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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
22 May 2020, 00:31
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22 May 2020, 00:31#1

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Trump will lose popular vote in 2020, election model predictsA new national poll also shows the president trailing Joe Biden by double digits.President Trump, in the Cabinet Room this week.Brendan Smialowski / AFP - Getty ImagesMay 21, 2020, 11:49 PM NZST / Updated May 22, 2020, 12:14 AM NZSTBy Rebecca Shabad

WASHINGTON — As a result of the economic suffering from the coronavirus pandemic, a new election model forecasts President Donald Trump will lose the popular vote in November.

"An unemployment rate above its global financial crisis peak, household income nearly 6 percent below its pre-virus levels, and transitory deflation will make the economy a nearly insurmountable obstacle for Trump come November," Oxford Economics said on Wednesday, based on the firm’s state-based and national election models.

Before the coronavirus, Oxford Economics, which has a strong track record of predicting presidential elections, had forecast in the fall that Trump would win 55 percent of the popular vote. In April, as the coronavirus spread in the U.S., the model predicted that Trump would take only 43 percent of the popular vote in the 2020 presidential election, according to The Washington Post.

Trump trails Biden by 11 points among voters nationally

Trump won the Electoral College in 2016 while Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton took the popular vote by nearly 3 million ballots.

Joe Biden, the apparent 2020 Democratic presidential nominee, leads Trump by 11 percentage points in a new national Quinnipiac University poll, 50 percent to 39 percent.

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A similar survey conducted in April had Biden ahead by 8 points.

"What does the 11 point Biden lead tell us? At best for Team Trump, it says voter confidence in President Trump is shaky," Tim Malloy, Quinnipiac polling analyst, said. "At worst for them, as coronavirus cases rise, Trump's judgement is questioned — and November looms."

The poll surveyed 1,323 self-identified registered voters from May 14-18 and has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.7 percentage points.

Rebecca Shabad

Rebecca Shabad is a congressional reporter for NBC News, based in Washington.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 May 2020, 00:46
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22 May 2020, 00:46#2

Okay Blob I’ll take the other side of the bet....$1000 US  suit you?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 May 2020, 04:56
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22 May 2020, 04:56#3

The same crazy polls came out in 2016 and crooked Hillary lost.   BB I would not accept that $1 000 bet of Mozart if I were you.  

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
22 May 2020, 08:13
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22 May 2020, 08:13#4

Why would Blob or anyone bet at even money odds when the bookies are offering Bozo at 5/6 and Biden at 14/10?

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
22 May 2020, 08:40
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22 May 2020, 08:40#5

To beat Trump, one would need a competent alternative ... someone trust worthy ... someone who doesn't have a shady past.

I don't see anyone putting their hand up.

Trump may be a nut job ... but he has prospered the country like no other before him ... and like it or not, he is the best option available. 



 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
22 May 2020, 09:24
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22 May 2020, 09:24#6

Sounds like another entry on a long list of failed predictions that underestimate Trump and American people.

I've not checked but I'm gonna bet that NBC's reporting on the recently released Biden tapes has been scant at best and non existent at worst?

I'll bet that the anti-Trump mob on this site probably don't even know the tapes exist and have been out for a good few days already.

Perhaps it's time for some soul searching, no?

Trump who you don't like vs Sleepy Joe who is demonstrably corrupt.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
22 May 2020, 09:26
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22 May 2020, 09:26#7

CC 

I think Tulsi was that person. 

Problem is, she's too straight an arrow for the Dems. 

Incredible how they railroaded her.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 May 2020, 09:35
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22 May 2020, 09:35#8

CC

To lose the popular vote means nothing,    The fact is that California - where election crooking  means that in  2016 there were about 3,5 million dead voters voted and the Democrats raised them from the dead on voting day by using illegal migrants with falsified drivers licenses to vote in their places,   The situation was so bad that the Court after 2016 ordered California to clean up their voters role and remove the dead and missing voters from the role.   Not done to date at all.

