 8 million illegal migrants that entered the USA sice 2021 have already been registerd as voters by the Democrats.   Probably virtually all of them.

This is going to end up n the Spreme Court soon and it s likely that before the selection all voter registration of non-US Citizens are removed from the voters roles and not allowed to vote.   and States must removed al illegals and non-citizens be removed from the voter rolls.

No wonder Biden and the Demcorats are so happy to proclaim the Democrats will win the upcoming elections.  It is an unholy mess they have created and they are certain it would succeed.    The fact is that the media are keeping quiet about the issue is clearly part of the scheme that will destroy Democracy in the USA and turned the country into a virtual one-party country. 

If you need votes just import  millions of those through the Open Brder Policy and that will do the trick.   They are sure the Demcrats are gong to win the election  whiie by majority of 45% of the voters agree that te country is on the wrong track at present.   The  question remains that if by such a large majority of the votes agree with that point of view - how can they vote for a Party that cause them to be on that wrong track.   It just does not make sense at all if 68% of the voters say the country is on the wrong track will vote against their conviction for the Democrats?


    


    

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Aug 2024, 19:20
#2
13 Aug 2024, 19:20#2

Drivel alert!

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
14 Aug 2024, 00:34
#3
14 Aug 2024, 00:34#3

Shitory mumbo jumbo.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
14 Aug 2024, 01:11
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14 Aug 2024, 01:11#4

ouMaaik your wholehearted support for Putin's fascist Russian dictatorship surely means that you'd be very happy if the US follows their lead & becomes a one party state as well.

Ek wiet dat jy wiet wat watte reg is .

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Aug 2024, 03:22
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14 Aug 2024, 03:22#5

 What a lot total shit from the normal members.   So 20 court cases means nothing - so a Bill passed n the House despite opposd by the Democrats means nothing - so in the court case the fact is that in Arizona 70 000 illegal migrants found on the voters roll means nothing - so the 75 000 drivers licnces issued to migrants to enable them to vote means nothing.   

What a load of BS from BB - he is the most brainwashed idiot ever,    As for Mozart - he believes nothing wrong is done by the Democras based on the fact that the WSJ and New York times is not reporting anything about it.   Wat an  idiot.       .   

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
14 Aug 2024, 04:16
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14 Aug 2024, 04:16#6

N ever answers the question. Pity.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
14 Aug 2024, 06:47
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14 Aug 2024, 06:47#7

"ouMaaik your wholehearted support for Putin's fascist Russian dictatorship surely means that you'd be very happy if the US follows their lead & becomes a one party state as well."

Do you really think there's a chance of that happening if Trump gets elected again?...

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
14 Aug 2024, 08:18
#8
14 Aug 2024, 08:18#8

Of course not ................. with their convoluted political system, look how the effing Goppies (btw. that's goppie with an Afrikaans pronunciation) last year effectively blocked vital aid to Ukraine despite the wishes of the Democratic gummint.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
14 Aug 2024, 08:27
#9
14 Aug 2024, 08:27#9

The GOP stopped being when Trump came along, it's been obvious to everyone that it's his way or the highway. Ted Cruz, Lindsay Graham and the rest are disgusting suck-ups.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
14 Aug 2024, 09:56
#10
14 Aug 2024, 09:56#10
Hopefully the Republicans led by the NeverTrumpBrigade & learning from yet another defeat at the polls, bid a hasty farewell to CultTrump/Maga & rebuild their brand.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
14 Aug 2024, 10:02
#11
14 Aug 2024, 10:02#11

They wanna  collectively go on their knees begging for him to win, they're stuffed now, buggered if I know what they'll be if he loses.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Aug 2024, 10:42
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14 Aug 2024, 10:42#12

no Denny

I believe in Democacy and honest government      In the lst 4 years a level of incompetence and corruption has reche unlimited levels in the USA  and the degree of world stability has started to disintegrate and that is why a continuatio by a  far-leftist is not going to help anybody all over the world.  

The world needs ;eaders - not weakligs like Biden and Harris that tried to bribe countries to not contravne undings - like Biden tried to do in the case of Iran and then do nothing  to prevcet misadvenures,   THey are still invovled in proxy wars  in te ME and is going to attak Israel  well.   

They see thee USA as a real target and the conduct f he USA Government is a clear indicaion that China will soon follow the example of Iran and conquest South Korea and Taiwan - forcig Japan to become a BRICS country - as well as other countries like Indonesia, Japan, Turkey, igeria  and Mexico to follow others to become members of BRICS - largely made up of 50% of the wrld population.with growing  economes - while the USA and EU countries is suffering  from poor governance and  weak govenments.

