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Trump Gives Ukraine 10-12 Days to Agree Ceasefire

Started by sharkbok19 REPLIES531 VIEWS· 29 Jul 2025, 13:57
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sharkbokCaptain20,097 posts
29 Jul 2025, 13:57
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29 Jul 2025, 13:57#1

I dont like Trump, but I must admit he is upping the ante of this war. Now that the tariff wars have mostly been resolved, this allows Trump room to manoeuvre with secondary sanctions.


The Biden/Europe game plan of just giving Ukraine enough weapons to slow the Russian attack has not worked.


With Trump at the helm, we are either going to have a solution soon or WWW3.

We can't drag sanctions on for ages, rather go full throttle for a short period of time and choke the Russian Bear.

Russia will fear Trump, not just because he has the strongest military in the world, but because he is unhinged, volatile and unpredictable. He also can't be seen to look weak on social media - and will never back down in a "My daddy is bigger than your Daddy" argument.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Jul 2025, 14:30
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29 Jul 2025, 14:30#2

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The ultimatum was given to Russia - not Ukraine


Putin knows what is coming his way closing down the Baltic See blocking off all Russian Trade, Closing th Dardanells anf blocking off Rusian trade. Same for the Person Gulf for use and there goes 90# of Russian foreign trade,


Big mistake on the part of Putin. He should know by now that when Trump says somehing that is exactly what will be done. NO more shit in the WH. .

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
29 Jul 2025, 14:46
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29 Jul 2025, 14:46#3

Well, if there is one thing nobody can blame Trump for, and that is rushing to judgement and doing something spontaneously or recklessly against Russia, but the down side to that would have been the extra loss of lives on both sides of the border.

Russia will certainly feel the pressure of these extra sanctions coming into effect soon, and quite frankly, the sooner the better, and I believe it is something that Trump could have done earlier to possibly speed up a resolution to this war already, but whatever way this goes, Trump has given Putin every other opportunity to end this war already.

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sharkbokCaptain20,097 posts
29 Jul 2025, 14:54
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29 Jul 2025, 14:54#4

Ha, Ha - A CleverMike moment.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
30 Jul 2025, 05:22
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30 Jul 2025, 05:22#5

America's greatness will now always be described in the past tense.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Jul 2025, 06:48
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30 Jul 2025, 06:48#6

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That s a joke one can only laugh at, Obama fucked up royally in every foreign issue he was involved in. When Syria was using poison gas against its own people - Obama said that Syria must stop it and he used the term "red line in the sand" in warning Syria not to do it again - and they just ignored it and Obama did nothing about it, So when Trump became Presidet the Syrians did the same and got hit hard as a result,


When ISIS captured Northern Syria and attacked Iraq moving rapidly to conquer Baghdad and take over the whole of Iraq. Obama sent in 200 trainers to train the Iraq army and not get invovled in actual battle - which was total BS and the Iraqi army was keeping retreating. When Trump became President he ordered the US Army back into Syria and witin three months ISIS was wiped out in both Iraq and Northern Syria, But then the media went into meltdown when Trump had the leader of ISIS and had Solemaine - the butcher of Teheran - killed in Iraq - as if Trump had the Archangel Gabriel killed and said how good a family man Solemeine was and leaving out the fact that he was in charge of the Houthis in Yemen , of Hezbollah and Hamas and the Iranian troops in Syria,


While Biden was President Egypt, Saudi-Arabia and the UAE joined BRICS because they feared that the USA are more invovled with the terrorist subsidiaries sponsored by Iran than they were in protecting their allies in the Middle East and hope membership of BRICS will protect them against Iran attacks - when Trump took over they made sure they get back into the USA protection situation.


The World under Biden had zero foreign respect and was a key to the instability worldwide on a level unheard of since WW2.


I mentioned a few examples only, there are at least ten others where the USA lost the respect of leaders all over the world. Part of the reason was the USDF started collapsing and corruption took over and add further to the drastically weakened USA Army, That while the USA was Govened by anybody with excess to the auto-pen. Biden did not know what was going on in the world and even the EU leaders knew he was supershit and treated him with disdain. An example was Biden was not invited to neither the funeral of Queen Elizabeth and the crowning of King Charles, but allowed to send his wife to represent the USA. By then he was a total mental disaster and he fucked up royally in whatever he did.


So talking about loss of respect was eminent under Obama and Biden and now the whole situation changed for a more ordered and stable world under Trump. The contribution to wipe out wars is one thing - and acting on that is hard - but signs are that most countries who miss-behaved under Obama and Biden - but are back in he USA ally situation.


Start studying what is really the case worldwide and you would find that as per normal TDS took over in your case and you kept writing batshit on site,


When Trump wanted to stop North Korea from developing rocket and nuclear arms - they got the message quickly and for two years desisted from testing nuclear tests and rocket tests, Days after Biden took over the tests restarted and never stopped since then.


