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Timothy Snyder: How Putin’s Lies Are Driving the War in Ukraine | The Foreign Affairs Interview

Started by bobbok...4 REPLIES400 VIEWS· 21 Apr 2023, 02:31
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
21 Apr 2023, 02:31
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21 Apr 2023, 02:31#1

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Apr 2023, 05:11
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21 Apr 2023, 05:11#2

Demcoracy has no fighting chance in Ukraine - a country without a constitution - banning opposition parties and arresting members of Parliament for having Russian as home language.   Bannng the major church in Ukraine - so try another angle.

The present Ukraine system  came into being in 2014 when the USA  engineered a coup in Ukraine and  ir v=became a hunting ground for corrupt US politicians - including Biden, Schumer, Pelosi and Schiff.    There was an effort to get Ukraine back as a DEMOCRATIC state in the MNinsk agreement of 2015 that would have returned Ukraine to being a democratic state - but that agreement was constantly undermined by the then Obama Administration and now by the Biden Administration and never implemented,   

The present situation is that Ukraine is a banana Republic with crooks in both the USA and Ukraine running by crooks making billions out of bribery and corruption engaged in a proxy war for the USA.   Biden in the end sabotaged the renewal of the Minsk agreement before the Russian Invasion by stating publicly that the War in Ukraine is aimed at removal of Putin as President of Russia - but also the breaking up Russia into 5 puppet states that would be open for looting of resources by American companies.

If the present War was indeed aimed at protection of a democracy in Ukraine I would support the Ukraine Government totally - but it has nothing to do with democracy and everything to do with turning Russia into a dependency of the USA - that is to attack democracy and destroy it like is happening  in the USA at present.   In five years time at present tendencies of attacking the US Constitution on a daily basis under the Biden regime there will be destruction of Democracy in that country as well.

If you believe this kind of BS you must really be beyond hope of ever being a person with an ability to analyze propaganda BS for what it really is.                


           

         

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
21 Apr 2023, 07:13
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21 Apr 2023, 07:13#3

Just another Mike post repeating the same lies, omitting the context and reasoning behind some Ukrainian act ions and pushing ridiculous conspiracy theories and then claims people who don't believe his rubbish are beyond hope.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Apr 2023, 07:59
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21 Apr 2023, 07:59#4

Stav

There is NO DEMOCRACY in Ukraine since 2014 and the fact that you repeat media and US Government lies on site does not change that statement.     


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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
21 Apr 2023, 08:15
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21 Apr 2023, 08:15#5

There is NO DEMOCRACY in Ukraine since 2014 and the fact that you repeat media and US Government lies on site does not change that statement.    

Mike you have no concept of what democracy is. I've challenged you numerous times to link to the sources or evidence to support any claim you make, you never do. All you do is regurgitate conspiracy theories and Russian propaganda.

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