An expansion of an old technique developed by the DP to enhance election fraud has been developed,  In states where the DP is in charge the DP in the past used a system of vote harvesting,  It meant that postal votes are given to their agents to collect votes and they can do so weeks after election day,    In  2018 in the San Diego  area on election day the DP was circa 250 000 votes short to win three House seeds,.  It took them 14 days after election day to found the 250 000 votes needed to win the 3 seats,    They now want to do the ordinary and make it much easier.   Send all voters on the role - alive, dead and missing -voter application forms to vote and  anybody can pick up the forms - fill it in and send the applications to the election office from where votes are then  issued to the DP agents to collect the votes,  Since there is no provision for any mechanism to properly confirm the identity of the voters they fill in the votes and count it.    Since they want  to prevent contraventions being discovered - most of the illegal voting is done after election day - because it is by then clear who have not been voting and whose votes can be utilized for election fraud.  In 2016 their were 1200 election fraud cases in 2018 even more.    

So total number of votes counts for nothing anyway,                                  

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
22 May 2020, 10:20
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22 May 2020, 10:20#9

Maybe so, Plum.

There are probably numerous candidates that are better suited to taking on Trump than the Shady Biden ... but sadly, straight shooters like Tulsi have been forced to make way for the Biden.

Why the democrats settled on him is beyond me.



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CeradynePro9,374 posts
23 May 2020, 11:24
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23 May 2020, 11:24#10


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 May 2020, 12:10
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23 May 2020, 12:10#11

Blob continues to sink ever lower. The blob thinks Biden is up double digits and Trump is going to lose based on the far left poll. 

He doubtless doesn't know that left wing Gallup Poll has Trump at an all time high of 49% and The Hill has Trump at 50 percent.

A CNN  poll which oversampled demonrats by 8%. showed Trump leading Biden in 15 battleground states by 7%.

Biden is now named in a case in the Ukraine as the person who tried to get Ukraine prosecutor Shokin fired to prevent the prosecutor investigating corrupt oil and gas company Burisma and wanted to interview Hunter Biden. The Senate now have an official investigation going on into Biden corruption into the  Bidens corruption in the Ukraine. Hopefully a similar investigation into Biden corruption into China will happen.

Biden just made a monumental blunder telling a black guy that he isn't black if he doesn't support him. The hatters past racist comment are being exposed by Candace Owen's including his praise of KKK  Gran Wizard Robert Burns. I posted the clip where Biden gave the eulogy at Byrds funeral some time ago. 

Hillary of course praised Robert Byrd as her beloved mentor. 

Biden is a corrupt lying senile scumbag. Only 54% of demonrats want him as their presidential pick. That number will decrease and its a question whether Biden will be nominee.  Who else have they got.

You will see the US economy improve in the third and 4th Quarters. 

Trump's biggest worry is massive voter fraud. 

I trust the oaks are enjoying all the revelations concerning the coup. Clowns like Blob, Redrooi and Redshark doubtless have no idea what is happening. 

As predicted by Beeno the lock downs are backfiring on demonrats governors big time. 

That traitor Fauci now doing another flip flop saying economy should open. The snake must be investigated. 

There is so much that has happened over the last few days. So much is missed. 





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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
23 May 2020, 12:29
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23 May 2020, 12:29#12

Bozo certainly deserves to lose this election. He is by some distance the worst and most incompetent US president of all time and normally it would be a big surprise if such a self-serving and deceitful buffoon wasn't a one-term failure . . . but sadly, he only has to beat a doddering old fool in Joe Biden. 

Biden may not be as corrupt as Bozo or as deceitful as Bozo, but from all available evidence, he is pretty close to being as stupid and as ignorant as Bozo. Seriously hard to believe that he's the best the Democrats could come up with but despite all that, it's looking like it could actually be a close race . . . something both candidates should feel a little embarrassed about.

I'll say this much though . . . if Bozo does manage to lose to a decrepit old half-wit with the credibility of a 3 dollar note, it will be the most humiliating and embarrassing loss by any president ever. Not just in the USA but by any world leader. 

