This needs it's own thread!
The post below is pasted from the How many planets in the Milky Way thread.
This needs it's own thread!
The post below is pasted from the How many planets in the Milky Way thread.
This is my attempt at summarizing a timeline of Klown's world view:
Year 0 - ???
Two other important pastes from the previous thread that provide some persepective, here's the original "dumbed down" version from which I made the initial summary timeline:
Apr 02, 2019, 17:49
No Redneck ... how is it possible not to understand something so simple?
Let me dumb it down a bit for you.
1. Planet is created in the year zero.
2. Life of a sort is placed on the planet.
3. All life on the planet is destroyed after a time ... by whatever means .. in this case, a flood (the flood of Lucifer) ... rendering the planet lifeless. Niks, nada, fokol life on earth.
4. 10 million years pass by. The planet remains under water ... (the deep) ... void of any life.
5. 15 million years on ... the planet is brought back to life ... it is not recreated ... it already exits. The water is pushed back ... dry ground is forced to the surface (land) ... night and day ... animal and plant life is returned to inhabit the land, the oceans and lakes, rivers etc ... man is made in His image ... and voila, we have a Redneck asking stupid questions ... pretending to be doff ... totally confused as his mates keep digging up remnants of the previous inhabitants.
6000 years later a theory is brought out to please the unbelievers ... Redneck jumps at the chance. He is now armed with apes, mutations, science, carbon dating and of course an obtuse nature ... the happy chap sets off to tell everyone ... exposing his ignorance.
Approximately 6000 years ago the earth as we know it was restored ... overhauled ... sprayed with a fresh coat of paint ... revamped ... made new ... approximately 2000 years later the flood of Noah took place, wiping out life ... approximately 2000 years after that, Christ was born ... the Christian believes that we are living in the last days ... that 2000 years have passed on since Christ's birth ... that the second coming of the Messiah is at hand.
We await 7 years of tribulation ... and a thousand years of Lucifer's imprisonment ... and then judgement falls.
Redneck and his unbelieving horde await nothing ... or maybe they'll be mutated into a moth ... or evolve into some new species of ape never seen before ... who the fuck knows.
And then this subsequent update . . .
Apr 03, 2019, 08:35
My dear SharkShit ... you no doubt have an interest in this subject ... can't say I blame you ... I can't think of anything that fascinates me more. I have given a lot of time to it.
The problem is that you don't even know the simple basics of the Bible. When the Christ was born ... when He died ... how He died ... why He died ... why we celebrate Him as Lord ... these simple things are beyond you ... and yet here you are, debating with us.
I am NOT referring to the flood of Noah, you Dimwitted retard ... and I'm not blaming Lucifer for that flood either. Can't you read? Things have happened on this planet long before we showed up. Dramatic things. Wars. Power struggles. Betrayal. Treason.
I suppose you think that Lucifer and his rebellious subordinates (angels) were kicked out of Heaven during the time of Adam and Eve, right?
LOL!!!!!!!
Are you aware of the war that took place between God, Michael and Lucifer and the role Jesus Christ played in it?
Are you aware that Jesus Christ was with the Father long before He was born in Bethlehem? Long before the existence of the universe. That He was actually sent here on a mission ... and the opposition he faced from an age old enemy?
How is it possible that you know so little? Even an uninterested school kid would have picked up more in primary school than you have.
The time frame of 10 million years and 15 million years that I used was a simple example to dumb it down for your like minded idiot, Redneck.
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaaaa!!! Wow!!!!!! You have got to be kidding me.
No, SharkShit ... the lizards and plant life were not wiped out because of their sin. How stupid are you? Ever heard of collateral damage? Look it up.
There is more to this than you think. Much more. Do yourself a favour ... go read the Bible ... cover to cover ... see what it says ... you may discover something of great value ... something that may just prepare you for what lies beyond the grave.
Sharkbok, I'm hoping Klown will help us clear up some of the confusion and advise where things like the age old enemy, sinning lizards and Michael fit into the timeline.
