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Trump disappoints.

Started by generaltit37 REPLIES1,562 VIEWS· 12 Apr 2017, 16:15
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generaltitPro3,164 posts
12 Apr 2017, 16:15
#1
12 Apr 2017, 16:15#1
Goes back on his election slogan...fix USA first but now risks a war with Russia because of his own emotions because his wife is expecting a baby and suddenly feels sorry for the suffering of women and children in Syria...ofcourse we all do but the clown should realise a nuclear confrontation with Russia would effect countless thousands even millions with far worse devastating effects. Hypocrisy and double standards.

This shows weakness...

What a bunch of fools and hypocrites...USA has numerous military bases in Europe including those camped just outside, ie Romania and Poland...Putin has 2 on the borders of the old Soviet states and one in the middle east. Hypocrits, hypocrits.

Never liked or trusted the man but was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt because that evil lying bitch was even worst than the soft and weak Obama.

Putin won't back down that's for sure, he's tried to reach out but is now had a guts full of BS and double standards.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Apr 2017, 20:14
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13 Apr 2017, 20:14#2
No double standards, there are international treaties against chemical weapons going all the way back to address the atrociities in the trenches in WW1. Chemical weapons are unacceptable and there seems to be no doubt they were used by Russia's ally. . If you had any decency you would condemn their use rather than bleat about a needed and measured response.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
14 Apr 2017, 07:19
#3
14 Apr 2017, 07:19#3
 If you had any decency you would condemn their use rather than bleat about a needed and measured response.
Therein lies the problem, the holier than thou sanctimonious Bore has a blind spot to anything Russian and the murderous thug, Putin.
There's a stench to the hypocrisy veiled as a Christian.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Apr 2017, 15:43
#4
14 Apr 2017, 15:43#4
The Russians have a great cultural, athletic and scientific heritage....hijacked by liars and cheats. Those images were unacceptable, and if they had prior knowledge about that attack shame on them.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
15 Apr 2017, 03:18
#5
15 Apr 2017, 03:18#5
 Still no response from the backstabbing fake Christian, he'll only return after his had a dop or two.....a yellow belly coward who confuses strength of character with being a murderous thug.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Apr 2017, 00:19
#6
16 Apr 2017, 00:19#6
Actually I prefer chaballs when he is drunk.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
18 Apr 2017, 21:44
#7
18 Apr 2017, 21:44#7
 Well, actually America attacked a foreign country without UN Security Council clearance...in contravention of international law...according to a radio expert anyway....it all looks like showmanship anyway.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
19 Apr 2017, 01:32
#8
19 Apr 2017, 01:32#8
 Draad, thought we were on topic about the use of chemical weapons?
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ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
19 Apr 2017, 01:52
#9
19 Apr 2017, 01:52#9
 "Chemical weapons are unacceptable and there seems to be no doubt they were used by Russia's ally."

yeah, chemical weapons are unacceptable,.... but there's not a single evidence that they were used by the Syrian army,..... not a single evidence

even in the case there were evidences, the USA are no one to decide unilaterally to bomb another country because of it,.... the USA are by far the top producer in the world, the top seller (they sold chemical weapons to Sadam Hussein to gas the kurds, e.g.) and US governments are by very far the ones who have used them more

but there's not a single evidence pointing to its use by the Syrian government,... Theodor Postol, Professor emeritus at MIT , a former science adviser to U.S. Navy command and missile expert, has analyzed the “evidence” the White House presented, the "intelligence report",... and as he states:

"I have reviewed the document carefully, and I believe it can be shown, without doubt, that the document does not provide any evidence whatsoever that the US government has concrete knowledge that the government of Syria was the source of the chemical attack in Khan Shaykhun"

"
In fact, a main piece of evidence that is cited in the document points to an attack that was executed by individuals on the ground, not from an aircraft, on the morning of April 4."

