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Trump administration, the Ukraine, NATO and boots on the ground

Started by TheTraditionalist3 REPLIES442 VIEWS· 18 Feb 2025, 10:23
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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
18 Feb 2025, 10:23
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18 Feb 2025, 10:23#1

Russia does not want anything related to NATO in Ukraine yet troops are to be deployed to ensure security. The Trump administration has it all thought already. While they demand european nations to ramp up their contribution to NATO to a whooping 5 per cent of GDP, they want European countries to deploy troops in Ukraine outside NATO. European nations will have to upkeep two types of troops: NATO troops and non NATO troops to be deployed on the ukrainian hot spot. In the meantime, no US troops will be officially deployed in the Ukraine (of course covert ops forces will be massively deployed) It is very funny, european nations's tribute to NATO is going to increase and european nations will have to foot extral bills to deploy out of the NATO system of alliance, meaning that if they get attacked in the Ukraine, no NATO nations may be called to the rescue automatically since it will not be an attack on NATO troops. It is very perverted. It is another way to strengthen the leash put on European nations. In case of Russia attacks, they will have to beg for support from NATO. On the other hand, the US will work on antagonizing Russia so that Russia feel like targeting european nations. An easy way to force a wedge between Europe and Russia, as the US do not want Germany and Russia to get closer. Since Germany's army is not yet ready, the main contributors will be England and France, which is going to give them leverage over Germany.


Fun times in liberal land.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
18 Feb 2025, 12:16
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18 Feb 2025, 12:16#2

Its Ukraine, not the Ukraine.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Feb 2025, 13:25
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18 Feb 2025, 13:25#3

I am nt sure about the above. What is true si that what is left of NATO when becoming invovled is that they have no rtoops to spare for such a meaningful operation without USA and Turkish invovlement and if that is not the case -Italy wil also efuse tos end troops - since they also wants t he war ended , The problem is that the Irtalians distrust te US Army command since they had troops in Afghanistn ad the way the USA left caused uprorars in Germany, the Netherlands nd Italy. - so teyw oudl a guarntees frm the USA - meaning he USA will laso have o have troops on the ground troops.


Bessent went to Ukraine not to deal with the epace tlks - but to deal with methods of recnstrction in Ukraine. The USAwants to make sure that the money raised from the minreals are used for reconstruc purpsoes and that si where the money in fact will be spent under UA supeision and also NATO supervision. The leel of cirrupion makes since 1991 the most cprupt country in Europe and if the USA help Ukraine with mining of minerals the uSA wants tos ee hat Ukraine h at least ome resources to invetin reconstruction to be udertaken for th benefot of the Urkaine people and not the ruling elite,




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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
18 Feb 2025, 14:27
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18 Feb 2025, 14:27#4

"Its Ukraine, not the Ukraine."


Is that the only mistake you find in that nonsense?

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