Rooi
You've started this thread with the sole purpose of trying to embarrass somebody.
What's the point?
Everybody has a view which can be picked apart and pissed on.
As I said before, nobody is talking from a point of absolute truth.
All something like this does is prevent people from from sharing their thoughts in future.
Good luck with that.
I shan't have any part of it.
No Plum, you're wrong. I am genuinely interested in Klown's belief and if you're not interested then exercise your inalienable right to ignore this.
Not sure why you felt the need to tell us you won't take part in this thread instead of simply ignoring it but anyway . . .
PS Why would Klown be embarrassed by us wanting to know more about his beliefs? That's a bit patronising of you. Klown is quite capable of speaking for himself and I don't think he's embarrassed by his beliefs otherwise why did he tell us? Huh?
PPS As for starting a thread for the sole reason of embarrassing someone, what was your purpose for starting this thread, hmmm? Anyone smell any rank hypocrisy in the air?
Hells Angels ..................... hallelujah of halruffragababa bro.
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaaaa!!!
You guys are not well ... not well at all.
I've dumbed it down about as far as I can ... it didn't help. It seems we have to wait a little longer for your brain to evolve properly.
The best I can do is ask BeanDip for lessons in Moron ... and quite frankly I'm not sure that that would help anyway.
So ... it's very thoughtful of you to dedicate an entire thread to me, Redneck ... what a pal ... that's why I like you ... you are forever thinking of others.
I'm afraid though, it's a lost cause ... so just go with your big bang, evolution theory and be blissfully happy in your ignorance.
Oh and thanks Plum ... good of you to stand up for me.
Oh and no ... I'm definitely not embarrassed by my beliefs.
Why would I be?
I love the subject. I find it very interesting.
So many things over the years have been explained to this arch clown rooijackass but he doesn't even read anything that doesn't fit into his crazy warped world view. Nor does he address the arguments presented. The hatter is far, far gone. Reminds one of Karl Marx ranting on about the God he so hated.
He hasn't a clue spiritually or politically and has been shot down endless times but so thick is this raving nutjob he blunders on regardless. However the consequences for him couldn't be more serious. Very sad.
Why is there a need for a new thread?
Why is there a need to ridicule CC's beliefs?
Rooitwit how many times has one got to explain to you how moronic your thinking is. Look at the last big issue - you went on about Trump Russian collusion again and again. Huge EGG landed yet again. You get it all wrong almost all the time.
No sorry rooitwit not today not in the mood to spend hours correcting your monstrous stupidity. if you are desperate dig up all my many many posts on creation and actually read them.
Run along now!
Dense, if you don't like this thread then don't read it. It's really not that hard.
I'll start whatever thread I feel like starting in this section when I feel like it. Okay little chap?
I see there's a puddle of drool forming on the desk under your chin so I'll assume something has penetrated your immensely thick (and phenomenally ugly) head. Good . . . you can run along then. You're dismissed.
A bit touchy I notice Huh? And where did I say I didn't like the thread....Dunce?
If you can't answer the questions then say so you small minded little man. Nothings changed though, you'll go to any length to put someone down.
CC's input was as I understand it was just speculative or trying to fill in the gaps of unanswerable mysteries and vacuums...just trying to communicate with vacant, cynical and unbelieving views.
Scripture was never intended to be a science book...it was a record of the Creator's inter action with mankind and the way we were made to respond...it was written by many people who were spiritually inspired and interacted with Him. Some of the ancient people were ordinary and simple herders, shepherds but some were kings, leaders, soldiers, Israelites, Jews, Greeks, and intellects like Paul of Taursus.
The amazing thing is that all these different scribes, separated by huge gaps in time and station were in complete harmony with the underlying message and prophesies of a coming Messiah. What a coincidence...lol.
If God wanted to teach us science first before He showed us His love...would that make sense?.
Imagine a text book written thousands of years ago explaining how He made an atom, a molecule, all the metals and non-metals, salts, and compounds, made the Earth and all living things and Milky Way. All in all impossible. It's too ridiculous.