"The only undisputable facts stated in the White House report is the claim that a chemical attack using nerve agent occurred in Khan Shaykhun, Syria on that morning. Although the White House statement repeats this point in many places within its report, the report contains absolutely no evidence that this attack was the result of a munition being dropped from an aircraft. In fact, the report contains absolutely no evidence that would indicate who was the perpetrator of this atrocity."

you can read the complete report from the MIT professor explaining the above sentences in:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_Vs2rjE9TdwR2F3NFFVWDExMnc/view

apart from this report from an expert completely debunking the White House "intelligence report":

"The Trump White House published three and a half pages of accusations against the governments of Syria and Russia. These are simple white pages with no header or footer, no date, no classification or declassification marks, no issuing agency and no signatures. It is indiscernible who has written them.

U.S. media call this a Declassified U.S. Report on Chemical Weapons Attack. It is no such thing.

It starts with:

"The United States is confident that the Syrian government conducted a chemical weapon attack, …"

The U.S. (who exactly is that?) “is confident”, it does not “know”, it does not have “proof” – it is just “confident”.


(...)


"That “intelligence community assessment” chapter title is likely already a false claim. Even a fast tracked, preliminary National Intelligence Assessment, for which all seventeen U.S. intelligence agencies must be heard, takes at least two to three weeks to create. A “long track” full assessment takes two month or more. These are official documents issued by the Director of National Intelligence. The summary assessment the White House releases has no such heritage. It is likely a well massaged fast write up of some flunky in the National Security Council. The release was backgrounded by dubious statements of an anonymous “Senior Administration Officials” (not by “Intelligence Officials” as has been the case on other such issues.)


The claimed assessment starts with definitely wrong or at least very misleading point:

"We assess that Damascus launched this chemical attack in response to an opposition offensive in Hama province that threatened key infrastructure."


The Hama offensive had failed two weeks ago. Since then the Syrian army has regained all areas the al-Qaeda “opposition” had captured during the first few days. (Al-Qaeda in Syria renamed itself several times and now calls itself “Jabhat Fateh Al-Sham”.) Key infrastructure had never been seriously threatened by it. Over 2,000 al-Qaeda fighters were killed in the endeavor.


Peto Lucem, a well known and reliable media source for accurate maps of the war on Syria, posted on March 31, four days before the chemical incident:

Peto Lucem @PetoLucem

NEW MAP: “Rebel” frontline in #Hama is collapsing, #SAA reverses most #AlQaeda gains made in first days of their failed offensive. #Syria



The attack in Hama had already failed days before the chemical incident in Khan Shaykhun happened. Khan Shaykhun is not on the front line. The incident and the failed al-Qaeda attack in Hama can not possibly be related. It makes no sense at all to launch a militarily useless incident in a place far away “in response” to a defeat of the enemy elsewhere – this in a moment where the global political and military situation had turned in favor of the Syrian government. (The Defense Intelligence Agency surely never signed off on such an illogical claim.)


The following paragraphs of the released paper reveal that the assessment is largely based on a “significant body” of “open source reporting” which “indicates” this or that. This means that the White House relied on pictures and videos posted by people who are allowed to operate freely in the al-Qaeda ruled Khan Shaykhun. (Khan Shaikhun had been in the hands of an Islamic State associated group Liwa Al-Aqsa until mid February. The group moved out after fighting al-Qaeda and after slaughtering some 150 of its fighters. Al-Qaeda since moved in and now rules the town and surrounding areas.)


Several of the released video were introduced and commented by Dr. Shajul Islam who has been removed from the British medical registry and had been indicted in the UK for his role in kidnapping “western” journalists in Syria. He fled back to Syria. One of the journalists kidnapped with the help of Dr. Shajul Islam, James Foley, was later murdered on camera by the Islamic State.  The videos the “doctor” distributed of “rescue” of casualties of the chemical incidents were not of real emergencies but staged."

(...)

source: http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/white-house-intelligence-assessment-is-no-such-thing-but-shows-support-for-al-qaeda.html

"Why would President Assad, supported by Russia, scoring victory after victory against ISIS, moving closer to peace negotiations, suddenly risk all his gains by dropping sarin gas on his own people?