Bozo is already regarded as the worst US president of all time and if you take into consideration the booming economy he inherited together with his disastrous foreign policy that has made him the laughing stock of the world; his survival of the impeachment sham when the cowardly Republican senators refused point blank to listen to the only person qualified to answer all the questions they were asking and his unbelievably inept and selfish handling of the Coronavirus pandemic then it's going to be very hard for anyone to be worse . . . but add a 2020 election loss to an aged bungling fool who barely knows what his own name is and Bozo will have cemented his place at the bottom of the pile forever! 

Oh and for those brainwashed and terminally stupid Trumpanzees who'd still like to pretend Bozo is not the worst US president of all time, take a look at the results of the 6th Siena College Research Institiute Presidential poll of 2018 here.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 May 2020, 12:38
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23 May 2020, 12:38#13

Hey Redrooi you are big on smears and lies but short on facts as usual.

Always remember plank you are the laughing stock of the board. Bwhahahahahaha. 

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
23 May 2020, 12:39
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23 May 2020, 12:39#14

Sorry, pasting that spreadsheet botched the margins so badly that I can't even edit that last post but if anyone's interested the full graph can be viewed here.

Edit: Managed to fix it. Back to normal.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
23 May 2020, 15:08
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23 May 2020, 15:08#15

So in this instance, messing up the margins had nothing to do with stupidity, lack of insight, lack of skills, shortsightedness, state of intoxication, etc, etc? 

Just checking. 

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
23 May 2020, 16:14
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23 May 2020, 16:14#16
Another question to me from Cowardunce?
LMAO!
You know the drill, chump and you know where to go.
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
23 May 2020, 16:25
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23 May 2020, 16:25#17

Hahahaha. Looks like I struck a nerve...... again. Over and out. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 May 2020, 16:32
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23 May 2020, 16:32#18

There is one thing that is amazing and that is why the worst and most corrupt US President in the history - Obama  leading the Mafia Gang operating from the White House - is not in jail yet,  

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 May 2020, 17:46
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23 May 2020, 17:46#19

Surprised some here are fooled by Tulsi's smile. Tulsi Gabbards is a firm supporter of Communist Bernie Sanders.

Redrooi goes down in flames again!


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 May 2020, 17:50
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23 May 2020, 17:50#20

Bye the way Plum saw an article mocking very fake news CNN  for not mentioning the spectacular Biden blunder re Not supporting him means you are not black. 

Bet they are very thin on the Ukraine Court case re Biden or the Senate investigation in respect of quid pro Joe. . 

The morons think they can hide all this but they fail and their credibility just keeps dropping. 

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
23 May 2020, 17:50
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23 May 2020, 17:50#21

The Trumpanzees would do well to check out all the different polls and ratings of the US presidents that I linked further up this thread.

The historians who study this stuff professionally and who do actual polls (rather than brainwashed half-wits making ignorant thumbsucks) generally have Barack Obama in the top 20 overall and among the top 5 since WW2.

By comparison, Bozo tends to be in the bottom 5 whichever poll you look at.

It's only the Trumpanzees who think Obama wasn't a good president and who think Bozo was anything but a disaster.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 May 2020, 17:56
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23 May 2020, 17:56#22

Doesn't have to anybody more as Trump won and all your outlandish predictions were shown to be false. Hahahaha poor old Redrooi. Talk about being a Jonah. 

Trump is proving to be the greatest American President ever. So many are saying this. Try as they may the demonrats and their snakes in the fake news media can't lay a glove on him. It's hilarious. Everything they try backfires in them! It's driving the loons ever more crazy!

Redrooi is a prime example! 

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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
23 May 2020, 18:36
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23 May 2020, 18:36#23
The only non-Americans that think Trump is a good president or even human, are the religious alt-right crew. 
If American is the first to invent a cure to the Coronavirus, Trump would probably prevent it being sold to overseas countries so he could get political points by saying America is the best, etc, etc, etc. In time he would rewrite history to say that he invented the cure . 

