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The USA leads the Liar Competition on Ukraine

Started by clevermike4 REPLIES391 VIEWS· 29 Aug 2022, 12:35
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Aug 2022, 12:35
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29 Aug 2022, 12:35#1

The Media is supported the arrest of Tucker Catlson and Tulsi Gabbard for supporting Putin.   The issue is dealt with by Billy Dore dealt with in the following video 


 “The View” Calls For ARREST Of Tulsi & Tucker Carlson Over Ukraine - Bing video 


It started off  with a lie of the USA exposed in Senate under  oath as a lie.   The Russians claimed there were 25 labs funded by the USA on dangerous  pathogens - a heritage of the Faucci debacle in Wuhan,   The USA denied that the labs existed - but then a senior official under oath declared that there are indeed labs in Ukraine and that the USA is worried about the safety of the labs.     


When that claim came out - the myth was used that the USA have no US funded labs in Ukraine and they are helping Ukraine to dismantle the labs.    They did nothing of the kind and the labs are continuing with dangerous research funded by the us government and when people like Gabbard talk the truth - they must be silenced because stating the may  truth is regarded as a crime.    ,                          


 

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
29 Aug 2022, 13:10
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29 Aug 2022, 13:10#2
QAnon garbage.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Aug 2022, 16:28
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29 Aug 2022, 16:28#3

Stav

Dore is a liberal and very much so -  Gabbard is a member of the Democratic Party (unlike the crooks and socialist majority in the House  and Administration she is a centrist and unfortnately for the Democrats she is not a liar like them  - so where did you get the Qanon Garbage from? 

Furthermore   the presence of labs in Ukraine has been admitted  under oath in Senate  and the fact is the labs are funded from the  USA -ie  from Defense Force funds.  Why the hell is  the US Government worried about  if the Russians found what the USA has been up to in Ukraine as to illegal research?   

You must be really brainwashed if the truth does not hurt you.      .    

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
29 Aug 2022, 17:09
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29 Aug 2022, 17:09#4

Stav

Dore is a liberal and very much so

And? Being a liberal doesn't mean he's right.
Gabbard is a member of the Democratic Party (unlike the crooks and socialist majority in the House  and Administration she is a centrist and unfortnately for the Democrats she is not a liar like them

Gabbard said she was misunderstood. She said the US provides funding to labs in the Ukraine and they are conducting research into dangerous pathogens she did not say the US was using the labs to  develop weapons but the research was for the public good (i.e to develop vaccines). She was also concerned that these labs being in a war zone might result in any accident in which these dangerous pathogens could escape.

- so where did you get the Qanon Garbage from?

The Russian's themselves have for years made accusations that the US had secret bio labs in Eastern Europe developing biological weapons, but they themselves where not pushing this angle when they launched the invasion of  Ukraine.

After the war began, the biolabs myth was propagated by QAnon before it filtered out  out to other far right and far left organizations, after seeing it gain traction the Russian's then seized on the story and their promotion of it ending creating a feedback loop between themselves and the conspiracy theorists.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/mar/18/ukrainian-bioweapons-labs-qanon-fox-news

Let me guess though, fake news?

Furthermore   the presence of labs in Ukraine has been admitted  under oath in Senate  and the fact is the labs are funded from the  USA -ie  from Defense Force funds. 

Those are not American labs, they are Ukrainian own and run and primarily funded by Ukraine. The American's do work with the Ukraiiane and fund research on biological pathogens, so they can develop vaccines. This is also done in many other countries as part of the  U.S. Department of Defences Biological Threat Reduction Program.

You do understand the logic of why you would help fund other countries research into dangerous biological agents, don't you. Particularly after Covid, a viral outbreak in one country can quickly became the problem of many if not all other countries.

Why the hell is  the US Government worried about  if the Russians found what the USA has been up to in Ukraine as to illegal research?  

Their not, its purely a disinformation campaign that completely misrepresents whats actually happening and the majority of the US and Western countries populations understand that. Only gullible people like yourself fall for it.



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Aug 2022, 07:15
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30 Aug 2022, 07:15#5

Stav

Your argument is obtuswe and very misleading.   Gabbard said the USA are funding laboratories in Ukraine doing dangerous research that could have nasty consequnces in Ukraine - developing anything like that is indeed troublesome .   The rest about weapons is thinks you dreamed up.     That type of research is banned in most countries in the world - but the USA is determined to do such reasearch and the result could be catastrophic.

Let me put it bluntly - Qanon has f#c all to do with this issue nothing to do woth the issue - you ae totally deluded  and incredibly biased if you come up with BS like tat.     Last I heard Qanon is a organization consisting of  5 members operating a website - and the normal scare crow of the Liberals and idiots trying to justify the unjustifiable.   I am not stupid enouh to get involved with that kind of BS.

So according to you Fucci did not fund the research at the Wuhan Lab through handouts and he fact is it does not strike you as dangerous to fund that kingd o research done in dictatorships like China - so what would stop them from using the same research fnding in Ukraine.   

The only brainwashed people who blame everything on fake news  getting  all their propaganda from the fake news media are people like you.    Unfortunately the fact is the leftist media are flourishing on fake news and we have seen that for years now.   Your only sources are fake news agencies in the real sense of the word( The Guardian  (can there b anything worse than that LMAO) - and consists of press  leaks and propaganda.  They were totally discredited  with the fake news about Russian collusion based on lies concocted by the Democrats - you for earlier remarks a seem to believe  that the Democrats can lie and cheat - but that is their preserve and ight t do so.   .   Bad news for you.     By the way the Guardian story is quite  typical BS brainwashed people like you swallowed hook line and sinker and    thrive on.    However, you ignore under oath testimony in the  US Senate and come up with a Guardian fake news article .   LMAO  

Labs operating an funded by the poorest country in Europe where corruption is endemic - LMAO.    The Senate testimony  clearly  US Defense Fore funding are involved in  the construction of a new lab   in Odessa  - the rest were labs the US was supposed to eliminate according to the fake news and after 30 years they are still operated with funding from the USA - the USA has done nothing about closing of Labs said to say.   Why should the USA pay for the construction of a lab and nt operating of it.   LMAO.   

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