In an interview with Scott Horton, ex-CIA officer Philip Giraldi states that his intelligence and military sources indicate Assad didn’t attack his own people with poison gas.

Ex-CIA officer Ray McGovern states that his military sources report an Assad air strike did hit a chemical plant, and the fallout killed people, but the attack was not planned for that purpose. There was no knowledge the chemicals were lethal.

http://www.activistpost.com/2017/04/top-ten-reasons-doubt-official-story-assad-poison-gas-attack.html?utm_source=Activist+Post+Subscribers&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=c578b348f4-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_term=0_b0c7fb76bd-c578b348f4-388138173

Trvmp knew all this, refused to begin an inquiry, and comitted an act of war against a sovereign state,... in just 2 months time this clown has turn 180º the foreign policy he promised before the elections,.... he established a new record for the US administrations, in 2 months time he bombed 2 countries, Syria and Yemen, and sent the navy and threatened a third,.... this fool is very dangerous
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
19 Apr 2017, 02:33
#10
19 Apr 2017, 02:33#10
 mate, you've stuffed the margins.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Apr 2017, 06:15
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19 Apr 2017, 06:15#11
If it's so hard to believe Syria used chemical weapons.... how do you explain Russia's urgent brokering of a deal to rid Syria of it's chemical weapons. It was a necessary response by the civilized world. . The bigger problem is the lunatic in North Korea who has 20 nuclear bombs and is trying to get a way to deliver them, best case from one of his 77 submarines, which would make no coastal city in the world immune.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
20 Apr 2017, 00:09
#12
20 Apr 2017, 00:09#12
 With all it's faults what would the world be without the USA? I guess you can fancy China or Russia as being numero uno but do we honestly believe that way the world would be a better place?
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Apr 2017, 11:38
#13
20 Apr 2017, 11:38#13
Trump is doing a wonderful job. He sent a great message to Assad without getting involved in regime change.Kudos also to Trump for his dealings with China. China are key to finding a peaceful resolution and it appears that trump now has N Korea pretty isolated. if this fails its war as N Korea cannot be allowed to threaten countries including the USA with nuclear weapons.What a mess the muslim traitor Hussein Obummer has left Trump. But thank God for a smart courageous leader like Trum*p. He has a big job getting the world back on track!
I posted a great clip where Hannity summarizes the achievements of Trumps first 80 days I think it was. Its incredible what he has achieved thus far. With Obummer care sorted and the tax reform done T*rump s heading for huge wins in 2018 and a landslide in 2020. His approval climbed 8 points in a Rasmussen poll over the last 2 weeks but obviously the fake polls understate this by some 15% or so.
Fools will be fools and the gullible morons sucking up the globalist MSM propaganda are looking more foolish by the day. The MSM credibility ratings are at an all time low and CNN  propping up the bottom of the log! Very few believe these clowns anymore. BwahhahahahahahahahahaThe LORD Jesus Christ remains the only answer and one awaits HIS return as only that can ultimately save mankind. In the meantime the globalists/illuminati/Bilderbergers will do all they can to enslave mankind and ultimately bring in their Anti Christ to rule the world. Those who understand the scriptures will understand this. Those who don't will run after anti christ. They will even go as far as supporting Crooked Hilalry and ignore the 58 million American children murdered via Planned parenthood. (Never mind all the numerous other criminal and anti American activities etc)
Poor dense denise has a mind so frame by  the spirit of anti-christ he is in deep, deep darkness. One fears for him!  But very strangely some saying they believe the scriptures are so very ignorant of what they say and have no idea that Satan is leading them by their globalist noses!! That is sad but fortunately the vast majority of Christians in the USA at least recognized the threat and voted accordingly. 
Keep an eye on the important French presidential elections. Marine Le Pen is the only hope. She has very rightly said France is being over run. She criticizes the globalist , again correctly, saying multiculturalism results in multi conflict society. So obviously true. France is for the french people says Marine. Quite right marine and I wish you Godspeed.
Lastly I will try and find a clip where General Kelly Homeland Secretary says a]America is under attack. Terrorist threat in all 50 states.  Thankfully Kelly and Sessions under the leadership of Trump are cracking down very hard on illegal immigration, criminal gangs and those awful sanctuary cities - all the consequence of the disastrous open borders policies going on for the last five decades or so. This too is all coming out into the light thanks to TRUM*PTRUMP ARRIVED IN THE NICK OF TIME BUT HAS THE INCREDIBLE WELL RESOURCED GLOBALISTS TO DEAL WITH AND IMMENSE PROBLEMS AT HOME AND ABROAD. BUT IF ANYBODY CALL PULL THINGS RIGHT IT IS TRUMP. 