When Biden was President China regularly sent planes into Taiwan air space. No more when Trump became President, and no more interference in shipping just off the Tawiwan coast.


So let me quote one example of what the foreign policies of Obama and Biden entailed:-


"Biden and Obama can’t undo the terrible harm they did as president, the crushing inflation, the surging border or the feckless and facile foreign policy disasters." .


Why can that be the case both Obama and Biden was corrupt and protected by the Justice Department and the FBI and should never have been in the positions they held, Corruption involved foreign govenments and companies that is part of the Chinese and Iran set-ups, The most despicable bastards who ever was President of the USA, Both Russia, China and Iran has proof of corruption involved and how much money was looted by the US Presidents and crooks in their employ - and the foreign leaders concerned know that especially Clnton, Obama and Biden was involved in and knew that they cannot dare act against the countries that bribed them.





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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
30 Jul 2025, 18:25
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30 Jul 2025, 18:25#7

"America's greatness will now always be described in the past tense."


Depebds on your measure...

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
31 Jul 2025, 02:55
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31 Jul 2025, 02:55#8

Another laughable flip flop exercise..... make it 50 days, a week later naaaaah lets make it 10 or 12 oh hell no make it 10 days.....finally, that's it 10 days.

Anyone care to tell the Grumble Bum that Putin has no interest in making peace?......and that his only interest is to claim all of Ukraine as part of Russia?

Let's be honest, Trump mishandled negotiations from the start by pandering to Putin and aggressively belittling Zelensky in front of an international audience.


"You have no cards," he said—remember that? While true in a sense, it only emboldened Putin. The sound of high fives echoing through the Kremlin reverberated around the world.


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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
31 Jul 2025, 03:19
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31 Jul 2025, 03:19#9

Children look at sandbags covering the windows at a pre-school in Lviv, Ukraine. Photograph: Joe Raedle/Getty Images


With nearly 3,000 children injured or killed since the start of the war, experts call for bombing of civilian areas to be treated as a war crime

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Jul 2025, 11:52
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31 Jul 2025, 11:52#10

Lets be honest and stop talking shit Denny. Trump wanted the war to end asap - but Putin and Zelenskyy wanted it to continue. Trump alwas used diplomacy to try and solve problems before taking drastic action.against countries who misbehave,


You obviously believe that was the wrong approach and the USA should have sarted ful scale war against Russia - a particular problem since it would give China the opportunty to occupy Taiwan and Souh Korea, The next target Chinese target would be Australia - China is already doing naval exercises in the sea between Australia and New Zealand,


Another point is that Trump did not act on his own in the case of Russia, He was always consulting the NTO leaders and had their support for his actions. He realize that other than the USA and Turkey the NATO armies are totally useless in the case of a war and that the USA cannot expect any help from them. The countries with the strongest armies are -

  1. China
  2. USA
  3. Russia and
  4. India,


In the ME and Europe the Turks had the strongest army followed by Italy and Greece - the threat cased by Turkey against Greece and the totally unstable North Afica caused inceased army strength in those two countries, The other NATO countries are jokes in bad taste,


Trump with the assistance of the NATO leaders tried desperately to end the Ukraine War. On the Ukraine side the war was feeding corruption in both Ukraine and the USA - it became the most corrupt war since Viietnam - and it is costing the USA billions with nothing to show for all the money spent. Trump is in regular contact with the NATO countries leadership and all he relevant Governments are involved in stopping the war nobody - bar Biden - wanted.


It is likely that the sanctions now considered will unlike the Biden sanctions that was a joke in bad taste hit Russia hard, It is likely that Trump will close the White Sea, the Black Sea and the Baltic Sea and stop Russian ot other ships carrying Russian goods.and that any payment made to Russia in USA Dollars will be frozen. No more lapses in applying sanctions like happened under Biden.


So lets wait and see what happens over the next month, In the meantime Trump forced the NATO members to spend 5% of their GDP's on strengthening of their armies and try and build up usable amies in Europe, At the moment they have real shit as armies and that will in future create more stability in Europe and in the world in general


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sharkbokCaptain20,097 posts
31 Jul 2025, 12:31
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31 Jul 2025, 12:31#11

Russia is one of the strongest armies in the world, but can't defeat a country that is less than a third of its size.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
31 Jul 2025, 23:52
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31 Jul 2025, 23:52#12


Russia is one of the strongest armies in the world, but can't defeat a country that is less than a third of its size.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Aug 2025, 04:13
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01 Aug 2025, 04:13#13

Te USA ended up in an armistice with North Korea and no peace teaty - they fled fro Saugon and onn A fghanistan - both causing massive scandals, The USA has still troops in North Syria and Iraq - which are confined to their bases - wich are under regular attack of rebels and cannot dare moving out of the bases.