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
23 May 2020, 19:08
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23 May 2020, 19:08#24
"So many are saying this."
Well, according to reputable institutions that have been doing polls on US presidents for many years, many more are saying the exact opposite. Bozo is usually ranked between 40 and 45 in every category out of 45. Obama on the other hand is usu ally ranked 15th or higher.
Don't take my word for it, go check it out yourself . . . and (unless you're a dribbling helpless moron) you can link further to explanations on how they arrive at these numbers and the science behind it. All sounds pretty accurate to me.
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
23 May 2020, 19:44
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23 May 2020, 19:44#25

The only accurate polls are exit polls. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 May 2020, 19:55
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23 May 2020, 19:55#26

Given the amount of press bias Obama should be ranked 90 and Trump should be ranked 10. TDS a disease that effects every country.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
23 May 2020, 20:08
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23 May 2020, 20:08#27

"Obama should be ranked 90"

Uh-oh . . . looks like we have a Trumpanzee who is so ignorant, uneducated and stupid that he thinks there have been 90 US presidents.

LMAO!

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 May 2020, 20:13
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23 May 2020, 20:13#28

Waaaaaaaahahaha......Percentile .....look it up Dumbass. Haven’t I told you before not to use numbers? And now you look like an uneducated moron again.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 May 2020, 20:17
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23 May 2020, 20:17#29

Rooinek 

Yet Obama was corrupt and mist of his praise songs cane frim the media, shop desperately hided  his deficiencies,   Ge was weak as well,  When it was found that the Syrian Government used poison gas against the Syrian Rebels,  Obama threatened that if they do it again they would cross a red line and he would act against them,  The did it again and Obama chickened out,  

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
23 May 2020, 20:22
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23 May 2020, 20:22#30
"Given the amount of press bias Obama should be ranked 90 and Trump should be ranked 10"
Hilarious to see the deceitful and painfully stupid old fop trying to pretend "ranked" means something else!


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 May 2020, 23:19
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23 May 2020, 23:19#31

Actually it’s rather easy to demonstrate I was talking about percentiles. I said given the amount of ‘press bias’ Trump should be ranked 10 and Obama 90. That means given the press bias Obama would be seen as better than 90% of presidents and Trump better than 10% of Presidents.....totally consistent.


Now suppose I was referring  rankings....why I ask you with tears in my eyes .....would press bias produce a ranking of 10 for Trump? They would rank him 40 or worse. 


So my usage is logical,  while yours is painfully ignorant and opposite to what logic dictates . You simply don’t know what percentile rankings are.

Game, set and match again....how many more times do I have to destroy you?

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
24 May 2020, 09:19
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24 May 2020, 09:19#32
"Game, set and match again....how many more times do I have to destroy you?"
The day you do will be the first time, loser.
How many times do we have to repeat this same drill . . . you say something ignorant, deceitful or stupid; I then point out your ignorance, your deceit or your stupidity and you then launch into a defensive, paranoid and downright embarrassing explanation of how you didn't in fact make a dick of yourself when everyone can plainly see that you did . . . like on this very thread.
You're probably too stupid to realize it but your infantile little "game set and match" has become confirmation that you've been humiliated once again but you don't have the character or the courage to admit it. A bit like Bozo . . . as I've pointed out before.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
24 May 2020, 09:23
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24 May 2020, 09:23#33

Beeno,

Yeah, I did see Biden's latest idiocy.

What a tool.

The guy that was interviewing him is very good. I watch his stuff regularly.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
24 May 2020, 11:08
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24 May 2020, 11:08#34

@Plum. Not quite correct to call him a tool.

A tool is a useful item, most of the time. 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
24 May 2020, 11:23
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24 May 2020, 11:23#35

@Cera

Haha

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 May 2020, 00:36
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25 May 2020, 00:36#36

No explanation why Trump would be ranked 10 by the biased media, but an obstinate denial that it was a percentile ranking. I repeat .....game, set and match! Yet again!

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
25 May 2020, 06:39
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25 May 2020, 06:39#37

If you talk about a 90/10 scenario, or 50/50, it normally implies percentage. 

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