The act is that the US Government and most of the leftwing countries in Eurpe are in disarray at present.   THe n UK Goverment is a typical example of what is going on in Europe..   The list is getting longer every election in Europe.

       .    .             

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
14 Aug 2024, 11:27
#13
14 Aug 2024, 11:27#13

What are you talkin about? I mean where do you get this nonsense from?

Don't respond......please don't, no-one needs a duplicate of a shitory.

tx

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Aug 2024, 14:51
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14 Aug 2024, 14:51#14

I got the info from a variety of sources - one promnent one being  video recorcing of Congress decisions - thee is court records on decisions -and rarely from news reports on Fox News and from other emdia like CNN, Al Jazeera.   Newpaper articles are actually the most unreliable source to get true and proven info from.       

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Aug 2024, 14:51
#15
14 Aug 2024, 14:51#15

I got the info from a variety of sources - one promnent one being  video recorcing of Congress decisions - thee is court records on decisions -and rarely from news reports on Fox News and from other emdia like CNN, Al Jazeera.   Newpaper articles are actually the most unreliable source to get true and proven info from.       

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Aug 2024, 14:51
#16
14 Aug 2024, 14:51#16

I got the info from a variety of sources - one promnent one being  video recorcing of Congress decisions - thee is court records on decisions -and rarely from news reports on Fox News and from other emdia like CNN, Al Jazeera.   Newpaper articles are actually the most unreliable source to get true and proven info from.       

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Aug 2024, 16:22
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14 Aug 2024, 16:22#17

There you go Denny…..you ask for none and you get three. It’s almost biblical, a sort of loaves and fishes thing.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
14 Aug 2024, 17:37
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14 Aug 2024, 17:37#18

I didn't get my hopes up.

Do you know of anyone who is equally as pigheaded, forceful and entitled ????

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Aug 2024, 18:51
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14 Aug 2024, 18:51#19

One very confused old Toppie.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Aug 2024, 20:34
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14 Aug 2024, 20:34#20

I am definitely not coonfused about issues and what I said I have proven in he past by posting videos on site,    I am very clear on issues from a  factual point of view.   I distrust newspaper reporting,   For instance  Aljazeera and e Hindu Times are much better and clearer on the Ukraine War news than for istance CNN and  Fox News.

The one thing I found really funny is that Harris deliver the sane speech repeatedly at DP rallies and the new one - that people get paid to smear Trump and Vance on the inmternet $1 500 for each contribbution theymade on Tiktok and internet plaatfirms and that people  get paid $15 dollar per hour to attend rallies of the DP,    Those facts have been proved by people admitting what they are doing for payment.     This is not funded by the DNC - but a dark money supporter of the DP,    The third really good joke is the comments of ABC, NBC, MSNBC and C NN use exactly the same wording in their reports - indicatinmg they had scripturesd instructions  what words are to be used to deal with the political reporting.

By using a variety of sources I know perfectly well the difference betwen BS propaganda and real and factual news.                       

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
15 Aug 2024, 00:02
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15 Aug 2024, 00:02#21

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Aug 2024, 05:10
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15 Aug 2024, 05:10#22

Nice demostation of Democratir Party in the USA - 2024.   They are controlled by the billionairs and acted like a dictatorship already.   

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Aug 2024, 05:10
#23
15 Aug 2024, 05:10#23

Duplicate

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
15 Aug 2024, 10:05
#24
15 Aug 2024, 10:05#24

I agree, you're not confused instead I am definitely coonfused about issues

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Aug 2024, 14:20
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15 Aug 2024, 14:20#25

Thos whom the gods wish to destroy theey drive mad,   So keepi upBB and co - you ill perhaps live long aenough to exppeiemce the results of things you are now spouting.   I may live for anther 3 to 4 years and may not see the first signs off dstruction.  .  

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
15 Aug 2024, 15:02
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15 Aug 2024, 15:02#26

There are some serious concerns that Trump is not heeding any advice from his close allies and associates, and that he wants to forge his own way forward, in typical Trump fashion.... but it seems this could cost him the election.

Some are saying that the attempted assassination has badly affected him mentally.... which I can only imagine, it would, with a lot of people.

I am not really bothered if Trump gets another term or not, but whatever does happen, you cannot possibly really believe that Kamala Harris is the next best alternative for the future of the USA for the next 4 years .....