So far Ukrane lost 25% of its territory and is retreating on a virtual daily basis, Ukraine ahs a bigger population than Iraq, Afghnistan and Syria combined and the conduct of the Biden regime in particular near to destroy the US army and in the 6 months Trump was President the damage was lartgely corrected abd bot in panic fleeing of U S troops stopped - but in all thee territories the USA did not win the wars despite their involvement in war in Afghanistan for 21 years ad in Iraq for 23 years,


So is Ukrane winnng the War - and he aswer is no they are not, The Ukraine loses territory on a daily asi - so I wod nt make claims like the above - which showed total idiocy in the frst instance. Putin is now on an ultiatum for 10 ore das and if they do not agree to a ceasedire the SA will act against them and that wuk likely end the war,


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
01 Aug 2025, 04:56
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01 Aug 2025, 04:56#14

Wonders never cease.....apparently Trump told Medvedev to mind his tongue sending a firmer approach to a would be if he could be but more importantly is the belated difference in Trump towards Russia and Putin.

It's taken a while for the penny to drop but all gratitude should go towards his wife who apparently pointed out Putin's bullshit.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
01 Aug 2025, 08:35
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01 Aug 2025, 08:35#15

ouMaaik, I hope that you're around if&when Ukraine take back Crimea.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Aug 2025, 09:56
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01 Aug 2025, 09:56#16

You rally must be crazy.- Ukaine aahs nort enough soldiers to stop the daily advance of Russian troops and kraine wit virtually no Ukrainians living there is not going to be captured ever by Ukraine. World War 3 would erupt once anybody even try to capture the Crimea. Trump huimself knows it will not ahppen - but B D Ster like you believe otherwise,


What is clear is that you know bugger-all about what happened iro the Crimea since 1953 and especially in terms of he 1991 Constitution of Ukraine. In terms of the siad contitution discarded afte he famous coup in 2014 - when the Ukraine Constittion was discarded by the installed by the US Government in Ukraine - the situation ended. In terms of he 1991 Conmstitution the Crimea had its own Parliament with total control of inernal affairs as to Government of the Crimea, The Conmstitution also provided for the Ukraine Government leaing indefiniely the Russian fleeet bases in the Crimea. The Ukraine Army never had any bases in the Crimea.


Now you seem to think that Ukraine must take over a Government they ene ad constitutionally and create anotehr apartheid state wth te people of he Crimea having no say in their own Govenment, With 95% of the population being Russian pekers and Tartars with no real link to the Ukraine - you obviously beleve in the policy of the Ukraine Government to wipe out all Russian speaking people living in Eastern Ukraine and the Crimea through ethnc cleansing.


So I know enough about what really happened and th teh Ukraine army falling back every day in the battless in Eastern Ukraine - how he hell do you think the Ukrainians will be able to conquer the Crimea. Think o a minte before you write crap on site.


If you think the USA will ever get involved in WW3 in an effort to protect one of the worst and most corrupt Governments in Europe you must be smoking some real and very strong stuff feeding your lunacy.


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
01 Aug 2025, 10:01
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01 Aug 2025, 10:01#17

Mickey, it's blatantly obvious that your lunacy is not caused by 'smoking strong stuff'......not sure what the cause is but please let us know after your next check-up.


Tx.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Aug 2025, 23:39
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02 Aug 2025, 23:39#18

Denny


I fpolow facts as proven in documentation - whle you read fake media stories and then quote it as as factual. You still h ave no clue about hatwent wrong in ksaaine in 2014 funded by the Obama CIA which led to the discarding of the Ukrane cosntitution of Ukraine and resylted in the Civil War in Eastern Ukraine. You are also unaware of most facts pertaining to Uraine snce 2014 and how deep the corruption in Washing ton ran in both Ukaiine and the USA. In any event the main BS you are also unaware was the Obama and Clinton scheme that alleged there was a ly camaign linking Trun to be colluding with Putn n the 2016 election - which did not work out and ten bcame a means to udermine Trump in his first Presidency,


Newly declassified documents reveald that there was no collussion between Trump and Putin in the 2016 election and n since - so you became aware that your whole story about Ukraine is based on BS with a long string f corrut activiied invoving Biden, Clinton and a long string of Democrat politicians in .Ukraine and Russian corruption.

That made the useful tools of Putiin in the first case,


Before making statements of B S allegations like the one above were corrupt and criminal conmductand now they Demcrats is in deep shit, In essense it now came out that the FBI and FBI instrcuted by bama to submitt fake reprts and then handed conspiracy theories to te press leading to your usage of lies to justify your site contributions on Trmp and not the time ,for you to spread BD and lies up yo p fpget about .

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
03 Aug 2025, 08:36
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03 Aug 2025, 08:36#19

'You still h ave no clue about hatwent wrong in ksaaine...'


Correct, I have no idea about ksaaine...none whatsoever.

Can you enlighten me to where exactly it is located?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Aug 2025, 10:50
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03 Aug 2025, 10:50#20

Typing error corrected,

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