We are finite, small, vulnerable and sinful. He is beyond our comprehension...He gave it to us simple and yet the puffed-up puny intelligent intel lect of man, still scratches his head and rejects because He cannot work it out.
You come to Him in faith, in trust, in total surrender of self and humility. You cannot see God with your physical eyes...whilst you are on the earth but you can sense Him and see His works, He does not have to explain Himself...He's given us enough, even sent His Son to redeem us from our sins and iniquities.
The sad/happy thing that's for sure we all will see Him one day.
Yes you cannot prove God like you want to or see or understand His mind...afterall He is God...look up what really God means.
CC was only saying there is far more we don't know and cannot know but what is only sufficient to know for man's salvation.
Saderfan...so according to you all Christians are foolish and dumb. A lot of great rugby men who are christians and committed as well as a lot of people in the forefront...so we are all clowns according to intelligent and wise Crusaderfan. And why should He reveal Himself specially for a hard heart that wants to disbelieve...this is arrogant nonsense.
"Beast" Tendai Mtawarira, Francois Pienaar, the late Ruben Kruger,Andre Venter, Henri Honibal,,Bakkies Botha, Patrick Lambie, Michael Jones, the late Jonah Lomu ...many
You said if God revealed Himself to you, you could/would believe...let me say I don't believe you.
18 For the message of the cross is foolishness [absurd and illogical] to those who are perishing and spiritually dead [because they reject it], but to us who are being saved [by God’s grace] it is [the manifestation of] the power of God. 19 For it is written and forever remains written,
“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise [the philosophy of the philosophers],
And the cleverness of the clever [who do not know Me] I will nullify.”
20 Where is the wise man (philosopher)? Where is the scribe (scholar)? Where is the debater (logician, orator) of this age? Has God not exposed the foolishness of this world’s wisdom? 21 For since the world through all its [earthly] wisdom failed to recognize God, God in His wisdom was well-pleased through the a]">[a]foolishness of the message preached [regarding salvation] to save those who believe [in Christ and welcome Him as Savior]. 22 For Jews demand signs (attesting miracles), and Greeks pursue [worldly] wisdom and philosophy, 23 but we preach Christ crucified, [a message which is] to Jews a stumbling block [that provokes their opposition], and to Gentiles foolishness [just utter nonsense], 24 but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks (Gentiles), Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 [This is] because the foolishness of God [is not foolishness at all and] is wiser than men [far beyond human comprehension], and the weakness of God is stronger than men [far beyond the limits of human effort].
That's good to know, Mozart.
CleanCut, ak a Dirty Mutt the lost sheep
In the parable of the Good Samaritan, it is explained that being a good person has nothing to do with religion. Beeno and Cleancutt/the lost sheep - the 2 best bible bashers just do not get it. No matter how much time you guys spend in Church, you are devoid of the basic morals that most other poster have
Lol Rooi
Two things guy...
1) Said you're trying to embarrass CC. I didn't say that he has anything to be embarrassed about. I'd say nice try, but it was, meh.
2) The thread you linked, cumon guy!?
I am quite touched that you went back to edit your initial response here though. In my little world it says that I got you thinking enough about it enough to feel that you needed to do John Lennon.
I think you like playing "bad cop". But I'm not sure it comes naturally. It seems like an adaptive behaviour.
Well I know you are older and so probably did your two years in brown and boots. Have to compensate for that. Can probably slice about 10% of the hard arse off the top to compensate for that.
Where does the rest come from though?
I'm trying to decide if it has its roots in family or work. Going for work, since if it were family then you'd be a bit more emotional in both delivery and frequency.
I differ from Moz in his sociopath assessment. A sociopath would be more sly. And that rules out you being the CEO of a company, unless you started it.
So what then?
I am still leaning towards corporate but not an apex predator type.
BUT...there is something else that is pushing me towards academia.
Close? A million miles off?