How it comes down to this choice.... out of over 300 million people, is just beyond ridiculous.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 Aug 2024, 15:14
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15 Aug 2024, 15:14#27

Exactly…..you wouldn’t want Kamala Harris to be mayor of Chicago, let alone the leader of the Free World. But Trump became unacceptable with his Jan 6 behaviour. And now he seems to be making mistake after mistake…this is a man in decline if not quite the basket case that Biden is.

If the Republicans had nominated Nikki Haley they would have had a candidate who is smarter and takes away Kamala’s advantages as a woman and a minority. She would also not be associated with the perceived failures of the Biden administration and the cult like attributes of the Trump movement.

Huge opportunity lost, now we are left with this  impossible choice.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Aug 2024, 16:36
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15 Aug 2024, 16:36#28

Mozart

Go and read the House report on the January 6 incident and then repeat the B S spreading in your normal style.   


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 Aug 2024, 18:39
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15 Aug 2024, 18:39#29

Here are a few excerpts from the House Committee report:

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Trump’s decision to declare victory falsely on election night and, unlawfully, to call for the vote counting to stop, was not a spontaneous decision. It was premeditated. The Committee has assembled a range of evidence of President Trump’s preplanning for a false declaration of victory. This includes multiple written communications on October 31 and November 3, 2020, to the White House by Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.42 This evidence demonstrates that Fitton was in direct contact with President Trump and understood that President Trump would falsely declare victory on election night and call for vote counting to stop. The evidence also includes an audio recording of President Trump’s advisor Steve Bannon, who said this on October 31, 2020, to a group of his associates from China:

And what Trump’s gonna do is just declare victory, right? He’s gonna declare victory. But that doesn’t mean he’s a winner. He’s just gonna say he’s a winner . . . The Democrats—more of our people vote early that count. Theirs vote in mail. And so they’re gonna have a natural disadvantage, and Trump’s going to take advantage of it—that’s our strategy. He’s gonna declare himself a winner. So when you wake up Wednesday morning, it’s going to be a firestorm . . . . Also, if Trump, if Trump is losing, by 10 or 11 o’clock at night, it’s going to be even crazier. No, because he’s gonna sit right there and say “They stole it. I’m directing the Attorney General to shut down all ballot places in all 50 states.” It’s going to be, no, he’s not going out easy. If Trump—if Biden’s winning, Trump is going to do some crazy shit.4

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By the time President Trump was preparing to give his speech, he and his advisors knew enough to cancel the rally. And he certainly knew enough to cancel any plans for a march to the Capitol. According to testimony obtained by the Select Committee, President Trump knew that elements of the crowd were armed, and had prohibited items, and that many thousands would not pass through the magnetometers for that reason. Testimony indicates that the President had received an earlier security briefing, and testimony indicates that the Secret Service mentioned the prohibited items again as they drove President Trump to the Ellipse.

… __

Trump used the word “peacefully,” written by speech writers, one time. But he delivered many other scripted and unscripted comments that conveyed a very different message:

Because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated. . . .

And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore. . . .437

Trump also was not the only rally speaker to do these things. Giuliani, for instance, also said, “Let’s have trial by combat.”?438 Likewise, Eastman used his two minutes on the Ellipse stage to make a claim already known to be false—that corrupted voted machines stole the election.439

The best indication of the impact of President Trump’s words, both during the Ellipse speech and beforehand, are the comments from those supporters who attended the Ellipse rally and their conduct immediately thereafter. Videoclips show several of the attendees on their way to the Capitol or shortly after they arrived:

I’m telling you what, I’m hearing that Pence — hearing the Pence just caved. No. Is that true? I didn’t hear it. I’m hear — I’m hearing reports that Pence caved. No way. I’m telling you, if Pence caved, we’re going to drag motherfuckers through the streets. You fucking politicians are going to get fucking drug through the streets.440

Yes. I guess the hope is that there’s such a show of force here that Pence will decide do the right thing, according to Trump.441

Pence voted against Trump. [Interviewer: Ok. And that’s when all this started?] Yup. That’s when we marched on the Capitol.442

We just heard that Mike Pence is not going to reject any fraudulent electoral votes. [Other speaker: Boo. You’re a traitor! Boo!] That’s right. You’ve heard it here first. Mike Pence has betrayed the United States of America. [Other speaker: Boo! Fuck you, Mike Pence!] Mike Pence has betrayed this President and he has betrayed the people of the United States and we will never, ever forget. [Cheers]443

[Q] What percentage of the crowd is going to the Capitol? [A] [Oath Keeper Jessica Watkins]: One hundred percent. It has, it has spread like wildfire that Pence has betrayed us, and everybody’s marching on the Capitol. All million of us. It’s insane.444

………


Unaffiliated Americans enraged by President Trump’s lies rioted as well. The January 6th, attack has often been described as a riot—and that is partly true. Some of those who trespassed on the Capitol’s grounds or entered the building did not plan to do so beforehand. But it is also true that extremists, conspiracy theorists and others were prepared to fight. That is an insurrection. They answered President Trump’s call to action. Some, like the Proud Boys, deliberately harnessed the mob’s anger to overrun the Capitol.

