SHsharkbok
Captain23,216 posts
SHsharkbokCaptain23,216 posts
29 Dec 2019, 16:18#5
So your silly Bible tells you Draad. Like all other religions, it states that it is the right way, and all other religions or ideologies are wrong. Intolerant dogma stuff that sounds like Hitler's master race- just believing something does not make it real.
All religions are split into different sub cults- each one claiming their brand is the right one- and the others are wrong. Christianity, for example, has lots of sects including Catholics, Protestants, Anglicans and many more. Arguably the worst one is Catholics which make up more than 50% of Christians. Anyone that worships Jesus is a Christian, so do not try to think for a moment that Catholics are not Christians.
Even Israelites (the Jews) who were told in most of the old Testament in the Bible - that they are God's chosen people are smart enough in the 21st century to realise it is BS. They also do not accept Jesus who is Jewish as their saviour.
The religious rednecks around the world say Trump as their Messiah.
Primitive fool...
SHsharkbok
Captain23,216 posts
SHsharkbokCaptain23,216 posts
29 Dec 2019, 23:35#12
@Draad,
Well, at least I am happy to concede that if there was heaven with a select criteria, it is the best people that would go to heaven. People from all religions or belief systems that are good people e.g. the good Samaritan Parable in the Bible where a non-Christian will go to heaven according to Jesus.
I know that there are better people from all religions/non-religions that I am. This more than anything proves that a belief of only one religion going to heaven is bullshit (e.g. Only Islam, or only Christians- or certain Christians etc, etc).
I can't stand one religion claiming there are the only people going to heaven. I could accept that people from any religion who are better people would go to heaven if it did potentially exist.
If an Islam person said that you must convert to Islam to go to "their" heaven - it is nonsense obviously. Religions which share more similarities than differences. It is like saying if someone supports Manchester United they are good, and people that support Liverpool are bad people. It is simpleton stuff.
30 Dec 2019, 10:15#13
Ou Maaikie has Mornè, Fransie, Victor, etc. SB has religion.
30 Dec 2019, 12:03#15
“ As soon as you tell as a religious person that an afterlife would be based on morals, and not being part of some cult - it destroys them.... ”
I said that? I think you will find that I have quite the opposite view. I have often quoted the part in Revelations about the Lord knocking on the door.
I know what I believe and I believe in what I believe. I will defend my beliefs and if you or not prepared to hop on board, then so be it. I do not feel the need to be constantly trying to convert non-believers like yourself. You are a non-believer by choice who also chooses to attack believers at any opportunity in the same way that Beeno attacks non-believers.
You are no different than him. You have exact opposite points of view but you follow the exact same MO.
The idea of spreading the Gospel, IMO, has never been to stand on the street corners on a soapbox, Bible in hand, dragging non-believers to church kicking and screaming. The Lord has blessed you with the power of decision making and if you have made your decision, then you’ve made it. Importantly, to me in any case, once you have clearly indicated that you will not even consider changing your mind, then that’s it. Case over.
I have an opinion on Christianity and my faith and I’m not afraid to share it, but I will not try and force you into it. I, therefore, do not want you to try and force me out of it. As far as I can remember, I haven’t told anybody to convert to and follow my beliefs. I have only ever explained what I believe and why I do so.
30 Dec 2019, 13:57#17
“ Posted by: sharkbok (10328 posts)
Dec 30, 2019, 13:23
@Ceradyne, do you believe that only Christians go to heaven? A yes or no answer will suffice. ”
The oldest cross-examination trick in the book. Ask a question, demanding a yes or no answer when you know full well that it is not as simple as yes or no, and then start tapping your foot while waiting for an answer.
Sorry, I’m not playing this little game with someone who has already made up his mind. It is a waste of time and effort. You know it and I know it.
It is not a little game to me, not at this stage of my life in any case.