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Apr 2017, 11:49
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20 Apr 2017, 11:49#14
As for Russia. I think Trum*p will eventually strike a deal with Putin. Notice however how much pressure Trumps moves have put on Putin. Its called the art of the deal. His dealing with China have been a master class. But wooooosh it all goes over ou dense denise's empty head. All he can do is blurt out his anti Christian drivel. 
Man dense you are sounding like that raving lunatic Christopher Hitchens. I had an unusual experience listening to him one day. I l felt a great fear and sadness for him. It was a very powerful and horrible feeling to be looking at a man so obviously choosing Hell as his destination and ranting and raving against God! He was so obviously lost and determined to remain so despite knowing about the truth. You too denise are lost and don't even know it! Dense denise though makes my good friend rooitwitterbug look like a Saint. HahhahahahahahaRooitwit how fortunate you are! 
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generaltitPro3,164 posts
20 Apr 2017, 13:03
#15
20 Apr 2017, 13:03#15


Yeah, Dense is totally clueless and must be one of the thickest posters here and there are a few here ..how did this birdbrain dimwit ever get through customs...lolz

Is this really a true photo of Denny, Rooiaas ? it's quite uncanny, I imagined him to look something like this but not quite so ugly....how tragic.


MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Apr 2017, 01:22
#16
21 Apr 2017, 01:22#16
HasBeen stop being a fool man, denny is supporting the US on this issue.....if you want to vomit rubbish at least read the other man's posts. As for you Chaballs ....you old chap are a cringeworthy Urinal suck up.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Apr 2017, 05:28
#17
21 Apr 2017, 05:28#17
And in the meantime France says within days it plans to release conclusive evidence that Syria did use gas. . 'The French foreign minister has said that France's intelligence services have evidence that the Syrian government carried out the alleged chemical weapons attack on a rebel village earlier this month. "There is an investigation underway... it's a question of days and we will provide proof that the regime carried out these strikes," Jean-Marc Ayrault told LCP television on Wednesday. The suspected attack on Khan Sheikhun which killed 86 was found by British and Turkish scientists to have involved both sarin - a nerve gas - and chlorine. ' . That from The Independent. .
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Apr 2017, 10:55
#18
21 Apr 2017, 10:55#18
Still no response from the backstabbing fake Christian, he'll only return after his had a dop or two.....a yellow belly coward who confuses strength of character with being a murderous thug. Per dense denise
Dr Moz stuff dense denise. He is an imbecile of note. 
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
21 Apr 2017, 11:58
#19
21 Apr 2017, 11:58#19
 you old chap are a cringeworthy Urinal suck up.
Exactly right.....that said it's clear who's side Imam Beeno is on.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Apr 2017, 20:14
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21 Apr 2017, 20:14#20
 Iman Beeno. Bwahahahahhaha show how confused poor dense denise is! 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Apr 2017, 01:15
#21
22 Apr 2017, 01:15#21
On the contrary HasBeen, we have all been posting together for years. Denny is an honorable man. The fact that we don't always agree doesn't make the other guy an imbecile. Chaballs on the other hand is a moron.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
22 Apr 2017, 12:30
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22 Apr 2017, 12:30#22
 Charredballs.