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At any moment in the afternoon, it would have been easy for President Trump to get before cameras and call off the attack. The White House Press Briefing Room is just down the hallway from the Oval Office, past the Cabinet Room and around the corner to the right. It would have taken less than 60 seconds for the President to get there.264 The space, moreover, is outfitted with cameras that are constantly “hot,” meaning that they are on and ready to go live at a moment’s notice.265 The White House press corps is also situated in the West Wing, right by the briefing room.266 The whole affair could have been assembled in minutes.267


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Former President Trump’s eagerness to engage the U.S. military to play a visible role in addressing domestic unrest during the late spring and summer of 2020 does appear to have prompted senior military leadership to take precautions, in preparing for the joint session, against the possibility that the DC Guard might be ordered to deploy for an improper purpose. Those precautions seem to have been prudential as much as legal in nature.

What that entailed in the unprecedented circumstances of the January 6th attack on the Capitol is, however, harder to accept: a 3 hour and 19 minute lag-time in making a relatively small, but riot-trained and highly capable military unit available to conduct one of its statutory support missions.

While the delay seems unnecessary and unacceptable, it was the byproduct of military processes, institutional caution, and a revised deployment approval process. We have no evidence that the delay was intentional. Likewise, it appears that none of the individuals involved understood what President Trump planned for January 6th, and how he would behave during the violence. Imperfect inter-government and intra-military communications as the January 6th rally morphed, with President Trump’s active encouragement, into a full-blown riot at the Capitol also help explain the time it took to deploy Guard troops to the Capitol after their assistance there was requested and approved. Post-hoc evaluation of real-time communications during an unprecedented and evolving crisis and limited tactical intelligence, nevertheless, carries the risk of a precision that was unrealistic at the time. It is also clear from testimony provided to the Select Committee that DoD and DC National Guard leaders have differing perspectives that are not reconcilable regarding the timing of deployment authorization.


…..

In the weeks after the 2020 election leading up to January 6, 2021, President Trump’s Campaign and his allies sent his supporters a barrage of emails and text messages pushing lies about a stolen election and asking for contributions to challenge the outcome of the election. In reality, the funds raised went primarily towards paying down the Trump Campaign’s outstanding 2020 debt, financing President Trump’s newly created Save America PAC, and raising money for the RNC.

Overall, only a small amount of the contributions ever went to President Trump’s recount account or were otherwise obviously used in connection with post-election recounts or litigation. As President Trump used the Big Lie as a weapon to attack the legitimacy of the 2020 election, his Campaign used that same Big Lie to raise millions of dollars based on false claims and unkept promises. 

Not only did President Trump lie to his supporters about the election, but he also ripped them off.


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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
16 Aug 2024, 07:45
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16 Aug 2024, 07:45#30

Thanks Moz

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Aug 2024, 14:18
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16 Aug 2024, 14:18#31

Welcome Blob….it’s a huge document and it’s hardly a scientific summary, but it gives some sense of what was concluded.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Aug 2024, 16:29
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16 Aug 2024, 16:29#32

Mozart

Have you heard the speech f Trump at the emetig utside of  Washington at all?  No you have not because you repeat exactly the BS about insurrection in the media.   This dricvel ws thrwn out by the Supreme Court and the fact is the media lied ab out what happened inside the C aitol anyway based on the security cameras.   

Haley has no support base tht would win the election fr the Republicans.  the only reasn why she was promoted by the emdia was tht se would be conmtroled by the same people who conmtrolled Biden.   She has announed her support for Trump and you continue finding BS about Trump.

You talk abou the Mayor of  Chicago - but  who caused the mess Chicago became??  The sme people and organizations that is support Harris annd Walz at this stage,   You ae wecome to join them - your phony support will not be missed.       

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Aug 2024, 16:44
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16 Aug 2024, 16:44#33

My phony support won’t be missed? I see, except unlike you I am solicited by politicians all the time and I can actually vote.

But of course this is another diversion…you told me to read the House Report. So unlike you I did and provided extracts which you were not anticipating, so you go off on another fishing expedition..

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