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The vile comparisons of hitler to trump condemned by

Started by Beeno17 REPLIES422 VIEWS· 18 Mar 2016, 21:30
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
18 Mar 2016, 21:30
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18 Mar 2016, 21:30#1
the Jewish community

The disgusting, vile comparisons of Donald Trump to Hitler are an affront to decency, the Jewish community, the victims of the Holocaust and the man. The Washington Post published a column by a Harvard Professor comparing him to Hitler. The NY Daily Newshad the words “Trump is Hitler” on its front cover. TheHuffington Post and The Daily Telegraph have also compared Trump to Hitler. The latest episode of Saturday Night Live compared Trump’s rise to power to “Germany in the 1930s.” High-profile personalities such as Bill Maher, Louis CK, Former Mexican President Vicente Fox and even Glenn Beck have all made comparisons between Trump and Hitler.

Have we all gone mad? Are we going to seriously trivialize the murder of six million Jews by saying that a Republican presidential candidate is running for office in order to perpetrate genocide? (The donor elites are desparate to mantain their grip on the country as they will lose huge amounts of money otherwise!)

Is there any political pundit in America with half a brain who actually believes that?

(Well here we had the bigot ab ass making a complete twit of himself smearing Trump like this)

Love him or hate him, the fact is Donald Trump has never murdered anyone in his life. He has never incited violence against any group. He has never called for people to be rounded up in ghettos. Most important, Trump has a daughter who converted to, and is observant of, orthodox Judaism. Being friendly with Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, I was aware of the process of Ivanka Trump becoming Jewish. At any point during the multi-year journey her father could easily have said to her, “Are you kidding me? Seriously? You’re from a prominent family. You’re rich. You’re famous. Get this becoming Jewish idea far out of your head.”

But not only did Trump not do so, he did precisely the opposite. He has, on many occasions, spoken very proudly of his daughter embracing the Jewish faith. Donald Trump has Orthodox Jewish grandchildren. (By now ou ab ass is glowing red in the dark!)

Then there is his son-in-law, Jared himself, who stems from one of the most prominent and philanthropic New York/New Jersey Jewish families. Jared and the Kushners are among the staunchest supporters and defenders of Israel. They are renowned for the innumerable Jewish causes they support. Jared stems from a family of survivors. I can only imagine how sick they must be in seeing these disgusting comparisons of the patriarch of their daughter-in-law’s family to the most evil man that ever lived.

Furthermore, those who use the word “Hitler” to describe Trump don’t realize the injustice they are doing to those who suffered at the hands of the Nazis. The fact is that there are certain powerful words that we possess in the English language that are reserved for the worst forms of evil imaginable. The word “genocide” is one such word. When Israel is attacked with 14,000 rockets from Hamas, and must defend its citizens by attacking Hamas rocket-launchers, those Israel-haters who fraudulently say that Israel is committing a “genocide” are doing a huge injustice to the victims of real genocides. That word must only be applied to true atrocities, and it loses all meaning when misapplied to wars that are moral and just.

The word “Hitler” is another such word that must never be misused. Comparing Trump to Hitler trivializes world war, genocide and the one-and-a-half million children gassed by the monster, and is a vulgar attack on the good citizens of the United States who are being accused of getting behind a murderer. Try telling someone who lived through the concentration camps and lost their entire family to the Nazis that Trump is Hitler. When these words are misapplied, we all suffer for it.

Trump is a controversial candidate, but no one denies that whatever else we may disagree with him on, he’s a staunch supporter of Israel. Americans are sick of the decades of poll-driven drivel offered up to us by so many fake politicians who lack any kind of conviction and simply want to hold office. So it’s easy to see why Trump’s straight talk of actually saying what he’s thinking has taken hold. I agree with him on the need for candor in American politics and, involved as I am with some political figures, I can see why America is hungering for someone to simply tell it like it is.

But there are also obvious areas of disagreement. I reject Trump’s call for collective punishment for the families of terrorists. If a US citizen goes and joins ISIS, does that mean that his family here in the US would need to be punished as well? The Bible is clear that “a son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, and a father shall not bear the iniquity of the son (Ezekiel 18:20).” The real Trump-haters ought to remember that Roosevelt, Churchill and Truman all engaged in collective punishment by bombing entire cities and then nuking two. And even President Obama has ordered drone strikes that no doubt have killed terrorists’ dependents, even if it was not intentional. And perhaps if we did engage in collective punishment, then we’d end the terror threat much more rapidly. And still it is morally unacceptable, as it undermines our values and the all-important idea of personal accountability.

I also disagree with Trump on the temporary ban on Muslims from the United States, because there should never be any religious litmus tests in America. I have said so publicly numerous times. Perhaps if he would have called for temporary bans on citizens traveling from countries heavily infiltrated by ISIS and other radical Islamic ideologies he would not have elicited the same reaction. But to go from there to comparing Trump to Hitler is utterly abhorrent.