If you think plagiarizing your new hero's past efforts to put me down has done me damage then you are in for a rude shock. Here's the heads-up, if you're going to have a shot at me, be original, don't copy the ass-hole who kakked in your face, that way I'd have some respect for you. I knew you were pathetic and that you are a phoney Christian, I just didn't realise how deep your apathy had plummeted.
As for your Christianity.....that's just BS...you're a backstabber and an unashamed  UrineRooi suck-up going by your above posting.
Does n't the Bible have a word on loving your enemy? Hmmmm?...didn't take much for you to toss that one down the kitchen sink Huh?
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Apr 2017, 15:05
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22 Apr 2017, 15:05#23
 Nope Moz this odious wretch was calling me alunatic even when we were supposed to be cyber friends. His conduct leaves much to be desired and his ideas are as wareped as - well you guessed it warped DUD Dense denise is far worse than rooitwit in my book. At least rooitwit has a sense of humour even if he needs constant guidance from people in the know like me!
AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
22 Apr 2017, 16:09
#24
22 Apr 2017, 16:09#24
Just a reminder folks that if the previous President and his sidekicks did their job properly we would not be in this situation now.
They back peddled, lied and now we are saddled with a major issue.
Syria, Libya, North Korea and that deal of all deals with Iran will go down in history as a major disaster for all mankind.
Too late for tears I guess.
But thankfully the DONALD is now in charge.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Apr 2017, 17:40
#25
22 Apr 2017, 17:40#25
 Well said AJ but it goes much further. Obummer needs to be tried for treason. He is a muslim traitor.
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generaltitPro3,164 posts
22 Apr 2017, 19:14
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22 Apr 2017, 19:14#26

Nooit argumenteer met dom mense, hulle sal jy sleep af na hulle vlak en dan klop jy met ervaring.

 

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Backstabber,urinal suck up...BS I never side with the undeserving commenter and for once Rooiaas was right...it does not matter who it is...only a dead fish goes with the flow! ..you were clearly out of line and your drunken buddies at the golf course insulting a Hispanic girl...get a life and yes I do know Hispanic people...I have a Cuban friend and visited Argentina, Spain and met Mexicans in the USA...I like them too.

I once thought you a decent guy with some refinement and intelligence but you like DT disappoints...never disliked Denny either until he started frothing at the mouth about a country and leader he has absolutely no clue about...he swallows media reports and propaganda like those klipvis at Baileys Cottage that swallow red bait for galjeon and steenbras...clever fish know the difference.


The only issue I had was DT reneged and I find that distasteful.


PS Well done Saders...I told you gamblers way back that they were a good bet at 6-1 to win the overall Super series...poor Beeno tried to arrange another tennis get together and conference...

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 Apr 2017, 08:44
#27
23 Apr 2017, 08:44#27
 never disliked Denny either until he started frothing at the mouth about a country and leader he has absolutely no clue about...he swallows media reports and propaganda like those klipvis at Baileys Cottage that swallow red bait for galjeon and steenbras...clever fish know the difference.
Good point Seb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But of course you stumble badly regarding the Cruistie match as there I was supporting my team to the hilt. 
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
25 Apr 2017, 12:00
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25 Apr 2017, 12:00#28
Listen, you did an Et tu, Brute? on me mate, Mozart...end of....and I have never bad mouthed the Russian people, you're a despicable liar, I have and will however, continue to call Putin a murderous thug. Clean up your act, moron. And I make no apology for bad mouthing your so-called strongman, Putin.