As an aside, it should also be noted how absurd it is when people use this presidential election as proof that our America is Islamophobic. I mean, really? Five thousand Americans died in Iraq liberating Muslims being slaughtered by Saddam. A further 5,000 died fighting the monsters of the Taliban to liberate another Muslim nation. And the US taxpayer footed the bill for two trillion dollars. Tell me another nation that magnificent, charitable, and dedicated to Muslim lives? What Islamophobia?

Trump’s outspokenness is in large part a reaction to the anger that much of the country feels over the perceived lack of leadership and strength exhibited by the United States, and he knows that throwing political correctness to the wind and refusing to mince words will very likely be a path to the White House in today’s political climate. And while I can understand why political opponents do not want Trump as president — just as I understand why political partisans likewise don’t want Clinton, Cruz, Rubio or Sanders — that still does not give them the right to dishonor the memory of the millions who lost their lives in the Holocaust, or take a man with whom they may have sharp disagreements and make him into a monster.

Other articles say this violent hate speech may lead to assination attempts on Trump. Its wha t they are probably hoping.

HOW LOW DO YOU GO IS THE QUESTION.

The Washington Post calls Rabbi Shmuley “the most famous rabbi in America.” He is founder of The World Values Network and is the international best-selling author of 30 books. Next month he will publish The Israel Warrior: Winning Israel’s Battles in the Marketplace of Ideas. Follow him on Twitter @RabbiShmuley.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
19 Mar 2016, 11:28
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19 Mar 2016, 11:28#2
Heil Drumpf!


Ve vill make zees country great again!!!
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Mar 2016, 09:00
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20 Mar 2016, 09:00#3
 Have we gone mad the writer asks. Well if he had the extreme misfortune to be acquainted with the hatter rooitwit he surely wouldnt ask such a question!!!! hahahahahaha
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
20 Mar 2016, 13:08
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20 Mar 2016, 13:08#4
Baboon-ou, you often remind me of a Woody Allen character called Leonard Zelig and it's no coincidence that both you and Zelig are so attracted to Nazi ideals.
Are you saying you don't see the similarities between the rise of Hitler and the rise of Drumpf?
Listen . . .
They both came to prominence during a time of global right wing nationalistic fervour. 
They both advocate a superior race or people.
They both believe in nationalising the economy.
They both believe in a final solution which involves genocide against people of a different religion.
They both have hair malfunctions.
Heil Drumpf!
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Mar 2016, 17:34
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20 Mar 2016, 17:34#5
 Rooinek
As you are aware I m no Trump supporter - but I do try and keep it straight and narrow insofar as the following statement is concerned:-
*They both believe in nationalizing the economy".
Hitler was a socialist - same as the Communists and most of the Labour-orientating parties are.  As such he is part of a syndrome that believes in central control of the economy.   To that end they spend money they do not have and that is the start of terminal illness of the economy.   For them the key is big Government and centralization of control.
I think that Trump and Cruz - with attacks on the Establishment actually oppose the socialist tendencies of both the Republicans and the Democrats and their reliance on the Wall Street Conglomerate to support the politicians from both parties with funds and then control them afterwards.
That is the extreme form of socialism at work and a real centralization of power with nobody capable of calling them to order.   There are many comparisons with the hold of the Financial sector in the USA and the Guptas in SA.   That is why there is a practical revolt against the status quo in the USA.   It is not only noticeable in the RP - the battler is in evidence in the rank-and-file Democrats as well - hence the support of a substantial proportion of the Democratic Party as well.  
I think the dislike of the Political and Financial Establishments in Washington and New York has reached a major proportion of the population as is evident from the primary elections at present on the go and a substantial majority of the voters in fact support not only Trump, but also Cruz and Sanders,       
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
20 Mar 2016, 18:00
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20 Mar 2016, 18:00#6
 Rooi, you got the first and last one's correct. That's 2 from 6....33.33%. That's a pass in the New South African School System , but not really good enough.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Mar 2016, 19:27
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20 Mar 2016, 19:27#7
 Reading your post Draad I was surprised to say the least, I eman ou rooitwit achievibg a 33% mark!!!!On closer inspection I see that a Nil reslult is more accuarate and more in line with histotical trends. 
The main straem media call these groups far right to stigmatise them for the global masters who have so much t lose should these parties prevail. Its part of a smear campaign they conduct. Fortunately the publeic si seeing through them.
As t otrumps hair for a 69 year old he looks in trtemendous shape. The guy only sleeps 4 hours a day and is a very hard worker - exactly what the USA needs after that hacker obummer whose golf, rotten as it is, is far better than his disgusting performance as president. What a divisive president he has been and hence the huge strides made by anti establishment candidates including wee bernie the commie of the demoes.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Mar 2016, 19:29
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20 Mar 2016, 19:29#8
 ou rooitiwts other commetns are not worthy of a reply. Hu ge egg lands again on rooitwit the egg magnet!
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