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
25 Apr 2017, 20:28
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25 Apr 2017, 20:28#29
Dense, did you see my question to you on this thread?
Instead of mouthing off at everyone, try to be a man for once in your sad and pathetic life and answer a simple a) or b) question.
Seriously, a simple one word answer is all that is required . . . unless you're too gutless of course!
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Apr 2017, 02:54
#30
28 Apr 2017, 02:54#30
And in the meantime French scientists confirm the gas used was identical to the gas Assad used on prior occasions......decent men don't condone innocent children being gassed Chaballs, so spare me your fake outrage,
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
28 Apr 2017, 03:02
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28 Apr 2017, 03:02#31
 I know we say a lot of bad things about each other for a variety of reasons but I must say that Charredballs has exposed himself as a phoney, a fake and a most sickening character.....I'll even go as far as saying that he's more pathetic than UrineRooi if that's humanly possible.
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
29 Apr 2017, 02:22
#32
29 Apr 2017, 02:22#32
 Just a reminder folks that if the previous President and his sidekicks did their job properly we would not be in this situation now.
If that is the true then I see no reason why Tr.ump with a majority in both houses cannot fix the so-called problems. Blaming past administrations is an age old political decoy which will not cut it in the long term.
AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
29 Apr 2017, 18:37
#33
29 Apr 2017, 18:37#33
Perhaps u should read up a bit about how the Congress and Senate operate.
Irrespective if u have a majority or not the Congress can pass what they wish but in the Senate, they require 60 votes to make it pass.
Now the Republicans have 54 and the Snow Flakes have 46....now that is an issue to get the required 60 votes in the Senate.
Even if u walked on water it is practically impossible to get anything passed under that type of majority.
Basic arithmetic is all that is required prior to posting silly remarks such as a certain poster has.
Blinded by true facts continually.
Go DONALD. 
AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
29 Apr 2017, 19:24
#34
29 Apr 2017, 19:24#34
Also if u recall Osama Obama had a majority as well when elected plus he had those two winners (Dim Wit Poly-Congress and No Wit Reid -Senate) to champion his agenda and we all know what happened.
They lost the election.They gave the US folks a health care system that they cannot afford.They caved into Iran.They lied about Benghazi.They allowed the Arab spring to fester and change Europe forever.They drew a Red line about chemical use in Syria and that Red became a Yellow line.They spied on friendly nations ie. Germany, Israel, UK and more.They created a war hero out of a deserter.They repeatedly lied to both the Congress and Senate committees.They allowed a military low life traitor to avoid the death sentence.They created Sanctuary cities to circumvent USA law.They issued arms to terrorists which ended up killing American warriors.They lost over 1,000 house and Senate state seats.They used the IRS to become a political mole and operative.They incited race hatred and allowed it to raise its ugly head.Thet spent millions trying to influence the elections in Israel and now have an issue with what the Russians are reported to have done to them. They lied, lied and still doing it.
Basically, they FUed everything except the Mosques and M'Donalds.Now it's time to fix things, not FU everything.
Get it! 






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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
02 May 2017, 01:45
#35
02 May 2017, 01:45#35
 "Get it"
I'll tell you what I get.....everytime your classless hero falls on his fat face he opens up the blame game....yep, he sticks out his fat finger and blames his predecessors, eg he recently blamed Obama, Bush and Clinton for the problem he's having with North Korea.
So go ahead and swallow his BS.....I'm not. Make a America great again was just an election slogan, nothing would have changed in four years time....not with Bozo and his family in charge.

AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
02 May 2017, 17:00
#36
02 May 2017, 17:00#36
Time will tell and remember time will also allow healing to take place.  
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
03 May 2017, 02:32
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03 May 2017, 02:32#37
 I agree time will tell and I'll be the first to sing his praises but I wouldn't get my hopes up about healing the divisions if I were you, not if you have a clown who suffers from foot and mouth disease who cannot help himself uttering the very things that divides the nation.
And just as a footnote, I don't favour one party over another, I've never been a party person although I recognize it's the only way it can work as a government.
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
03 May 2017, 12:56
#38
03 May 2017, 12:56#38
"I've never been a party person . . ."

Now that I find easy to believe . . . it's probably because you never get invited to any!

LMAO!
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